well cardio vascular fitness is the best way to be healthy. but if you do both like many of us its great. this was also the last tiem you went to this doctor right? my doctor says its good i lift maybe your doctor is an idiot. the only thing my doctor tells me is i have a high probabilty of getting aids…real comforting doc
[quote]jjay wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
JJJ, you are living in a dreamworld. I was respectful in your other post because I underestimated your ignorance. No one will be ‘ok’ on legal PCT with these prohormones because they are real steroids. Steroids with worse sides that are more liver toxic. You have some gall to go on a diatribe against steroids with next to no knowledge. You, who has abused MAG-10. You, who thinks legal steroids are safe. You, with no thought to what how the body actually responds to these chemicals and substances but only to the legality the FDA has gotten around to giving them. AT THIS POINT. You, who totally fails to acknowledge how dangerous these prohormones can be and, whatever the risks of illegal steroids are, how these are worse. Honestly, it’s like a fat, 200lb cow devouring box after box of fat-free snackwells preaching aganst the evils of dietary fat to all who would listen to her.
I know there not safe either but stop making them out to be cyanide in a bottle. 2 weeks on superdrol 7-10 days on novadex xt to let estrogen back but you will still be supressed . Part of novadex xt metabolizes to test . Then at least 3 weeks on 6-oxo to bring natural test back . Use your good natural test boosters whenever your not on . Repeat once . Use all the support supps .Don’t buy another bottle . 4 weeks total on superdrol . With 4-6 weeks in betweeen .
If you start doing AAS how many/long cycles you gonna do . [/quote]
They are worse. Real steroids. But more toxic. Just as suppressive. You are a fool if you rage against illegal steroids and don’t realize this. And someone that experiences good gains on Superdrol is just as likely return to it again and again as someone who experienced good gains on Test. Especially if they don’t do proper PCT [read nolva, clomid, etc…} after Superdrol cycle and lose all their gains. Which happens. You don’t HAVE to do proper PCT after a cycle of illegal steroids either. Many don’t. Some are ok. Many are not ok.
Just as many are decidedly NOT ok after a cycle of Superdrol or Pheraphlex with PCT of Novedex XT. Especially with a longer cycle. And how many do you think settle for a 2 week cycle. Not many. What are you waiting for? The medical community to catch up and classify these designer steroids as illegal and pronounce them as harmful as those that are currently illegal. Because they will. It’s ridiculous that you need this rubber stamp to understand it.
Pharmacologically, these prohormones are steroids. Maybe not cynadide in a bottle. I don’t think they are. But certainly dangerous and posing plenty of risks. If you are going make a blanket categorization of all illegal steroids as cyanide in a bottle or needle, then realize their chemcial cousins [so-called prohormones] are anthrax.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
budlight1 wrote:
well cardio vascular fitness is the best way to be healthy. but if you do both like many of us its great. this was also the last tiem you went to this doctor right? my doctor says its good i lift maybe your doctor is an idiot. the only thing my doctor tells me is i have a high probabilty of getting aids…real comforting doc
If you don’t mind me asking, what information does he base this pessimistic statement on?[/quote]
how many girls i have slept with in the past six months it was only 3 and he still made this big deal but using statistical information the actual chances are like 1 in 10000
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
jjay wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
JJJ, you are living in a dreamworld. I was respectful in your other post because I underestimated your ignorance. No one will be ‘ok’ on legal PCT with these prohormones because they are real steroids. Steroids with worse sides that are more liver toxic. You have some gall to go on a diatribe against steroids with next to no knowledge. You, who has abused MAG-10. You, who thinks legal steroids are safe. You, with no thought to what how the body actually responds to these chemicals and substances but only to the legality the FDA has gotten around to giving them. AT THIS POINT. You, who totally fails to acknowledge how dangerous these prohormones can be and, whatever the risks of illegal steroids are, how these are worse. Honestly, it’s like a fat, 200lb cow devouring box after box of fat-free snackwells preaching aganst the evils of dietary fat to all who would listen to her.
I know there not safe either but stop making them out to be cyanide in a bottle. 2 weeks on superdrol 7-10 days on novadex xt to let estrogen back but you will still be supressed . Part of novadex xt metabolizes to test . Then at least 3 weeks on 6-oxo to bring natural test back . Use your good natural test boosters whenever your not on . Repeat once . Use all the support supps .Don’t buy another bottle . 4 weeks total on superdrol . With 4-6 weeks in betweeen .
If you start doing AAS how many/long cycles you gonna do .
They are worse. Real steroids. But more toxic. Just as suppressive. You are a fool if you rage against illegal steroids and don’t realize this. And someone that experiences good gains on Superdrol is just as likely return to it again and again as someone who experienced good gains on Test. Especially if they don’t do proper PCT [read nolva, clomid, etc…} after Superdrol cycle and lose all their gains. Which happens. You don’t HAVE to do proper PCT after a cycle of illegal steroids either. Many don’t. Some are ok. Many are not ok.
