If you had to pick between learning one of these two languages what would it be and why?
LOL do you expect us to believe you are really capable of learning either.
I’d rather learn Cantonese as opposed to Mandarin, so I’d pick Russian based solely on that even though I’d realistically do both (all three even). Difficult to choose for any stringent reason. Lots of lame reasons.
[quote]theuofh wrote:
LOL do you expect us to believe you are really capable of learning either. [/quote]
That was mean dude
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]theuofh wrote:
LOL do you expect us to believe you are really capable of learning either. [/quote]
That was mean dude[/quote]
Hardly I’ve heard better quips from 12 year olds, anyways why Cantonese as opposed to Mandarin?
Mandarin is the standard language of the Chinese speaking world and population. Cantonese is only spoken in Hong Kong. It would depend on your reasons and your subsequent use.
I’m into learning languages myself, although I’ve gotten a little lazy with it recently because of school. I’m studying German, a little Arabic, Hindi and Urdu, and want to get started on Spanish, French, and Russian very soon. My ultimate goal is to become a polyglot, and so I might be able to give you some advice. How good are you at picking up languages? The reason I ask is, for me, it luckily comes very easily/naturally, whereas for others, they struggle. It is definitely possible to study both at the same time, since they’re very different languages and the chance of mixing them up is significantly less than, say, learning Italian and Spanish simultaneously. But, if that’s too difficult to do, then maybe I can help you choose. Answer these questions:
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Which language do YOU want to learn? Ultimately, it comes down to your motivation. Someone else can’t convince you to learn a language, otherwise you’ll never stick with it! If you enjoy the language, then it’ll make the learning process much easier/more enjoyable.
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What are your goals? Why Chinese and/or Russian? Is it for mind expansion/self-interest? Is it to increase your chances for landing a job? What are you trying to get out of this, because it takes a years and years to excel at a language, just like for anything else.
Search this site for advice on learning both languages. If you search, you can find free resources for basically any language. http://www.reddit.com/r/languagelearning/ … http://www.reddit.com/r/languagelearning/comments/gt1t7/a_compilation_of_language_learning_resources/
Good luck and keep me posted!
[quote]gonepostal wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]theuofh wrote:
LOL do you expect us to believe you are really capable of learning either. [/quote]
That was mean dude[/quote]
Hardly I’ve heard better quips from 12 year olds, anyways why Cantonese as opposed to Mandarin?[/quote]
Just personal preference. Nothing to do with usefulness. I just figure it would be a more satisfying conquest on my person, but like I said, if I didn’t have to choose, I’d just go with all three.
[quote]yvanehtnioj wrote:
I’m into learning languages myself, although I’ve gotten a little lazy with it recently because of school. I’m studying German, a little Arabic, Hindi and Urdu, and want to get started on Spanish, French, and Russian very soon. My ultimate goal is to become a polyglot, and so I might be able to give you some advice. How good are you at picking up languages? The reason I ask is, for me, it luckily comes very easily/naturally, whereas for others, they struggle. It is definitely possible to study both at the same time, since they’re very different languages and the chance of mixing them up is significantly less than, say, learning Italian and Spanish simultaneously. But, if that’s too difficult to do, then maybe I can help you choose. Answer these questions:
-
Which language do YOU want to learn? Ultimately, it comes down to your motivation. Someone else can’t convince you to learn a language, otherwise you’ll never stick with it! If you enjoy the language, then it’ll make the learning process much easier/more enjoyable.
-
What are your goals? Why Chinese and/or Russian? Is it for mind expansion/self-interest? Is it to increase your chances for landing a job? What are you trying to get out of this, because it takes a years and years to excel at a language, just like for anything else.
Search this site for advice on learning both languages. If you search, you can find free resources for basically any language. http://www.reddit.com/r/languagelearning/ … http://www.reddit.com/r/languagelearning/comments/gt1t7/a_compilation_of_language_learning_resources/
Good luck and keep me posted![/quote]
I feel comfortable and confident learning one language but I am not ready to try two at a time. Right now it’s mostly self interest driving me. I think both of them would be interesting to learn, but I think I would have more fun with Russian. That being said if I am going to invest the time to learn a language I’d like it to carry some weight on a resume or something of that nature. I feel that Mandarin would be more logical choice for that reason.
