Leaving the Binge Drinking Buddies Behind

[quote]TheJonty wrote:
I was a solid binge drinker, but haven’t had a sip of alcohol in just over two years. All the friends I used to get drunk with have been nothing but supportive, especially as time went on and it became clear that this wasn’t a temporary thing. That either says a lot about the quality of my friends, or a lot about how little control I had over my drinking.

I’m going with a mix of both. Any friend who’s not supportive of you making positive changes in your life, well, to use lanky’s analogy, they’re anchors and need to be cut loose.[/quote]

this mirrors my experience too.

My mates love to get all fucked up on drink and drugs, and I used to be all for it too but as I’ve gotten a little older I just really can’t handle it anymore, and I feel much better in my day to day life when I’m not constantly recovering from my weekend antics.

I still cut loose every now and then, and yeah that sometimes means I drink way more than I should, but that’s really only ever on things like stag do’s, weddings etc.

My mates still drink and abuse themselves as much as they always have, and it has not affected our friendship one bit. They respect my decision to stay sober and I respect their decision to get wasted. I might not spend quite as much time with them as I used to (growing up sucks) but they will always be my mates.

At different times in life you need to change the facets which you put emphasis on. Socializing in a boozed up environ is like training wheels. Now that you are established professionally put some emphasis on your social life minus the training wheels.

Getting out of your comfort zone and doing things differently isn’t always easy though. You’ll definitely find out which parts of your personality have gotten a little rusty or may be a bit lacking.

[quote]theBird wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:]

If it’s any consolation I stopped drinking a few months before I turned 18, and I haven’t come even remotely close to having sex with anyone in almost two years.

#SoberBeta4lyf[/quote]

That’s because you like Star Trek.

Nerd.

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Star Wars is better bro, fite me irl.

(P.S: Real men play Rugby.)

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]theBird wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:]

If it’s any consolation I stopped drinking a few months before I turned 18, and I haven’t come even remotely close to having sex with anyone in almost two years.

#SoberBeta4lyf[/quote]

That’s because you like Star Trek.

Nerd.

tweet[/quote]

Star Wars is better bro, fite me irl.

(P.S: Real men play Rugby.)[/quote]

I don’t fight virgins irl.

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[quote]theBird wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]theBird wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:]

If it’s any consolation I stopped drinking a few months before I turned 18, and I haven’t come even remotely close to having sex with anyone in almost two years.

#SoberBeta4lyf[/quote]

That’s because you like Star Trek.

Nerd.

tweet[/quote]

Star Wars is better bro, fite me irl.

(P.S: Real men play Rugby.)[/quote]

I don’t fight virgins irl.

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Not a virgin, just incredibly reclusive due to a huge lack of common ground. Can’t really bear being around the girls I grew up with, nor most of the ones I’ve met since.

It’s almost like alcohol was my means of tolerance and conformity, and now that’s gone I’m left to reside in my own solitary interests and endeavours.

Going to tell you my whole life story out of spite.

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
At different times in life you need to change the facets which you put emphasis on. Socializing in a boozed up environ is like training wheels. Now that you are established professionally put some emphasis on your social life minus the training wheels.

Getting out of your comfort zone and doing things differently isn’t always easy though. You’ll definitely find out which parts of your personality have gotten a little rusty or may be a bit lacking.
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Thanks for the great advice. The training wheels comparison makes a lot of sense. As someone who was a major loner with no social skills prior to 21, alcohol did give me some much-needed experience with socialization and women. In the present-day, I feel like I’m almost as confident sober in social situations and much less sloppy.

[quote]peterlotus wrote:

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
At different times in life you need to change the facets which you put emphasis on. Socializing in a boozed up environ is like training wheels. Now that you are established professionally put some emphasis on your social life minus the training wheels.

Getting out of your comfort zone and doing things differently isn’t always easy though. You’ll definitely find out which parts of your personality have gotten a little rusty or may be a bit lacking.
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Thanks for the great advice. The training wheels comparison makes a lot of sense. As someone who was a major loner with no social skills prior to 21, alcohol did give me some much-needed experience with socialization and women. In the present-day, I feel like I’m almost as confident sober in social situations and much less sloppy.[/quote]

You’re welcome. I have encountered similar obstacles and could recognize some of the stuff you were describing.

