Limited Contraceptives=Abortion?

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
[/quote] Your “Christian” schtick is an abomination and a reproach to the God I love. You are a tool of Satan being used to defile the name and covenants of the God you both hate. I haven’t so much as uttered a syllable in your direction for a couple months at least, but when you attempt to associate yourself with my views on godly and honorable marriage, family and womanhood I will make it clear in no uncertain terms that your life is a blasphemous testimony to debaucherous demonic deception and should in not even the minutest way be confused with Christianity.

I couldn’t possibly care less what you make of that. I owe it to my Master and Savior to defend His honor when filth is smeared on His face. I reiterate once again. He has gifted you substantially and you could be a mighty weapon of righteousness in His hands Push. I have no control over what you believe, but I long to stand by your side in His service. I do. I would be first in line to embrace you as a fellow warrior, but you don’t even see man. You’re fighting for my enemy.

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Besides, outlawing abortion “except in cases of rape” wont result in less abortions, it’ll just result in more rape charges.[/quote]

So, you think that billions of woman would accuse their partner of rape rather than waiting 9 month to give birth to their children.

And we are still supposed to accept that you have more respect for women than pro-lifers do ?

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
[/quote] Your “Christian” schtick is an abomination and a reproach to the God I love. You are a tool of Satan being used to defile the name and covenants of the God you both hate. I haven’t so much as uttered a syllable in your direction for a couple months at least, but when you attempt to associate yourself with my views on godly and honorable marriage, family and womanhood I will make it clear in no uncertain terms that your life is a blasphemous testimony to debaucherous demonic deception and should in not even the minutest way be confused with Christianity.

I couldn’t possibly care less what you make of that. I owe it to my Master and Savior to defend His honor when filth is smeared on His face. I reiterate once again. He has gifted you substantially and you could be a mighty weapon of righteousness in His hands Push. I have no control over what you believe, but I long to stand by your side in His service. I do. I would be first in line to embrace you as a fellow warrior, but you don’t even see man. You’re fighting for my enemy.
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lol

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[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
[/quote] Your “Christian” schtick is an abomination and a reproach to the God I love. You are a tool of Satan being used to defile the name and covenants of the God you both hate. I haven’t so much as uttered a syllable in your direction for a couple months at least, but when you attempt to associate yourself with my views on godly and honorable marriage, family and womanhood I will make it clear in no uncertain terms that your life is a blasphemous testimony to debaucherous demonic deception and should in not even the minutest way be confused with Christianity.

I couldn’t possibly care less what you make of that. I owe it to my Master and Savior to defend His honor when filth is smeared on His face. I reiterate once again. He has gifted you substantially and you could be a mighty weapon of righteousness in His hands Push. I have no control over what you believe, but I long to stand by your side in His service. I do. I would be first in line to embrace you as a fellow warrior, but you don’t even see man. You’re fighting for my enemy.
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lol[/quote]

x2, gotta rememeber the line debaucherous demonic deception, will deploy it next time i am running amok!

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[quote]kamui wrote:

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Besides, outlawing abortion “except in cases of rape” wont result in less abortions, it’ll just result in more rape charges.[/quote]

So, you think that billions of woman would accuse their partner of rape rather than waiting 9 month to give birth to their children.

And we are still supposed to accept that you have more respect for women than pro-lifers do ?[/quote]

Not their partner, necessarily. They could just say they were raped by a stranger. They would probably be pressured, in some cases, to make up such a story.

And, anyway, actually having a case to determine if rape was involved would take so long as to result in a full term - so the courts wouldnt actually be able to investigate, or, all abortion would be outlawed by default.

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[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

If they’re not there to kill a baby what are they doing there? Testing new anesthesia techniques? When they poke that big nasty syringe and needle into the baby’s skull and plunge the potassium chloride into its tiny body and then vacuum out the body shredding it in the process what are they doing there? Filming a Hoover commercial?

No, Capped, they honest-to-gosh are there to kill a baby. There’s no other reason for everyone to show up.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

Wow, funny, because I never said that.

I never said an innocent human being doesn’t die. I never said the death was not the fault of the mother (and whoever performs the abortion). I never said the death wasnt deliberate.

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Well then, we are making progress.

Tell that, what you said above, to the other nincompoops on this thread, and anyone else for that matter, who concocts the preposterous rationalizations that it’s not really/fully human and/or the momma aint doin’ no wrong by prematurely and intentionally expelling The Thing from HER body.

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I said the POINT of abortion is not to deliberately take the life of an innocent human being. Yes, that happens but that is not the POINT of it.

