Life Principles

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@flappinit

I think this is being overly dismissive of other’s principles. For one, some people don’t even have “be empathetic and kind” as principles. Second, principles can absolutely explain success. @dchris was homeless at one point, and, without putting words in his mouth, I think his work ethic is intertwined with principles he has about the type of results that hard work generates. Pwn has shown pictures of himself prior to looking like he does now, and he won’t be offended when I say he wasn’t a genetic specimen. In fact, it’s more of a compliment, because his lifting principles have led to him getting bigger and stronger in the face of some pretty fucked up injuries.

I also think you’ve misunderstood Pwn’s “nutritional voodoo”. Being more hungry and eating less food works for everyone when they want to lose fat. The entire point of the ‘simple but not easy’ discussion was that yes, eating less makes you lose weight, and yes, it works for everyone.

I could be wrong, but the attitude I see in this post is the reason why people come on here and say that yes, they’ve done everything right but their situation is just different and that’s why they don’t have results, when in fact, it’s just them and their choices preventing them from getting anywhere. Outside of extreme circumstances, hard work and discipline yield results.

I understand what you’re getting at with the last sentence too, but I would just say that different people have different principles. Your principles don’t have to apply to anyone else. Ted Bundy’s principle was to kill people and fuck their dead bodies. And boy, did he follow his principle to a T.

Ya, I interjected quite a bit of my own life principles and worldviews into this, while simultaneously saying that such things don’t exist!

I think most of your post is in regards to the importance of hard work and discipline in everything in life and how those can be the fundamental life principle?

My answer- I totally agree with you. In fact, I think hard work and discipline are the absolute basic prerequisite to achieving anything goal related.

But, here’s the kicker to my world view/principle on this, I think hard work and discipline are such basic prerequisites that they, onto themselves, do not explain “success”. They are absolutely required for success to the point that they do not explain why people succeed. Everyone who succeeded in pursuing their goals has incredible hard work ethic and discipline, but did they succeed primarily because they had incredible work ethic and discipline? I currently lean towards saying no.

Regarding the “nutritional voodoo”- I thought that was in reference to the stuff like “don’t mix carbs and fat in the same meal” and other things T3hPwnisher came up with as he ate and saw what happens to his body. Stuff that makes sense to his body but may not be necessary/good for others.

I’ll be back with more.

Back from lunch-

Perhaps I misunderstood what life principles mean?

If we take the fat loss thing for example, a lot of the strategies people come up with are an attempt to make the basic principle of “eat less and you will lose weight” easier for people to deal with.

Of course, all of those lie on the basic foundation of hard work and discipline. You can know the principle, but if you lack said basic foundation then you’ll probably go nowhere.

I suppose the unfortunate part is that people often fail to recognize when they didn’t genuinely try hard in pursuing a certain goal.

That is the crux of my belief when it comes to hard work and discipline- they can be considered the bedrock of all principles and strategies to achieve a goal. You cannot realistically think you’ll be able to apply those principles without having that foundation.

So, when say I “life principle”, I meant more specific rules or guidelines. Like those rules you’d read in “The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People” or " How to Become CEO: The Rules for Rising to the Top of Any Organization".

These all speak of guidelines or rules that seem to work in helping you achieve a certain goal. However, whether they truly apply in a general “life” sense seems debatable.