[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
Where is this ‘stage’ of life and who gets to determine this event. Science maybe? Please tell me.
[quote]TheCanadian wrote:
Here’s my personal stance on it- until that baby has reached a certain stage of prenatal development, it’s just a fast-growing collection of cells within the mother’s body. If the mother detects it during that stage and decides she doesn’t want it to be there, it’s her body and it’s her right to eliminate something that, if unwanted, is no better than a tumor. The fact that it could grow into a human life eventually is completely irrelevant.
There’s too many people wasting resources on this planet already to introduce more that nobody wants. The idea that every single bloody person that’s ever conceived should be allowed to grow to maturity and reproduce is patently ridiculous, and is at least partly responsible for the world’s population problems today. The mother doesn’t want it, she doesn’t have to have it. End of story, everyone profits.[/quote]
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If the child is unable to survive outside the womb then it is merely a drain on the mother’s biological systems
Do you understand simple mammalian biology?
[quote]TheCanadian wrote:
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
Where is this ‘stage’ of life and who gets to determine this event. Science maybe? Please tell me.
[quote]TheCanadian wrote:
Here’s my personal stance on it- until that baby has reached a certain stage of prenatal development, it’s just a fast-growing collection of cells within the mother’s body. If the mother detects it during that stage and decides she doesn’t want it to be there, it’s her body and it’s her right to eliminate something that, if unwanted, is no better than a tumor. The fact that it could grow into a human life eventually is completely irrelevant.
There’s too many people wasting resources on this planet already to introduce more that nobody wants. The idea that every single bloody person that’s ever conceived should be allowed to grow to maturity and reproduce is patently ridiculous, and is at least partly responsible for the world’s population problems today. The mother doesn’t want it, she doesn’t have to have it. End of story, everyone profits.[/quote]
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If the child is unable to survive outside the womb then it is merely a drain on the mother’s biological systems[/quote]
Why and how did you miss my first question? How long ago did you move out? And answer the second one as well, please.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
How long ago did you move out? Do they still help you with food and/or doing your laundry? Are both your parents still together? How many years married? First time for each of them?
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
than even the mom you live with[/quote]
Come now, you can do better than that. I don’t live with my parents. I have many flaws, but you pick one that doesn’t exist?
Yeah, you mad.[/quote]
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They live in a different city and the extent of interaction we have is a once weekly phone call that lasts about half an hour. I don’t see how my parents private life concerns you, but just for reference so you don’t start making shit up… 25 years married, 3 kids, and yes - still on their first marriage.[/quote]
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
Why and how did you miss my first question? How long ago did you move out? And answer the second one as well, please.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
How long ago did you move out? Do they still help you with food and/or doing your laundry? Are both your parents still together? How many years married? First time for each of them?
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
than even the mom you live with[/quote]
Come now, you can do better than that. I don’t live with my parents. I have many flaws, but you pick one that doesn’t exist?
Yeah, you mad.[/quote]
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They live in a different city and the extent of interaction we have is a once weekly phone call that lasts about half an hour. I don’t see how my parents private life concerns you, but just for reference so you don’t start making shit up… 25 years married, 3 kids, and yes - still on their first marriage.[/quote]
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When I was 18, so 6 years ago now. I answered your second question… how are they supposed to do my laundry or cook me food from the other side of the country?
Are you going to keep asking irrelevant questions?
EDIT: And I’ve cooked my own food and done my own laundry since I was twelve. My parents have enough going on in their lives (sister with cerebral palsy) to have put up with running around after me. Don’t presume to know anything about me.
No Mak, I would never presume to know anything about you. It would honestly be awesome if I was given the same respect, let alone any. I was trying to understand where you are coming from. In fact your ‘edited’ portion revealed quite a bit to me. Is your sister and her condition a reason you believe abortion should be a right?
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
Why and how did you miss my first question? How long ago did you move out? And answer the second one as well, please.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
How long ago did you move out? Do they still help you with food and/or doing your laundry? Are both your parents still together? How many years married? First time for each of them?
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
than even the mom you live with[/quote]
Come now, you can do better than that. I don’t live with my parents. I have many flaws, but you pick one that doesn’t exist?
Yeah, you mad.[/quote]
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They live in a different city and the extent of interaction we have is a once weekly phone call that lasts about half an hour. I don’t see how my parents private life concerns you, but just for reference so you don’t start making shit up… 25 years married, 3 kids, and yes - still on their first marriage.[/quote]
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When I was 18, so 6 years ago now. I answered your second question… how are they supposed to do my laundry or cook me food from the other side of the country?
Are you going to keep asking irrelevant questions?
EDIT: And I’ve cooked my own food and done my own laundry since I was twelve. My parents have enough going on in their lives (sister with cerebral palsy) to have put up with running around after me. Don’t presume to know anything about me.[/quote]
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
No Mak, I would never presume to know anything about you. It would honestly be awesome if I was given the same respect, let alone any. I was trying to understand where you are coming from. In fact your ‘edited’ portion revealed quite a bit to me. Is your sister and her condition a reason you believe abortion should be a right?[/quote]
Nope.
Please explain what grants this right upon someone.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
No Mak, I would never presume to know anything about you. It would honestly be awesome if I was given the same respect, let alone any. I was trying to understand where you are coming from. In fact your ‘edited’ portion revealed quite a bit to me. Is your sister and her condition a reason you believe abortion should be a right?[/quote]
Nope.[/quote]