Just as many are decidedly NOT ok after a cycle of Superdrol or Pheraphlex with PCT of Novedex XT. Especially with a longer cycle. And how many do you think settle for a 2 week cycle. Not many. What are you waiting for? The medical community to catch up and classify these designer steroids as illegal and pronounce them as harmful as those that are currently illegal. Because they will. It’s ridiculous that you need this rubber stamp to understand it.
Pharmacologically, these prohormones are steroids. Maybe not cynadide in a bottle. I don’t think they are. But certainly dangerous and posing plenty of risks. If you are going make a blanket categorization of all illegal steroids as cyanide in a bottle or needle, then realize their chemcial cousins [so-called prohormones] are anthrax.[/quote]
haha to the end of that very good analogy. and what about the old prohormones like m1t and such that are now considered steroids where they good before they became illegal and instantly became “cyanide”? at least the old prohormones acctuallly gave good gains
Oh man, have we finally seen the last of that stupid “Juicers and Lying” thread? I’ll be glad if so.
I posted this in another thread, but thought it would also be relevant here. Forgive me if my expression is not as witty or eloquent as it should be, but it’s early in the morning and my brain isn’t fully switched on just yet:
This is the point when it comes to steroids and prohormones, and I will to explain this as best I can: the medical industry is a sickness industry, not a wellness industry. This is the standard medical model: to find something wrong with the body, and use chemicals or surgery to try and correct the faulty biological mechanism. So, the only reason steroids are legally used on sick people is the same reason any drug would be approved for medical use - you have to wait until something is wrong with your body, and then that’s where doctors step in. If you’re well then you have no reason to go see a doctor, right? So does that mean that using a chemical substance out of the context of sickness is dangerous or wrong? NO. Not if you treat the substance with respect and know what you are doing. In proper moderation, you could use something to enhance creativity, enhance the body, or gain spiritual insight; just like in the older societies where they used mushrooms or certain plants (now considered illegal drugs) to heal or go on a visionary quest. Of course, the “powers that be” see any usage of a substance out of the context of sickness as being abuse.
Furthermore, I don’t know if many of you are aware of the statistics on iatrogenic diseases and deaths (iatrogenic = caused by a doctor), but they are alarmingly high, especially in the Western nations. So, we could even say that doctors are dangerous! Personally, I’ve never liked going to the doctor, and I only go when I absolutely have to. My body can heal itself in most cases. All they can really do is ensure that the process is happening the way it should.
Therefore, my point of view is that steroids should not only be used on sick people. Why not base our medical operations on wellness instead of sickness; to make people feel good or better, instead of only waiting until something is seriously wrong. But, with the current medical model, no drug is approved for enhancement or betterment of a person.
Why, to enhance yourself or your body, the only approved thing you can do is spend thousands of dollars on plastic surgery. Patient: “Yeah doc, something is wrong with my penis, it’s not big enough.” Doctor: “Okay then, we can slice here and here, and transfer this piece here, to make it bigger.” Patient: “Doc, my chest/calves are not big enough.” Doctor: “Okay, we can pump them full of silicone by sticking in some implants.”
Forget about enhancing yourself by exercise and working out at the gym, or even using androgenic/anabolic hormones to make the process work better and faster, because that’s too dangerous; but it’s okay and safer to cut the body open and stick something artificial into it !? I say it’s ridiculous. But many people are so dogmatic about the point of views they have been fed.
If you look at the big picture, and delve below the surface, you can see the truth about at what’s really going on, and there is a lot of bullshit, misinformation and propaganda that has been happening for ages. Most of the sheeple (like jjay) fall for this, but those who are aware can see through it.
that was perfect. this thread is over
[quote]budlight1 wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
jjay wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
JJJ, you are living in a dreamworld. I was respectful in your other post because I underestimated your ignorance. No one will be ‘ok’ on legal PCT with these prohormones because they are real steroids. Steroids with worse sides that are more liver toxic. You have some gall to go on a diatribe against steroids with next to no knowledge. You, who has abused MAG-10. You, who thinks legal steroids are safe. You, with no thought to what how the body actually responds to these chemicals and substances but only to the legality the FDA has gotten around to giving them. AT THIS POINT. You, who totally fails to acknowledge how dangerous these prohormones can be and, whatever the risks of illegal steroids are, how these are worse. Honestly, it’s like a fat, 200lb cow devouring box after box of fat-free snackwells preaching aganst the evils of dietary fat to all who would listen to her.
I know there not safe either but stop making them out to be cyanide in a bottle. 2 weeks on superdrol 7-10 days on novadex xt to let estrogen back but you will still be supressed . Part of novadex xt metabolizes to test . Then at least 3 weeks on 6-oxo to bring natural test back . Use your good natural test boosters whenever your not on . Repeat once . Use all the support supps .Don’t buy another bottle . 4 weeks total on superdrol . With 4-6 weeks in betweeen .
