[quote]Mick28 wrote:
You make an good point i wonder how many people will move to states that have legalized pot? i bet not many. And the people who do go are probably not worth having. I mean moving to a state just so you can smoke a joint. That seems pretty radical. if they made beer illegal i wouldn’t be moving to another state and i love my beer. I’d be pissed but i wouldn’t move my job and family is here. [/quote]
fortunately, someone would probably supply you anyway.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
This is Mary $1.25
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Amateur. [/quote]
Yeah 
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Table, 1x1.1 meters, 5 cocos mats, 6 plants per mat, 1600 ppm of Co2, 600 watt hps ----> 900-1000g yield.
Of course you need irrigation with a timer.
I will be damned before I buy inferior shit ever again.
Then again, clones are perfectly legal here. [/quote]
Is this a perpetual grow? 900-1000g per plant or harvest?
[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
This is Mary $1.25
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Amateur. [/quote]
Yeah
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Table, 1x1.1 meters, 5 cocos mats, 6 plants per mat, 1600 ppm of Co2, 600 watt hps ----> 900-1000g yield.
Of course you need irrigation with a timer.
I will be damned before I buy inferior shit ever again.
Then again, clones are perfectly legal here. [/quote]
Is this a perpetual grow? 900-1000g per plant or harvest?[/quote]
per lamp-
nothing else matters.
per watt to be specific, if you accept light as the limiting factor. which you kind of must indoors, you can only optimize the rest.
Jesus Christ I am on the interwebz, mainly talking about growi8ng weed and getting laid.
Anyone interested in the finer points of Spartan foreign policy as dictated by the Helot system?
[quote]orion wrote:
Jesus Christ I am on the interwebz, mainly talking about growi8ng weed and getting laid.
Anyone interested in the finer points of Spartan foreign policy as dictated by the Helot system?
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Is there sex and drugs involved with ‘the finer points of Spartan foreign policy as dictated by the Helot system’?
If so, sure!
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
You make an good point i wonder how many people will move to states that have legalized pot? i bet not many. And the people who do go are probably not worth having. I mean moving to a state just so you can smoke a joint. That seems pretty radical. if they made beer illegal i wouldn’t be moving to another state and i love my beer. I’d be pissed but i wouldn’t move my job and family is here. [/quote]
I can’t see many people moving their lives just to light a joint.
Perhaps the psychologically addicted ones, but I don’t think there are many of them.
I’m guessing that not many people will permanently move just to smoke pot, but cannabis tourism? Highly probable. How many college kids on their official Eurail summer trip haven’t swung over to Amsterdam just for the experience?
On the other hand, if certain states included cannabis policy as part of a general libertarian trend…well then I would definitely consider moving.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
You make an good point i wonder how many people will move to states that have legalized pot? i bet not many. And the people who do go are probably not worth having. I mean moving to a state just so you can smoke a joint. That seems pretty radical. if they made beer illegal i wouldn’t be moving to another state and i love my beer. I’d be pissed but i wouldn’t move my job and family is here. [/quote]
I can’t see many people moving their lives just to light a joint.
Perhaps the psychologically addicted ones, but I don’t think there are many of them.[/quote]
I could people with certain types of medical afflictions moving because of it. Like someone during chemo who can’t find a better appetite stimulator and pain killer that lets them keep functioning during day to day activities.
[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
You make an good point i wonder how many people will move to states that have legalized pot? i bet not many. And the people who do go are probably not worth having. I mean moving to a state just so you can smoke a joint. That seems pretty radical. if they made beer illegal i wouldn’t be moving to another state and i love my beer. I’d be pissed but i wouldn’t move my job and family is here. [/quote]
I can’t see many people moving their lives just to light a joint.
Perhaps the psychologically addicted ones, but I don’t think there are many of them.[/quote]
I could people with certain types of medical afflictions moving because of it. Like someone during chemo who can’t find a better appetite stimulator and pain killer that lets them keep functioning during day to day activities. [/quote]
Very true, and a good point.
