Before I go, notice what happened when they brought entitlement programs into the conversation…a mother has no obligation to the human life–here own offspring–in the womb, but we’re all, by threat of law, responsible for taking care of their grandmothers (completely removed from us). Tax dollars are produced with the labor of OUR BODIES. OH-ho-ho now!
Next time, when claiming an absolute right to your body, don’t mention entitlement programs favorably.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Before I go, notice what happened when they brought entitlement programs into the conversation…a mother has no obligation to the human life–here own offspring–in the womb, but we’re all, by threat of law, responsible for taking care of their grandmothers (completely removed from us). Tax dollars are produced with the labor of OUR BODIES. OH-ho-ho now!
Next time, when claiming an absolute right to your body, don’t mention entitlement programs favorably.[/quote]
The point is that you should have no issue with the government providing financial support to people who can’t afford to raise their children. After all, it was your decision to force the mother to keep the baby.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Before I go, notice what happened when they brought entitlement programs into the conversation…a mother has no obligation to the human life–here own offspring–in the womb, but we’re all, by threat of law, responsible for taking care of their grandmothers (completely removed from us). Tax dollars are produced with the labor of OUR BODIES. OH-ho-ho now!
Next time, when claiming an absolute right to your body, don’t mention entitlement programs favorably.[/quote]
The point is that you should have no issue with the government providing financial support to people who can’t afford to raise their children. After all, it was your decision to force the mother to keep the baby.[/quote]
Why would I support the government providing financial support? No other taxpayer is responsible for that human life. They have no hand in it. They are not guilty of killing it, as is the case in abortion.
Sell your computer. No, sell everything but food and shelter. Now, send the profit to a charity. Better yet, convince someone to force you to do it. We’ll come back to this.
Abortion is the direct, deliberate, killing of an innocent human life. THIS, actually turns around the entitlement deal on progressive-liberals. If a mother isn’t responsible to the already existing human life in her womb, because it’s her body…How much less the taxpayer is responsible for strangers, out of the fruits of his labors, produced from the efforts of his body.
A mother leaves a child to die in a dumpster. You won’t sell off you’re leisure items until the last, in order to feed the poor. Which is responsible for murder?
Guys, stop. Please, I don’t have time for games. I don’t have the patience for watching people horribly conflate different things in order to get away from me reminding them that they support the DELIBERATE TAKING OF INNOCENT HUMAN LIVES. It’s finals time, shortly.
I have to watch Capped claim a right to life, apparently oblivious to the fact that his life began in the womb (fact, same individual organism). And then, I have to watch you guys clumsily try to equate unlike things. Which then ends up being a case of shooting yourselves in the foot.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Before I go, notice what happened when they brought entitlement programs into the conversation…a mother has no obligation to the human life–here own offspring–in the womb, but we’re all, by threat of law, responsible for taking care of their grandmothers (completely removed from us). Tax dollars are produced with the labor of OUR BODIES. OH-ho-ho now!
Next time, when claiming an absolute right to your body, don’t mention entitlement programs favorably.[/quote]
The point is that you should have no issue with the government providing financial support to people who can’t afford to raise their children. After all, it was your decision to force the mother to keep the baby.[/quote]
Why would I support the government providing financial support? No other taxpayer is responsible for that human life. They have no hand in it. They are not guilty of killing it, as is the case in abortion.
Sell your computer. No, sell everything but food and shelter. Now, send the profit to a charity. Better yet, convince someone to force you to do it. We’ll come back to this.
Abortion is the direct, deliberate, killing of an innocent human life. THIS, actually turns around the entitlement deal on progressive-liberals. If a mother isn’t responsible to the already existing human life in her womb, because it’s her body…How much less the taxpayer is responsible for strangers, out of the fruits of his labors, produced from the efforts of his body.
A mother leaves a child to die in a dumpster. You won’t sell off you’re leisure items until the last, in order to feed the poor. Which is responsible for murder?