It gets easier pretty quickly. I’ll never be a social butterfly by any stretch, but even last night I walked into a foreign social circle (wifes friends from work) and was able to get a few laughs, warm up to the people and become a comfortable part of it without any problems.

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]harrypotter wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]harrypotter wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Places to meet women:

literally anywhere on planet Earth.[/quote]

Places that you can readily pick women up and fuck them…

Alcohol makes everything easy. If you want to pick women up during the day you’re looking at too much time invested for what little reward you have. Same for online dating, its a crock of shit.

OP: stop boozing, you’ll look like shit if you keep it up. I agree with the risk thing.[/quote]

If you can’t easily pick up girls during the day or on online dating(fishing with dynamite) you are doing it wrong. [/quote]

I talk to women during the day and yes I’ve got numbers but doing it just to get laid on a constant basis? What am I? Some Roosh wannabe? I’ve got more important things to do than waste my time, besides I have shagged enough easy sluts to know that it isn’t worth it past the lay.

Oh and if you’re saying online dating is a fish-in-a-barrel, maybe if you’re into fat, ugly or braindead women. The ones who are decent dont meet up and if they had intentions of doing so all the thirsty guys drown you out.[/quote]

Maybe you are not attractive? Don’t mean that as an insult. I almost got addicted to those sites it was so easy. Seriously, not boasting, lots of lonely, vulnerable and insecure attractive women on those things. The pay ones at least.
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Since when did me stating the reality of online dating makes me insecure about how I look? I never said the sites were not easy, the women who are easy fall into the following categories;

  • Desperate for attention (big ego train on this)
  • Fat, ugly but because a lot of men can be so desperate they can get laid
  • Nymphos - Bisexuals without the superiority complex fall into this category
  • Average chicks out for a good time
  • Older/much older women

Once you know how to fish for these women your notch count goes up. However I want quality these days and these sites do not offer it.

[quote]optheta wrote:
I love every thread on T-Nation in regards to women, everybody on T-Nation is a poon slayer with a 8inch dick and swole ass fuck and good looking motherfcker.

IM MAD JELLY BROS.

At least guys like Orion give substantive discussion in regards to game, rest of you guys just post how awesome you are at slaying pussy buahahaha.[/quote]

8" isn’t special cupcake. Looks dont matter as much as you think. Girls get really insecure with big, ripped men. The best possible weight range for women who like ripped guys is 220-230lbs.

Orion reads too much of Roosh’ manosphere bullshit and applies it to every female he meets, because like Roosh he is into fast women and little understanding of them outside of getting the notch.

My dad knew about this stuff as a man in the 60s and he knew it was now in the mainstream thanks to the internet and books.

He told me that I should actually see, hear and interact with women and then read up the stuff online. The majority of it is horse shit outside of the basics. Men who are able to get sex with women without using mind games are much happier in the long run and dont dwell on game. They just do what they want to do.

[Quote]8" isn’t special.

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i know a bunch of sluts who would beg to differ…

[quote]harrypotter wrote:

Orion reads too much of Roosh’ manosphere bullshit and applies it to every female he meets, because like Roosh he is into fast women and little understanding of them outside of getting the notch.
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Orion does not read much Roosh at all.

You are just trying to build yourself a NAWALT escape hatch.

Good luck with that.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]harrypotter wrote:

Orion reads too much of Roosh’ manosphere bullshit and applies it to every female he meets, because like Roosh he is into fast women and little understanding of them outside of getting the notch.
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Orion does not read much Roosh at all.

You are just trying to build yourself a NAWALT escape hatch.

Good luck with that.[/quote]

Read a post of mine where I refer to situations over 4-5 weeks involving women who had bfs/husbands and other men on their radar but they still slept with me.

I dont build myself imaginary things based upon what i read on the internet, I go and find them myself.

There has only been 2 women I have this so called NAWALT escape hatch you refer too. However you may not read roosh, you certainly know the jargon resembling the game stuff. I had to google it to even know what it means.

[quote]theBird wrote:

That’s because you like Star Trek.

Nerd.

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