[quote]groo wrote:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/22/yale-study-alcohols-gateway-effect-much-larger-than-marijuanas/#.UN3J5QSTG1M.facebook[/quote]
Take over the counter drugs
http://scienceblog.com/community/older/2001/E/200115173.html
Liver complications and still legal, NO complications and illegal ,I can’t understand the logic
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
NO complications and illegal ,I can’t understand the logic [/quote]
‘Research has shown that marijuana’s negative effects on attention, memory, and learning can last for days or weeks after the acute effects of the drug wear off. Consequently, someone who smokes marijuana daily may be functioning at a reduced intellectual level most or all of the time…Not surprisingly, evidence suggests that, compared with their nonsmoking peers, students who smoke marijuana tend to get lower grades and are more likely to drop out of high school. A meta-analysis of 48 relevant studiesâ??one of the most thorough performed to dateâ??found cannabis use to be associated consistently with reduced educational attainment (e.g., grades and chances of graduating)…several studies have linked workers’ marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers’ compensation claims, and job turnover. For example, a study among postal workers found that employees who tested positive for marijuana on a pre-employment urine drug test had 55 percent more industrial accidents, 85 percent more injuries, and a 75-percent increase in absenteeism compared with those who tested negative for marijuana use.’
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
NO complications and illegal ,I can’t understand the logic [/quote]
‘Research has shown that marijuana’s negative effects on attention, memory, and learning can last for days or weeks after the acute effects of the drug wear off. Consequently, someone who smokes marijuana daily may be functioning at a reduced intellectual level most or all of the time…Not surprisingly, evidence suggests that, compared with their nonsmoking peers, students who smoke marijuana tend to get lower grades and are more likely to drop out of high school. A meta-analysis of 48 relevant studiesÃ?¢??one of the most thorough performed to dateÃ?¢??found cannabis use to be associated consistently with reduced educational attainment (e.g., grades and chances of graduating)…several studies have linked workers’ marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers’ compensation claims, and job turnover. For example, a study among postal workers found that employees who tested positive for marijuana on a pre-employment urine drug test had 55 percent more industrial accidents, 85 percent more injuries, and a 75-percent increase in absenteeism compared with those who tested negative for marijuana use.’
Source: How does marijuana use affect school, work, and social life? | National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) [/quote]
Just one example
" Not surprisingly, evidence suggests that, compared with their nonsmoking peers, students who smoke marijuana tend to get lower grades and are more likely " says the article
Evidence (SUGGESTS) could it be that poor students were more likely to smoke MJ ? the article is full of bullshit like this .
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Just one example
" Not surprisingly, evidence suggests that, compared with their nonsmoking peers, students who smoke marijuana tend to get lower grades and are more likely " says the article
Evidence (SUGGESTS) could it be that poor students were more likely to smoke MJ ? the article is full of bullshit like this .[/quote]
It also said this:
‘Despite similar education and income backgrounds, significant differences were found in educational attainment…’
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
NO complications and illegal ,I can’t understand the logic [/quote]
‘Research has shown that marijuana’s negative effects on attention, memory, and learning can last for days or weeks after the acute effects of the drug wear off. Consequently, someone who smokes marijuana daily may be functioning at a reduced intellectual level most or all of the time…Not surprisingly, evidence suggests that, compared with their nonsmoking peers, students who smoke marijuana tend to get lower grades and are more likely to drop out of high school. A meta-analysis of 48 relevant studiesÃ??Ã?¢??one of the most thorough performed to dateÃ??Ã?¢??found cannabis use to be associated consistently with reduced educational attainment (e.g., grades and chances of graduating)…several studies have linked workers’ marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers’ compensation claims, and job turnover. For example, a study among postal workers found that employees who tested positive for marijuana on a pre-employment urine drug test had 55 percent more industrial accidents, 85 percent more injuries, and a 75-percent increase in absenteeism compared with those who tested negative for marijuana use.’