Guys, stop. Please, I don’t have time for games. I don’t have the patience for watching people horribly conflate different things in order to get away from reminding them that they support the DELIBERATE TAKING OF INNOCENT HUMAN LIVES. It’s finals time, shortly.
I have to watch Capped claim a right to life, apparently oblivious to the fact that his life began in the womb (fact, same individual organism). And then, I have to watch you guys clumsily try to equate to unlike things. Which then ends up being a case of shooting yourselves in the foot.[/quote]
So according to you, once the child his born the mother can let it die and it’s right?
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Before I go, notice what happened when they brought entitlement programs into the conversation…a mother has no obligation to the human life–here own offspring–in the womb, but we’re all, by threat of law, responsible for taking care of their grandmothers (completely removed from us). Tax dollars are produced with the labor of OUR BODIES. OH-ho-ho now!
Next time, when claiming an absolute right to your body, don’t mention entitlement programs favorably.[/quote]
The point is that you should have no issue with the government providing financial support to people who can’t afford to raise their children. After all, it was your decision to force the mother to keep the baby.[/quote]
Why would I support the government providing financial support? No other taxpayer is responsible for that human life. They have no hand in it. They are not guilty of killing it, as is the case in abortion.
Sell your computer. No, sell everything but food and shelter. Now, send the profit to a charity. Better yet, convince someone to force you to do it. We’ll come back to this.
Abortion is the direct, deliberate, killing of an innocent human life. THIS, actually turns around the entitlement deal on progressive-liberals. If a mother isn’t responsible to the already existing human life in her womb, because it’s her body…How much less the taxpayer is responsible for strangers, out of the fruits of his labors, produced from the efforts of his body.
A mother leaves a child to die in a dumpster. You won’t sell off you’re leisure items until the last, in order to feed the poor. Which is responsible for murder?
Guys, stop. Please, I don’t have time for games. I don’t have the patience for watching people horribly conflate different things in order to get away from reminding them that they support the DELIBERATE TAKING OF INNOCENT HUMAN LIVES. It’s finals time, shortly.
I have to watch Capped claim a right to life, apparently oblivious to the fact that his life began in the womb (fact, same individual organism). And then, I have to watch you guys clumsily try to equate to unlike things. Which then ends up being a case of shooting yourselves in the foot.[/quote]
So according to you, once the child his born the mother can let it die and it’s right?[/quote]
Nope. You, I worry about. The others I think are purposefully being obtuse to avoid the fact that they support the deliberate taking of innocent human life. You, I think, are just lost. You’ll probably prove me right by going on about embryos and skin cells.
Over and out, for most likely the night.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Before I go, notice what happened when they brought entitlement programs into the conversation…a mother has no obligation to the human life–here own offspring–in the womb, but we’re all, by threat of law, responsible for taking care of their grandmothers (completely removed from us). Tax dollars are produced with the labor of OUR BODIES. OH-ho-ho now!
Next time, when claiming an absolute right to your body, don’t mention entitlement programs favorably.[/quote]
The point is that you should have no issue with the government providing financial support to people who can’t afford to raise their children. After all, it was your decision to force the mother to keep the baby.[/quote]
Why would I support the government providing financial support? No other taxpayer is responsible for that human life. They have no hand in it. They are not guilty of killing it, as is the case in abortion.
Sell your computer. No, sell everything but food and shelter. Now, send the profit to a charity. Better yet, convince someone to force you to do it. We’ll come back to this.
Abortion is the direct, deliberate, killing of an innocent human life. THIS, actually turns around the entitlement deal on progressive-liberals. If a mother isn’t responsible to the already existing human life in her womb, because it’s her body…How much less the taxpayer is responsible for strangers, out of the fruits of his labors, produced from the efforts of his body.
A mother leaves a child to die in a dumpster. You won’t sell off you’re leisure items until the last, in order to feed the poor. Which is responsible for murder?