If you start doing AAS how many/long cycles you gonna do .
They are worse. Real steroids. But more toxic. Just as suppressive. You are a fool if you rage against illegal steroids and don’t realize this. And someone that experiences good gains on Superdrol is just as likely return to it again and again as someone who experienced good gains on Test. Especially if they don’t do proper PCT [read nolva, clomid, etc…} after Superdrol cycle and lose all their gains. Which happens. You don’t HAVE to do proper PCT after a cycle of illegal steroids either. Many don’t. Some are ok. Many are not ok.
Just as many are decidedly NOT ok after a cycle of Superdrol or Pheraphlex with PCT of Novedex XT. Especially with a longer cycle. And how many do you think settle for a 2 week cycle. Not many. What are you waiting for? The medical community to catch up and classify these designer steroids as illegal and pronounce them as harmful as those that are currently illegal. Because they will. It’s ridiculous that you need this rubber stamp to understand it.
Pharmacologically, these prohormones are steroids. Maybe not cynadide in a bottle. I don’t think they are. But certainly dangerous and posing plenty of risks. If you are going make a blanket categorization of all illegal steroids as cyanide in a bottle or needle, then realize their chemcial cousins [so-called prohormones] are anthrax.
haha to the end of that very good analogy. and what about the old prohormones like m1t and such that are now considered steroids where they good before they became illegal and instantly became “cyanide”? at least the old prohormones acctuallly gave good gains[/quote]
Yes, they did. But as far as I’m concerned MAG-10 was one of very few prohormones where users weren’t really ill-advised if they didn’t do proper PCT. Even with MAG-10, some people have reported sexual issues when only following a 2-week cycle with something like Alpha Male.
[quote]budlight1 wrote:
that was perfect. this thread is over[/quote]
Yes. Let it be.
Bullshit ! Ive used m1t and now it is gone so yes that was safer then AAS. If I had started doing AAS back then Instead of the m1t I would likly still be doing it .
GET IT !!!
[quote]jjay wrote:
Bullshit ! Ive used m1t and now it is gone so yes that was safer then AAS. If I had started doing AAS back then Instead of the m1t I would likly still be doing it .
GET IT !!![/quote]
Ummm…m1t is an AAS. Duhhhhhh
“Methyl 1-testosterone, or 17aa-1-testosterone, is the methylated version of the steroid 1-testosterone”
[quote]jjay wrote:
Bullshit ! Ive used m1t and now it is gone so yes that was safer then AAS. If I had started doing AAS back then Instead of the m1t I would likly still be doing it .
GET IT !!![/quote]
yo you are an idiot you know absoutley nothing. m1t is one of the worst steroids available. why would u keep doing aas? its called self control. i know plenty of kids that have done mroe than 5 cycles of m1t. why do you think you wont keep doing steroids. didnt you say you have done MAG-10 and m1t so you have done steroids twice already at least. what other steroids have you done… and everyone else look at what he pmed me
"I did not fuck up a cycle of MAG-10 . My post about it got edited of course. Don’t take no more shots at me douche bag . Rainjack is a stupid hick . He tries to quote information he’s read but it meands nothing . He is to dumb to put it toghether . "
haha dont make fun of me boo hoo. jjay you need to read something how old are you 14. whats your stats you should be like 220 at least after all those steroids
[quote]jjay wrote:
Bullshit ! Ive used m1t and now it is gone so yes that was safer then AAS. If I had started doing AAS back then Instead of the m1t I would likly still be doing it .
GET IT !!![/quote]
Just when I think he can’t be any more stump-headed, ejjjjjjjjjaculate proves that I have no clue as to the depths of his stupidity.
Ok so this thread is no longer even related to the original post, and is now off topic from my hijack (sorry dude. Kill it, kill it now.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Just when I think he can’t be any more stump-headed, ejjjjjjjjjaculate proves that I have no clue as to the depths of his stupidity. [/quote]
I kinda want “jjjjjackoff” to keep talking to see just how many j insults rainjack can come up with. This is really keeping me entertained.
this thread should now be called jjay abuses steroids and doesnt know casue he is ignorant and in denial. jjay you have a problem you should stop this before it becomes even more of a habit. all the steroids you do are going to kill you.
If he dies we have to wait for the next idiot to come along. Hopefully they make him sterile, and the world is saved from future harassment.
[quote]budlight1 wrote:
this thread should now be called jjay abuses steroids and doesnt know casue he is ignorant and in denial. jjay you have a problem you should stop this before it becomes even more of a habit. all the steroids you do are going to kill you.[/quote]
So please go buy the tested and FDA approved ones that Budlight1’s company makes.
(Kidding! It’s just a joke.)
haha…iv’e taken m1t i dont care if it has been tested or not. i jsut hate when people think they know so much and are aganist something they know nothing about. ignorance annoys me