Source: How does marijuana use affect school, work, and social life? | National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) [/quote]
Just one example
" Not surprisingly, evidence suggests that, compared with their nonsmoking peers, students who smoke marijuana tend to get lower grades and are more likely " says the article
Evidence (SUGGESTS) could it be that poor students were more likely to smoke MJ ? the article is full of bullshit like this .[/quote]
It’s a meta-analysis on a credible site with a shitload of references. You probably didn’t read the article. In what line of work are you to so quickly and confidently say this article is bullshit?
In case you didn’t know, in the health field evidence usually SUGGESTS (your “argument” for saying it’s a bullshit article) and doesn’t prove anything.
However I don’t see why this article would be an argument against legislation. Cannabis is correlated with certain negative effects & social factors. No shit. So is alcohol.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
NO complications and illegal ,I can’t understand the logic [/quote]
‘Research has shown that marijuana’s negative effects on attention, memory, and learning can last for days or weeks after the acute effects of the drug wear off. Consequently, someone who smokes marijuana daily may be functioning at a reduced intellectual level most or all of the time…Not surprisingly, evidence suggests that, compared with their nonsmoking peers, students who smoke marijuana tend to get lower grades and are more likely to drop out of high school. A meta-analysis of 48 relevant studiesÃ?¢??one of the most thorough performed to dateÃ?¢??found cannabis use to be associated consistently with reduced educational attainment (e.g., grades and chances of graduating)…several studies have linked workers’ marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers’ compensation claims, and job turnover. For example, a study among postal workers found that employees who tested positive for marijuana on a pre-employment urine drug test had 55 percent more industrial accidents, 85 percent more injuries, and a 75-percent increase in absenteeism compared with those who tested negative for marijuana use.’
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It is important when looking at studies to remember that correlation does not equal causation.
If I were to look at people who tested positive for marijuana during postal admittance, it makes me first question the type of person who would apply for a postal job within 1 month of smoking pot considering they knew they would be drug tested.
Doing a study on stupid people and then claiming their stupid action is caused by something they took…immediately eliminates the possibility that they were JUST REALLY STUPID.
[quote]Xav wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
NO complications and illegal ,I can’t understand the logic [/quote]
‘Research has shown that marijuana’s negative effects on attention, memory, and learning can last for days or weeks after the acute effects of the drug wear off. Consequently, someone who smokes marijuana daily may be functioning at a reduced intellectual level most or all of the time…Not surprisingly, evidence suggests that, compared with their nonsmoking peers, students who smoke marijuana tend to get lower grades and are more likely to drop out of high school. A meta-analysis of 48 relevant studiesÃ???Ã??Ã?¢??one of the most thorough performed to dateÃ???Ã??Ã?¢??found cannabis use to be associated consistently with reduced educational attainment (e.g., grades and chances of graduating)…several studies have linked workers’ marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers’ compensation claims, and job turnover. For example, a study among postal workers found that employees who tested positive for marijuana on a pre-employment urine drug test had 55 percent more industrial accidents, 85 percent more injuries, and a 75-percent increase in absenteeism compared with those who tested negative for marijuana use.’
Source: How does marijuana use affect school, work, and social life? | National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) [/quote]
Just one example
" Not surprisingly, evidence suggests that, compared with their nonsmoking peers, students who smoke marijuana tend to get lower grades and are more likely " says the article
Evidence (SUGGESTS) could it be that poor students were more likely to smoke MJ ? the article is full of bullshit like this .[/quote]
It’s a meta-analysis on a credible site with a shitload of references. You probably didn’t read the article. In what line of work are you to so quickly and confidently say this article is bullshit?
In case you didn’t know, in the health field evidence usually SUGGESTS (your “argument” for saying it’s a bullshit article) and doesn’t prove anything.