Guys, stop. Please, I don’t have time for games. I don’t have the patience for watching people horribly conflate different things in order to get away from reminding them that they support the DELIBERATE TAKING OF INNOCENT HUMAN LIVES. It’s finals time, shortly.
I have to watch Capped claim a right to life, apparently oblivious to the fact that his life began in the womb (fact, same individual organism). And then, I have to watch you guys clumsily try to equate to unlike things. Which then ends up being a case of shooting yourselves in the foot.[/quote]
So according to you, once the child his born the mother can let it die and it’s right?[/quote]
Nope. You, I worry about. The others I think are purposefully being obtuse to avoid the fact that they support the deliberate taking of innocent human life. You, I think, are just lost. You’ll probably prove me right by going on about embryos and skin cells.
Over and out, for most likely the night.
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Do you know what you and an embryo have in common. It’s quite simple in fact, you both have no brain.
Look at this human embryo. What is he thinking right now? Wait, he can’t think, he doesn’t have a brain.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Oh, good grief, LilJoe, I’d have thought the bus had swung by and picked you up by now.[/quote]
Hello my embryo friend.
You guys are against the killing of human with no brain because it’s the only way to save your life.
[quote]joebassin wrote:
Look at this human embryo. What is he thinking right now? Wait, he can’t think, he doesn’t have a brain. [/quote]
If you look at this picture on acid you can tell it’s thinking. Unfortunately that stuff is hard to come by.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]ironcross wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
Look at this human embryo. What is he thinking right now? Wait, he can’t think, he doesn’t have a brain. [/quote]
If you look at this picture on acid you can tell it’s thinking. Unfortunately that stuff is hard to come by.[/quote]
Apparently you’ve come across an ample supply.[/quote]
Unfortunately not ample enough.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]ironcross wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]ironcross wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
Look at this human embryo. What is he thinking right now? Wait, he can’t think, he doesn’t have a brain. [/quote]
If you look at this picture on acid you can tell it’s thinking. Unfortunately that stuff is hard to come by.[/quote]
Apparently you’ve come across an ample supply.[/quote]
Unfortunately not ample enough.[/quote]
Are we now talking about something else? Cuz you have a knack for that sort of thing.
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out of arguments again, as always.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]ironcross wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]ironcross wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
Look at this human embryo. What is he thinking right now? Wait, he can’t think, he doesn’t have a brain. [/quote]
If you look at this picture on acid you can tell it’s thinking. Unfortunately that stuff is hard to come by.[/quote]
Apparently you’ve come across an ample supply.[/quote]
Unfortunately not ample enough.[/quote]
Are we now talking about something else? Cuz you have a knack for that sort of thing.
;-)[/quote]
Nope we’re still on acid.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
out of arguments again, as always. [/quote]
You can leave me and Miss IC alone now. We’re just messin’ around and the last thing we need is LilJoe walking into the room and farting.[/quote]
As you wish my little embryo.
IC, again can you provide any kind of backing for your claim? There might be a few people who create children and give them up and into the system shrug But far more people have their children taken away because they can’t/refuse to take care of the kids. At least this is of the case for three different couples I know.
Again, your point about people who don’t take care of their parents/grandparents is, what? I could care less who and why people do it. Karma is a bitch.
A “right” is something given to you by our creator. I hate wiki but it has a few times where it can be useful. “Natural rights are right not contingent upon the laws, customs, or beliefs of any particular culture or government, and therefore universal and inalienable.” A right to life is one of those rights, for example.
Sorry buddy, I asked long before you made your claim. I will be happy to tell you the country I visited for a semester if you quit playing your games. Do I still live there? Take a look at my AVI. I currently reside in Phoenix, AZ at least for the next six months.
As a side not, I am not editing this quote yet because it is providing a perfect example of why I quote the way I do. We have responded to each others posts, who said what and when can be easily identified. Even if someone else were to join the conversation, it can be easily identified. I laugh because some will be driven nuts by the fact I am showing a different way to post. I literally GOL ; )
[quote]ironcross wrote:
It’s not at all uncommon for a person to have multiple children they give up for adoption. Many are also left at hospitals and signed into the foster-care system. It’s not talked about because it’s “not your problem”.