[quote]gonepostal wrote:
[quote]yvanehtnioj wrote:
I’m into learning languages myself, although I’ve gotten a little lazy with it recently because of school. I’m studying German, a little Arabic, Hindi and Urdu, and want to get started on Spanish, French, and Russian very soon. My ultimate goal is to become a polyglot, and so I might be able to give you some advice. How good are you at picking up languages? The reason I ask is, for me, it luckily comes very easily/naturally, whereas for others, they struggle. It is definitely possible to study both at the same time, since they’re very different languages and the chance of mixing them up is significantly less than, say, learning Italian and Spanish simultaneously. But, if that’s too difficult to do, then maybe I can help you choose. Answer these questions:
-
Which language do YOU want to learn? Ultimately, it comes down to your motivation. Someone else can’t convince you to learn a language, otherwise you’ll never stick with it! If you enjoy the language, then it’ll make the learning process much easier/more enjoyable.
-
What are your goals? Why Chinese and/or Russian? Is it for mind expansion/self-interest? Is it to increase your chances for landing a job? What are you trying to get out of this, because it takes a years and years to excel at a language, just like for anything else.
Search this site for advice on learning both languages. If you search, you can find free resources for basically any language. http://www.reddit.com/r/languagelearning/ … http://www.reddit.com/r/languagelearning/comments/gt1t7/a_compilation_of_language_learning_resources/
Good luck and keep me posted![/quote]
I feel comfortable and confident learning one language but I am not ready to try two at a time. Right now it’s mostly self interest driving me. I think both of them would be interesting to learn, but I think I would have more fun with Russian. That being said if I am going to invest the time to learn a language I’d like it to carry some weight on a resume or something of that nature. I feel that Mandarin would be more logical choice for that reason.
[/quote]
That’s fine, and this may be a bit contradictory to my previous post, but I really do think you can learn both at the same time. People underestimate what they’re capable of. Not trying to sound patronizing and I’m not accusing you of that either, but that’s how many people are. You don’t have to spend a ridiculous amount of time on studying, as you can cover quite a bit ground with 30-60 minutes four times a week (sound familiar?). Even in just fifteen minutes a day you can do quite a bit. Multiply 15 minutes x 365 days, and you’ll really surprise yourself at how much you learn. Just my suggestions.
[quote]yvanehtnioj wrote:
[quote]gonepostal wrote:
[quote]yvanehtnioj wrote:
I’m into learning languages myself, although I’ve gotten a little lazy with it recently because of school. I’m studying German, a little Arabic, Hindi and Urdu, and want to get started on Spanish, French, and Russian very soon. My ultimate goal is to become a polyglot, and so I might be able to give you some advice. How good are you at picking up languages? The reason I ask is, for me, it luckily comes very easily/naturally, whereas for others, they struggle. It is definitely possible to study both at the same time, since they’re very different languages and the chance of mixing them up is significantly less than, say, learning Italian and Spanish simultaneously. But, if that’s too difficult to do, then maybe I can help you choose. Answer these questions:
-
Which language do YOU want to learn? Ultimately, it comes down to your motivation. Someone else can’t convince you to learn a language, otherwise you’ll never stick with it! If you enjoy the language, then it’ll make the learning process much easier/more enjoyable.
-
What are your goals? Why Chinese and/or Russian? Is it for mind expansion/self-interest? Is it to increase your chances for landing a job? What are you trying to get out of this, because it takes a years and years to excel at a language, just like for anything else.
Search this site for advice on learning both languages. If you search, you can find free resources for basically any language. http://www.reddit.com/r/languagelearning/ … http://www.reddit.com/r/languagelearning/comments/gt1t7/a_compilation_of_language_learning_resources/
Good luck and keep me posted![/quote]
I feel comfortable and confident learning one language but I am not ready to try two at a time. Right now it’s mostly self interest driving me. I think both of them would be interesting to learn, but I think I would have more fun with Russian. That being said if I am going to invest the time to learn a language I’d like it to carry some weight on a resume or something of that nature. I feel that Mandarin would be more logical choice for that reason.
[/quote]
That’s fine, and this may be a bit contradictory to my previous post, but I really do think you can learn both at the same time. People underestimate what they’re capable of. Not trying to sound patronizing and I’m not accusing you of that either, but that’s how many people are. You don’t have to spend a ridiculous amount of time on studying, as you can cover quite a bit ground with 30-60 minutes four times a week (sound familiar?). Even in just fifteen minutes a day you can do quite a bit. Multiply 15 minutes x 365 days, and you’ll really surprise yourself at how much you learn. Just my suggestions.[/quote]
Just make sure you put yourself outside your comfort zone. Nothing will replace the solidification you’ll get from applying what you learn and learning respectively in a natural setting i.e. communicating with native speakers (it’s best that don’t speak fluent English for complete authenticity).
