Kyle Rittenhouse Trial and the Law of Self-Defense

Jurors don’t really know the law. They are supposed to be your peers. But, I do not think there is any question that the protests, the specter of violence and all that shit is weighing heavily on their minds.
Sure the jury is issued instructions, don’t talk about the case, don’t discuss the evidence, blah, blah, blah… You know damn well the first thing most of those jurors do is go home and talk about with their friends and family. They watch the news all that crap.
Think about being on that jury, knowing that your thumbs up or thumbs down is potentially a fatal spark for that city, for their communities and for their own safety.
Does anyone believe that there are not outside influences on those jurors? Where someone in their circle isn’t begging them to vote the kid guilty because they are afraid of what will happen if their identities are revealed, left-wing radicals will go after them?

Think about it. Do you do what’s right in the law? Or do you protect yourself from mob violence? This jury should have been sequestered. The stakes are too high. The sequestered the Casey Anthony jury and the environment had no where near the tension this one has.
One thing I do know is juries are unpredictable in high profile cases. Often what they are considering, does not square with what outsiders think they are considering. So I am not drawing any conclusions based on their behavior. The only thing I will deign to guess is that there are a couple of stubborn people on that jury who are stuck on their verdict and won’t be swayed.

Of course you do. The kid had two options, fight or die. Even the prosecution suggested be would have just been better off a victim. They actually might be right. For what this kid faces in the near term is a fate perhaps worse than death, despite the verdict.
But if he were a victim, nobody would know his name. Nobody would care and most certainly most people wouldn’t know it even happened because the media covered for the violence to an incredible degree.
32 Homicide deaths as a result of the 2020 riots. And the only person on trial for any of them is Kyle Rittenhouse. Gee, I wonder why? It’s political, it always has been political and this case is a barometer of our culture and where we are headed.
If guilty, it means that regular people are too scared to stand up to mob violence and the mob wins. If not guilty, the left is facing a reckoning, of course in the writhing there will be much death and destruction.

Take a look around you. Take a look at the towns and cities you live in, take a look at Kenosha. In a few days, if Kyle is found not guilty, there are people alive today who will not be due to violence. I am glad I am not on that jury.

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What would movie be called? “The Lenin Lawyer”, “A Few Good Karens”, “12 Angry Honkeys”,

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“One Brave Vagina-having Person”

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NOT GUILTY! Never been happier to be wrong about a prediction in a long time. Up until now, I have had a very depressing streak of being right.

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A huge victory for reasonable people, hopefully a signal that we’re past peak woke.

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There’s always the debate of “Did he go looking for trouble, or did he truly go to defend businesses?” but I think the verdict came out right regardless. Most all of the evidence showed he had plenty of opportunity to shoot others if he had wanted to, but didn’t do anything until attacked. I wouldn’t want to be him, the judge, the jury, or people in Kenosha right now, but I think the law was observed. Would just love to see some sense moving forward, but know that’s too big an ask.

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My guess is that he won’t be doing anything like this again. This was a just verdict, but I don’t think Rittenhouse will want to risk seeing the inside of a courthouse again for a long time.

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There was nothing reasonable about any of this. Not the riots, not some untrained 17-year-old thinking he was remotely capable of restoring order, not the narrative from both ends of the media commentary industry, nor unbridled vigilantism as the only answer to wokeism.

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I turned on the PBS coverage and the first words I heard were “…you know how race and racism played an overarching role in the outcome…” These are supposed to be serious people basically ignoring every fact laid bare, precisely to push racism.
I will say it again, when you are running articles with shit like “The Black Face of White Supremacy”, and issuing statements like “…the multi racial component of white supremacy”, hasn’t all this racial bullshit lost all meaning? You have WaPo and the LA Times writing articles like this and you expect any normal person to believe your concerned about race? When you are calling black people white supremacists, and BIPOC people who voted for Trump “multiracial white supremacists” any sense of reasonableness has left the building.
Isn’t anybody tired the constant race pimping the media does all the time? It seems to me a lot of people just swallow it hook, line and sinker. There are white people who call black conservatives ‘white supremacists’ , how the fuck does that make any sense?
The left has basically just admitted that actual race isn’t the issue, it’s having the wrong sorts of thoughts that they don’t like and applying the most appalling tag to anybody who has those thoughts.
So lets be clear, if you are not a democrat and you are not woke, you are then by definition a white supremacist. Sadly, this gets oxygen and though people should dismiss such chatter as the rantings of the extremely insane, but instead they squeal like seals in a fish pond.

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Reasonableness is found in the verdict.

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Well, maybe if the adults did their jobs and protected the community. If the police did their jobs and kept order, and the governor did his job and deployed the national guard, this would have never happened.
It took a kid to stand up and show the adults how they ought to behave and what they should protect.
He wasn’t being irresponsible. The people who left the town to the whims of violent maniacs, fighting a non-existent enemy, on behalf of big tech and corporate media, are the ones responsible for all of this.
None of this had to happen. But who knows what would have happened if that child rapist successfully pushed a burning dumpster into that gas station and found a way to light the whole place up, it could have been mush worse.

And there are at least 30 more dead people from the 2020 riots who have no trials on their behalf. Only the most raunchy and despicable people on earth got to have a hearing on why they are no longer living. The rest are forgotten ghosts.

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I heard the same thing and thought WTF? A white guy shoots three white guys and somehow it’s about racism. Hell, not only were all involved white, they were apparently all German-American given the sound of their names (not surprising for Wisconsin). But of course we’ve been hearing this nonsensical idea since the case began.

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he was not untrained, he did exactly that, stopped the violence. A real hero for Kenosha.

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LOL. The kid is an idiot. His saving grace was that his case had enough reasonable doubt to not be convicted (which I agree with BTW).

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So now comes the fun game of: Which cities will be torched to cinders tonight? Predictions?
Kenosha is gonna burn obviously. I predict the usual suspects, Portland and Seattle are going to riot. I think NY and Chicago may also go up in flames. Casualties? I say 2 dead coupled dozen wounded.

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Afterdark is when all riotors and looters will come out

I highly doubt it. There is the aura of Kyle protecting Kenosha right now.

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We shall see…hope I am incorrect

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Why? A thing happened. So it was racism. When you go to bed tonight, it will be due to racism. When I take a piss, it’s because of racism. Get woke.

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I think (and hope) that the reaction will be muted. The testimony that sank the prosecution is being played on all the major networks, even CNN notwithstanding their highly misleading coverage of the event earlier. Hopefully people understand the result, even if they don’t like it.
Now, the case in Georgia involving the guys who shot Arberry is a different matter. Should that jury fail to convict, serious disorder is likely.