There are also plenty of people who aren’t taking care of their grandparents.
However, I have the impression you have no idea what I mean by the word “right” in this argument. So let’s start there. What do you consider to be the “rights” of the elderly that have to be respected by those related to them who can care for them?
Before I answer your question about what country I’m from, why don’t you go ahead and tell me which country you were referring to as amazingly progressive for outlawing abortion? Do you still live there?
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
What country are you from IC? How old are you? Are you a native speaker? What is your level of education you are trying to reach? I ask because this might explain your ineptitude.
And please try and find me someone who is pro-life AND they want to take away the rights of the elderly. The weakest portions of societies will loose their rights before a society collapses. With newborns losing their rights, the next step will be the senior citizens.
You can force people to be responsible. That can and should be done! How many babies can a woman and man create before they actually realize the acts/wrongs they are doing? Can you think of why there are never any stories about couples who just have sex and create lots of babies and give each one up for adoption? Why would those stories never exist?
[quote]ironcross wrote:
If you paid attention, you’d realize that you’re switching sides here. I’m actually for paying for the elderly; it’s your camp that wants to take that away. I’m for paying for government charities; once again, it’s the anti-abortion group that generally stands against these programs that you’re now suddenly advocating in light of my argument. I also personally take responsibility for all of my family, but you know as well as I do that I’m not required to by law and wouldn’t be punished if my grandparent died because I didn’t attend to them.
Here’s the sad truth, which everyone arguing against pro-choice already knows: you cannot force someone to be a good parent. They can make life but they may not take care of it. They might choose to release all rights to it. Simply creating it doesn’t mean that you’re going to take care of it. We don’t hold the creator responsible if they choose to give up their rights to their creation.[/quote]
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edit this is directed at mak ; )
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]ironcross wrote:
It’s not at all uncommon for a person to have multiple children they give up for adoption. Many are also left at hospitals and signed into the foster-care system. It’s not talked about because it’s “not your problem”.
There are also plenty of people who aren’t taking care of their grandparents.
However, I have the impression you have no idea what I mean by the word “right” in this argument. So let’s start there. What do you consider to be the “rights” of the elderly that have to be respected by those related to them who can care for them?
Before I answer your question about what country I’m from, why don’t you go ahead and tell me which country you were referring to as amazingly progressive for outlawing abortion? Do you still live there?
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
What country are you from IC? How old are you? Are you a native speaker? What is your level of education you are trying to reach? I ask because this might explain your ineptitude.
And please try and find me someone who is pro-life AND they want to take away the rights of the elderly. The weakest portions of societies will loose their rights before a society collapses. With newborns losing their rights, the next step will be the senior citizens.
You can force people to be responsible. That can and should be done! How many babies can a woman and man create before they actually realize the acts/wrongs they are doing? Can you think of why there are never any stories about couples who just have sex and create lots of babies and give each one up for adoption? Why would those stories never exist?
[quote]ironcross wrote:
If you paid attention, you’d realize that you’re switching sides here. I’m actually for paying for the elderly; it’s your camp that wants to take that away. I’m for paying for government charities; once again, it’s the anti-abortion group that generally stands against these programs that you’re now suddenly advocating in light of my argument. I also personally take responsibility for all of my family, but you know as well as I do that I’m not required to by law and wouldn’t be punished if my grandparent died because I didn’t attend to them.
Here’s the sad truth, which everyone arguing against pro-choice already knows: you cannot force someone to be a good parent. They can make life but they may not take care of it. They might choose to release all rights to it. Simply creating it doesn’t mean that you’re going to take care of it. We don’t hold the creator responsible if they choose to give up their rights to their creation.[/quote]
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Stop pandering to his bullshit quote system.[/quote]
