I would absolutely drop doses in a weekly fashion. no less… i would also crush the pills and divide them into 6, 8 or 10 piles if possible.
Do you have a finite amount of tablets? The liquid version is so much more cost effective.
[quote]juice20jd wrote:
pesty4077 wrote:
juice20jd wrote:
Pesty…
the letro is now a reactive measure for the sides he developed…taking it during cycle would be proactive and the best, but it’s too late for him now. the cycle is over.
he’s going to be taking the letro to combat his gyno…not for recovery. did you read the original post or anything else? he already did his PCT and now probably has E rebound gyno. there’s nothing wrong with reactively attempting to alleviate sides before going to the doc. what would bloodwork do in this case? nothing. he’s not concerned about recovery…only dealing with the gyno that developed after his PCT.
Well, What makes you a doctor? You don’t need bloodwork, Would like to see a list of all the ones who believe that and didn,t make it? I been in this game of BB for 28 years, and saw a few of my friends buried, because of ignorance. The only reason I tell you this, because I went through it, and survived.
If you are truely concern about gyno, you take it when you are on your cycle, novadex is the only thing I would recommend on PCT. Letro will remove it next time he does a cycle, if it dosen’t, well he probally needs surgery. Of course, I am not a doctor, which I would recommend for him to see.
once again, this post is not contributing anything.
he should have been proactive but wasn’t…so saying taking it on cycle as a preventative measure is a mute point and adds zero value for the OP. do you get that? he already has the gyno…what good is saying “you should have been taking it on cycle” doing for him? contribute advice that helps the poster.
of course i’m not a doctor and never claimed to be. i still don’t see where bloodwork would be of any value for this particular circumstance. is bloodwork valuable? yes! but what good is it for THIS CASE? and besides, how many doctors are in tune and up to date and open minded about this topic? not many.
most long standing users who have put some time in to learn the theorectical and practical about AAS probably are on par with the average physician on the subject, when it comes to pertinent knowledge. the doc is not a bad option, and should be the only option for serious sides, but it is not the ONLY option for this case.
i personally don’t care how long you’ve been in the “game” especially when you can’t even read a post, understand it, and contribute something meaningful from your long and storied bodybuilding experience. your wealth of knowledge simply didn’t come through and all i did was try to clarify to you what the poster was asking for.
being in the “game” for such and such years doesn’t give you a get out of jail free card when you pass shit advice…which your posts above don’t really classify as advice, more like off topic advice, and almost fatherly scolding which clouded up the thread.
the whole going to the doctor thing is not ill advised. on the flip side, running a gyno reversal protocol with, letro, not nolvadex, is not a horrible idea. it has worked for many people and if he can live with the knowledge the glands are there, and to be proactive in side prevention from here on, why rush to the doctor if he can limit the problem himself.
i did not flame or insult you in previous posts, but please learn to read and interpret the written language before giving advice so as to remain on topic.
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WELL, I am giving shit advice because I told him to see a doctor?? Off topic advice? You are kidding? Of course you are all knowing and know more than them, what degree do you have? There are many types a doctors, you wouldn’t go to a orthodontist for a foot problem, would you?
NO! you go to a doctor that specializes in HRT! It is easy to give out advice on this forum to guys, with out fear of consequences. If he having problems past his PCT, he has a hormonal imbalance, thus the specialist, and you don’t know why bloodwork is valuable in this case?
I am not some fly by night idiot that thinks he can determine some one’s condition over the internet. That is about the most solid advice you can give someone. If you think that is flaming you, too bad, I give a crap about people’s health!
His cycle is complete and it is too late for prevention, it is now time for reactive measures…self limiting the gyno with a letro protocol is not a bad option…no one ever said a doctor visit was a bad idea either. since you asked, i have enough degrees hanging on my wall in engineering and pure science to be able to wrap my head around these topics, if you give a fuck.
however, i never said that anyone on a forum replaces a medical professional…just stated facts…that the average intelligent reponsible user is probably more in tune with up to date, accurate knowlege concerning AAS than the average physician.
Your original advice was HCG and nolva…of which he had already completed during his PCT. you were seemlingly unable to realize that his PCT was complete, as was his cycle, and none of your suggestions were going to deal with the current issue. where you are 100% correct though, is that all users should strive to be proactive when managing possible side effects.
bloodwork is all fine and good if you want to see where you are at pre cycle, or post PCT…or when recovery is an extended battle. but for E rebound gyno? come on. he gave no signs or mentioned that his recovery had failed, just that he had rebound sides. so where was your advice solid? where was it relevant to the original question posed by the OP?? no where. case closed.
good luck to the OP.
JJ,
I only have finite amount, but could crush them up into piles…curious how that is any different from “slicing” the tab into say quarters and lowering in a weekly fashion? unless you are suggesting lowering the dose in smaller increments for a longer amount of time. or maybe it evens the amounts out better.
by the time I am done with the 1st week @2.5mgs/day, I will probably have 18 tabs left. was hoping to string that out to get through the protocol.
thoughts?
Thanks,
Saka
[quote]Saka wrote:
JJ,
I only have finite amount, but could crush them up into piles…curious how that is any different from “slicing” the tab into say quarters and lowering in a weekly fashion? unless you are suggesting lowering the dose in smaller increments for a longer amount of time. or maybe it evens the amounts out better.
by the time I am done with the 1st week @2.5mgs/day, I will probably have 18 tabs left. was hoping to string that out to get through the protocol.
thoughts?
Thanks,
Saka[/quote]
How’s it working out for you? Is your gyno subsiding somewhat?
[quote]Saka wrote:
JJ,
I only have finite amount, but could crush them up into piles…curious how that is any different from “slicing” the tab into say quarters and lowering in a weekly fashion? unless you are suggesting lowering the dose in smaller increments for a longer amount of time. or maybe it evens the amounts out better.
by the time I am done with the 1st week @2.5mgs/day, I will probably have 18 tabs left. was hoping to string that out to get through the protocol.
thoughts?
Thanks,
Saka[/quote]
Of course i am suggesting lower doses… i mean if there are 8 piles of powder, that is kinda less per dose than 4 quarters isnt it?
Yes, so the taper can be more steady… fuck it, quarters will be fine!
guys,
First, thanks again for all the help…
So far I think this is working pretty well…I notice less sensitivity and i think the minor lump has gotten even smaller.
I think tapering (whether it be piles or quarters) down will be interesting. curious to see how my body reacts to the smaller dosage.
i will try and post anything else that comes up in cause this is useful to anyone else.
Thanks,
Saka
[quote]Saka wrote:
guys,
First, thanks again for all the help…
So far I think this is working pretty well…I notice less sensitivity and i think the minor lump has gotten even smaller.
I think tapering (whether it be piles or quarters) down will be interesting. curious to see how my body reacts to the smaller dosage.
i will try and post anything else that comes up in cause this is useful to anyone else.
Thanks,
Saka[/quote]
Gee, I hope letro works for me too. My gyno has been with me for years, so it could have been there for too long. It sucks having 2 square inches on your body being effected to the point where it’s depressing.