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]yvanehtnioj wrote:
[quote]gonepostal wrote:
[quote]yvanehtnioj wrote:
I’m into learning languages myself, although I’ve gotten a little lazy with it recently because of school. I’m studying German, a little Arabic, Hindi and Urdu, and want to get started on Spanish, French, and Russian very soon. My ultimate goal is to become a polyglot, and so I might be able to give you some advice. How good are you at picking up languages? The reason I ask is, for me, it luckily comes very easily/naturally, whereas for others, they struggle. It is definitely possible to study both at the same time, since they’re very different languages and the chance of mixing them up is significantly less than, say, learning Italian and Spanish simultaneously. But, if that’s too difficult to do, then maybe I can help you choose. Answer these questions:
-
Which language do YOU want to learn? Ultimately, it comes down to your motivation. Someone else can’t convince you to learn a language, otherwise you’ll never stick with it! If you enjoy the language, then it’ll make the learning process much easier/more enjoyable.
-
What are your goals? Why Chinese and/or Russian? Is it for mind expansion/self-interest? Is it to increase your chances for landing a job? What are you trying to get out of this, because it takes a years and years to excel at a language, just like for anything else.
Search this site for advice on learning both languages. If you search, you can find free resources for basically any language. http://www.reddit.com/r/languagelearning/ … http://www.reddit.com/r/languagelearning/comments/gt1t7/a_compilation_of_language_learning_resources/
Good luck and keep me posted![/quote]
I feel comfortable and confident learning one language but I am not ready to try two at a time. Right now it’s mostly self interest driving me. I think both of them would be interesting to learn, but I think I would have more fun with Russian. That being said if I am going to invest the time to learn a language I’d like it to carry some weight on a resume or something of that nature. I feel that Mandarin would be more logical choice for that reason.
[/quote]
That’s fine, and this may be a bit contradictory to my previous post, but I really do think you can learn both at the same time. People underestimate what they’re capable of. Not trying to sound patronizing and I’m not accusing you of that either, but that’s how many people are. You don’t have to spend a ridiculous amount of time on studying, as you can cover quite a bit ground with 30-60 minutes four times a week (sound familiar?). Even in just fifteen minutes a day you can do quite a bit. Multiply 15 minutes x 365 days, and you’ll really surprise yourself at how much you learn. Just my suggestions.[/quote]
Just make sure you put yourself outside your comfort zone. Nothing will replace the solidification you’ll get from applying what you learn and learning respectively in a natural setting i.e. communicating with native speakers (it’s best that don’t speak fluent English).
[/quote]
Absolutely. That’s what I was getting at with my post. I look like an idiot in front of my German professor and it can get uncomfortable often, especially when he points out all the mistakes, but I really do enjoy it. That’s how you learn. Preaching to the choir here though. By the way, great job on your lifting accomplishments so far. I was lurking your log and enjoyed reading it. (hint: update your log)
[quote]yvanehtnioj wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]yvanehtnioj wrote:
[quote]gonepostal wrote:
[quote]yvanehtnioj wrote:
I’m into learning languages myself, although I’ve gotten a little lazy with it recently because of school. I’m studying German, a little Arabic, Hindi and Urdu, and want to get started on Spanish, French, and Russian very soon. My ultimate goal is to become a polyglot, and so I might be able to give you some advice. How good are you at picking up languages? The reason I ask is, for me, it luckily comes very easily/naturally, whereas for others, they struggle. It is definitely possible to study both at the same time, since they’re very different languages and the chance of mixing them up is significantly less than, say, learning Italian and Spanish simultaneously. But, if that’s too difficult to do, then maybe I can help you choose. Answer these questions:
-
Which language do YOU want to learn? Ultimately, it comes down to your motivation. Someone else can’t convince you to learn a language, otherwise you’ll never stick with it! If you enjoy the language, then it’ll make the learning process much easier/more enjoyable.
-
What are your goals? Why Chinese and/or Russian? Is it for mind expansion/self-interest? Is it to increase your chances for landing a job? What are you trying to get out of this, because it takes a years and years to excel at a language, just like for anything else.
Search this site for advice on learning both languages. If you search, you can find free resources for basically any language. http://www.reddit.com/r/languagelearning/ … http://www.reddit.com/r/languagelearning/comments/gt1t7/a_compilation_of_language_learning_resources/
Good luck and keep me posted![/quote]
I feel comfortable and confident learning one language but I am not ready to try two at a time. Right now it’s mostly self interest driving me. I think both of them would be interesting to learn, but I think I would have more fun with Russian. That being said if I am going to invest the time to learn a language I’d like it to carry some weight on a resume or something of that nature. I feel that Mandarin would be more logical choice for that reason.