However I don’t see why this article would be an argument against legislation. Cannabis is correlated with certain negative effects & social factors. No shit. So is alcohol.
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I am truly blue collar , I have been reading articles like this for years . Articles that have an agenda and write the article to promote said agenda . True journalism would take scientific data and report it fairly , To work on all possibilities and distinguish the variables
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Just one example
" Not surprisingly, evidence suggests that, compared with their nonsmoking peers, students who smoke marijuana tend to get lower grades and are more likely " says the article
Evidence (SUGGESTS) could it be that poor students were more likely to smoke MJ ? the article is full of bullshit like this .[/quote]
It also said this:
‘Despite similar education and income backgrounds, significant differences were found in educational attainment…’[/quote]
your point is what , that the is no variation between grades in certain income levels ???
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Just one example
" Not surprisingly, evidence suggests that, compared with their nonsmoking peers, students who smoke marijuana tend to get lower grades and are more likely " says the article
Evidence (SUGGESTS) could it be that poor students were more likely to smoke MJ ? the article is full of bullshit like this .[/quote]
It also said this:
‘Despite similar education and income backgrounds, significant differences were found in educational attainment…’[/quote]
your point is what , that the is no variation between grades in certain income levels ???
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Put the bong down for five minutes pitbull. Your point was that maybe the poor students were more likely to smoke marijuana. My point is that the sample of students all came from similar education and income backgrounds. Therefore, your theory that maybe the poor students were more likely to smoke marijuana doesn’t hold up.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]Xav wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
NO complications and illegal ,I can’t understand the logic [/quote]
‘Research has shown that marijuana’s negative effects on attention, memory, and learning can last for days or weeks after the acute effects of the drug wear off. Consequently, someone who smokes marijuana daily may be functioning at a reduced intellectual level most or all of the time…Not surprisingly, evidence suggests that, compared with their nonsmoking peers, students who smoke marijuana tend to get lower grades and are more likely to drop out of high school. A meta-analysis of 48 relevant studiesÃ???Ã???Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??one of the most thorough performed to dateÃ???Ã???Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??found cannabis use to be associated consistently with reduced educational attainment (e.g., grades and chances of graduating)…several studies have linked workers’ marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers’ compensation claims, and job turnover. For example, a study among postal workers found that employees who tested positive for marijuana on a pre-employment urine drug test had 55 percent more industrial accidents, 85 percent more injuries, and a 75-percent increase in absenteeism compared with those who tested negative for marijuana use.’
Source: How does marijuana use affect school, work, and social life? | National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) [/quote]
Just one example
" Not surprisingly, evidence suggests that, compared with their nonsmoking peers, students who smoke marijuana tend to get lower grades and are more likely " says the article
Evidence (SUGGESTS) could it be that poor students were more likely to smoke MJ ? the article is full of bullshit like this .[/quote]
It’s a meta-analysis on a credible site with a shitload of references. You probably didn’t read the article. In what line of work are you to so quickly and confidently say this article is bullshit?
In case you didn’t know, in the health field evidence usually SUGGESTS (your “argument” for saying it’s a bullshit article) and doesn’t prove anything.
However I don’t see why this article would be an argument against legislation. Cannabis is correlated with certain negative effects & social factors. No shit. So is alcohol.
[/quote]
I am truly blue collar , I have been reading articles like this for years . Articles that have an agenda and write the article to promote said agenda . True journalism would take scientific data and report it fairly , To work on all possibilities and distinguish the variables [/quote]
I went to school to learn how to read and understand studies like this…and you are right. I don’t think most lay-people understand how many grants are given to people who already have agendas and are using their “study” simply to promote said agenda.
A meta-analysis simply means some people you don’t know got together and looked at studies and made a bunch of assumptions from them…mind you, these assumptions can also be biased and usually are.
If I were to do an honest study on the effects of marijuana use, it would first require a society that wouldn’t crucify those being tested who did test positive.