Is that clarified properly?[/quote]

Then what is the POINT?[/quote]

The point is to remove a baby from a woman. The fact that the baby dies is a (currently) inevitable result, but that’s not the reason.

You and sloth keep acting like women who have abortions, and medical staff who perform them, have some desire to terminate the lives of unborn children completely independent of removing it from an unwilling mother.

You can understand that people die in war, but the POINT of war is not to kill people - its to accomplish an objective. You can understand that giving someone the death penalty results in someone dying, but the POINT of the death penalty isnt to kill people (its to keep the rest of society safe). I’m sure we could think of countless other examples.

Yet, when it comes to abortion, you want to use the logic that “X causes Y, therefore those who do X must have a desire for Y”. Its bad logic, Push.

Do you understand my position better, now? [/quote]

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
righteous hog slop [/i][/quote]

See, this is something that only a hick redneck would say :wink: No one else considers the pigs nowdays.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:<<< I think >>>[/quote]Yes you do. All by yourself. Just like every other unbelieving autonomous man. Which is why you are still in your sins and beyond clueless where the things of God are concerned. Repent Push. Repent and watch His power move in your life. I have to believe you were meant for more than this.

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[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:<<< would take so long as to result in a full term >>>[/quote]Wadda tragedy. After all we’ve done to avoid that?

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]ironcross wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
righteous hog slop [/i][/quote]

See, this is something that only a hick redneck would say :wink: No one else considers the pigs nowdays.
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I thought it was “outback western hick?”[/quote]

It’s flexible.

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
[/quote] Your “Christian” schtick is an abomination and a reproach to the God I love. You are a tool of Satan being used to defile the name and covenants of the God you both hate. I haven’t so much as uttered a syllable in your direction for a couple months at least, but when you attempt to associate yourself with my views on godly and honorable marriage, family and womanhood I will make it clear in no uncertain terms that your life is a blasphemous testimony to debaucherous demonic deception and should in not even the minutest way be confused with Christianity.

I couldn’t possibly care less what you make of that. I owe it to my Master and Savior to defend His honor when filth is smeared on His face. I reiterate once again. He has gifted you substantially and you could be a mighty weapon of righteousness in His hands Push. I have no control over what you believe, but I long to stand by your side in His service. I do. I would be first in line to embrace you as a fellow warrior, but you don’t even see man. You’re fighting for my enemy.
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[quote]pushharder wrote:<<< 'Watch out for the teachers of the law. >>>[/quote]To your credit you actually got the general doctrine of creation pretty close. Satan himself would get that even closer though. The demons believe and tremble after all.(James 2:9) You don’t know what pharisee-ism is any more than you know what anything else in the bible is. You most assuredly also know nothing about me.

You were gonna come and visit me remember? That’s been a while now. Come on. I’ll take you to church and we’ll spend some time in prayer together. You have my word nobody will know anything about you other than you’re my friend from an internet site I’m meeting for the first time in person. Come on tough guy. You can introduce my teeth to my spleen and then we’ll go worship God together. I’m being quite serious. If you could get here then you can get here now. Depending on when maybe we’ll hit the gym together too. Chest tri’s and delts on Saturday and legs on Monday. I have a feeling that your training schedule is a bit more flexible than mine.

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I’m inviting you to my church. It’s in Detroit. (link may not work) Google Maps You expressed what I took as a genuine interest in coming to see me a few years back. I’m asking you to do it. You could if you really wanted to. It would be relatively trivial for you and maybe you will. I hope so. I would like for us to meet and to introduce you to the people who are dear to me. The very fact that you see this as somehow inconsistent with every other thing I’ve said to you is proof positive you know nothing whatsoever of the true and living God, His Christ or His gospel. You can give me all the lessons in humility you want. I WILL sit and listen.

I’m not putting you on and I’m not setting you up for anything. I’m simply asking you to come praise and worship God with me. The God whom you have told me you love. To sit under one hour of the annointed preaching of His Word. Again, you have my promise. There is no hidden agenda. There are hundreds of witnesses here. This is the most genuine offer you’ve ever gotten. In order to introduce you I would have to know your name though. =]

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These questions (and more) are NEVER answered. Quote the article and cite the information if you think otherwise.

[quote]joebassin wrote:

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
I read the article and I know every false truth a pro-lifer has, nothing new there in the page you copied. Science actually proves the case for life earlier and earlier, why do you suppose that is?

If choice was the correct option, why does science support your opposition?
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You always ask me questions which are answered in the article. If you truly read it then you did not understand anything that was in it. [/quote]