[/quote]
That’s fine, and this may be a bit contradictory to my previous post, but I really do think you can learn both at the same time. People underestimate what they’re capable of. Not trying to sound patronizing and I’m not accusing you of that either, but that’s how many people are. You don’t have to spend a ridiculous amount of time on studying, as you can cover quite a bit ground with 30-60 minutes four times a week (sound familiar?). Even in just fifteen minutes a day you can do quite a bit. Multiply 15 minutes x 365 days, and you’ll really surprise yourself at how much you learn. Just my suggestions.[/quote]
Just make sure you put yourself outside your comfort zone. Nothing will replace the solidification you’ll get from applying what you learn and learning respectively in a natural setting i.e. communicating with native speakers (it’s best that don’t speak fluent English).
[/quote]
Absolutely. That’s what I was getting at with my post. I look like an idiot in front of my German professor and it can get uncomfortable often, especially when he points out all the mistakes, but I really do enjoy it. That’s how you learn. Preaching to the choir here though. By the way, great job on your lifting accomplishments so far. I was lurking your log and enjoyed reading it. (hint: update your log)
[/quote]
Thanks. Once I become better, I will.
[quote]gonepostal wrote:
[quote]yvanehtnioj wrote:
I’m into learning languages myself, although I’ve gotten a little lazy with it recently because of school. I’m studying German, a little Arabic, Hindi and Urdu, and want to get started on Spanish, French, and Russian very soon. My ultimate goal is to become a polyglot, and so I might be able to give you some advice. How good are you at picking up languages? The reason I ask is, for me, it luckily comes very easily/naturally, whereas for others, they struggle. It is definitely possible to study both at the same time, since they’re very different languages and the chance of mixing them up is significantly less than, say, learning Italian and Spanish simultaneously. But, if that’s too difficult to do, then maybe I can help you choose. Answer these questions:
-
Which language do YOU want to learn? Ultimately, it comes down to your motivation. Someone else can’t convince you to learn a language, otherwise you’ll never stick with it! If you enjoy the language, then it’ll make the learning process much easier/more enjoyable.
-
What are your goals? Why Chinese and/or Russian? Is it for mind expansion/self-interest? Is it to increase your chances for landing a job? What are you trying to get out of this, because it takes a years and years to excel at a language, just like for anything else.
Search this site for advice on learning both languages. If you search, you can find free resources for basically any language. http://www.reddit.com/r/languagelearning/ … http://www.reddit.com/r/languagelearning/comments/gt1t7/a_compilation_of_language_learning_resources/
Good luck and keep me posted![/quote]
I feel comfortable and confident learning one language but I am not ready to try two at a time. Right now it’s mostly self interest driving me. I think both of them would be interesting to learn, but I think I would have more fun with Russian. That being said if I am going to invest the time to learn a language I’d like it to carry some weight on a resume or something of that nature. I feel that Mandarin would be more logical choice for that reason.
[/quote]
Learn the language you are more interested in.
Learning language for work only applies if you’re willing to work in that country. There are non-Chinese people in China with impeccable Mandarin and I assume this exists in Russia also.
Cantonese is a dialect of Chinese it is spoken outside of Hong Kong widely (Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Australia and I’m sure parts of the USA).
Learning a language in adult life is greatly hampered by not being able to practise daily, basically to the point where you can’t buy food without being able to speak the language. So if you REALLY want to do it correctly, move there! My sister and another high school friend are learning Swedish now but they live in Sweden.
Also with moving to these countries the better developed/commercial cities you can still get away with English so consider moving to the city where English is less spoken (Beijing, Hanoi, Osaka, you get the idea).
[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:
[quote]gonepostal wrote:
[quote]yvanehtnioj wrote:
I’m into learning languages myself, although I’ve gotten a little lazy with it recently because of school. I’m studying German, a little Arabic, Hindi and Urdu, and want to get started on Spanish, French, and Russian very soon. My ultimate goal is to become a polyglot, and so I might be able to give you some advice. How good are you at picking up languages? The reason I ask is, for me, it luckily comes very easily/naturally, whereas for others, they struggle. It is definitely possible to study both at the same time, since they’re very different languages and the chance of mixing them up is significantly less than, say, learning Italian and Spanish simultaneously. But, if that’s too difficult to do, then maybe I can help you choose. Answer these questions:
-
Which language do YOU want to learn? Ultimately, it comes down to your motivation. Someone else can’t convince you to learn a language, otherwise you’ll never stick with it! If you enjoy the language, then it’ll make the learning process much easier/more enjoyable.
-
What are your goals? Why Chinese and/or Russian? Is it for mind expansion/self-interest? Is it to increase your chances for landing a job? What are you trying to get out of this, because it takes a years and years to excel at a language, just like for anything else.
Search this site for advice on learning both languages. If you search, you can find free resources for basically any language. http://www.reddit.com/r/languagelearning/ … http://www.reddit.com/r/languagelearning/comments/gt1t7/a_compilation_of_language_learning_resources/
Good luck and keep me posted![/quote]
I feel comfortable and confident learning one language but I am not ready to try two at a time. Right now it’s mostly self interest driving me. I think both of them would be interesting to learn, but I think I would have more fun with Russian. That being said if I am going to invest the time to learn a language I’d like it to carry some weight on a resume or something of that nature. I feel that Mandarin would be more logical choice for that reason.
[/quote]
Learn the language you are more interested in.
Learning language for work only applies if you’re willing to work in that country. There are non-Chinese people in China with impeccable Mandarin and I assume this exists in Russia also.
Cantonese is a dialect of Chinese it is spoken outside of Hong Kong widely (Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Australia and I’m sure parts of the USA).
Learning a language in adult life is greatly hampered by not being able to practise daily, basically to the point where you can’t buy food without being able to speak the language. So if you REALLY want to do it correctly, move there! My sister and another high school friend are learning Swedish now but they live in Sweden.
Also with moving to these countries the better developed/commercial cities you can still get away with English so consider moving to the city where English is less spoken (Beijing, Hanoi, Osaka, you get the idea).[/quote]
Pluuuuus … all the puss just craving some 'murican dick
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:
[quote]gonepostal wrote:
[quote]yvanehtnioj wrote:
I’m into learning languages myself, although I’ve gotten a little lazy with it recently because of school. I’m studying German, a little Arabic, Hindi and Urdu, and want to get started on Spanish, French, and Russian very soon. My ultimate goal is to become a polyglot, and so I might be able to give you some advice. How good are you at picking up languages? The reason I ask is, for me, it luckily comes very easily/naturally, whereas for others, they struggle. It is definitely possible to study both at the same time, since they’re very different languages and the chance of mixing them up is significantly less than, say, learning Italian and Spanish simultaneously. But, if that’s too difficult to do, then maybe I can help you choose. Answer these questions:
-
Which language do YOU want to learn? Ultimately, it comes down to your motivation. Someone else can’t convince you to learn a language, otherwise you’ll never stick with it! If you enjoy the language, then it’ll make the learning process much easier/more enjoyable.
-
What are your goals? Why Chinese and/or Russian? Is it for mind expansion/self-interest? Is it to increase your chances for landing a job? What are you trying to get out of this, because it takes a years and years to excel at a language, just like for anything else.
Search this site for advice on learning both languages. If you search, you can find free resources for basically any language. http://www.reddit.com/r/languagelearning/ … http://www.reddit.com/r/languagelearning/comments/gt1t7/a_compilation_of_language_learning_resources/
Good luck and keep me posted![/quote]
I feel comfortable and confident learning one language but I am not ready to try two at a time. Right now it’s mostly self interest driving me. I think both of them would be interesting to learn, but I think I would have more fun with Russian. That being said if I am going to invest the time to learn a language I’d like it to carry some weight on a resume or something of that nature. I feel that Mandarin would be more logical choice for that reason.
[/quote]
Learn the language you are more interested in.
Learning language for work only applies if you’re willing to work in that country. There are non-Chinese people in China with impeccable Mandarin and I assume this exists in Russia also.
Cantonese is a dialect of Chinese it is spoken outside of Hong Kong widely (Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Australia and I’m sure parts of the USA).
Learning a language in adult life is greatly hampered by not being able to practise daily, basically to the point where you can’t buy food without being able to speak the language. So if you REALLY want to do it correctly, move there! My sister and another high school friend are learning Swedish now but they live in Sweden.
Also with moving to these countries the better developed/commercial cities you can still get away with English so consider moving to the city where English is less spoken (Beijing, Hanoi, Osaka, you get the idea).[/quote]
Pluuuuus … all the puss just craving some 'murican dick[/quote]
LOL
lol Good stuff.
I took three years of Japanese in college, definitely going to be hell of a lot easier on you if you immerse yourself in a place where you have to speak the language.
Learn Italian,Spanish or French-every other language on the planet sounds pretty much disgusting in their own different ways.
Personally, I would opt for Arabic over Russian or Mandarin. Or possibly Farsi. I think The Count will concur.