[quote]Rockscar wrote:
All hail the mighty children who know it all!
They have lived 1/4 of the life you have, have never had to pay a mortgage, have never been responsible for the lives of others, their own car insurance, food, bills…but they can tell you how the world and government works bar none!
Give it up to the esteemed children. They know it all and we have been punked! I think it must be Holiday break.[/quote]
Unless they agree with you; then they’re wise for their age.
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
[quote]forlife wrote:
Jesus did say, “Out of the mouth of babes you have perfected praise”, [/quote]
“Daddy she’s fat”…“has a big nose”, or “she’s beautiful”…yes.
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Also yes:
“Why do giraffes have long necks?”
“Why are people mean to Nikki just because her skin is black?”
“When I grow up, I want to be an astronaut, a veterinarian, and a football player!”
“Sorry. Want to play?”
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]forlife wrote:
Jesus did say, “Out of the mouth of babes you have perfected praise”, and “Suffer the little children to come unto Me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God”.
The humility of a child is closer to wisdom than the hubris of a know-it-all adult.[/quote]
Aren’t you the one who left the church? Now you quote the Bible? Wow.[/quote]
There’s wisdom to be found in every holy book. You only get into trouble when you use them as science books instead.
I’m pretty sure most old people I know are full of crap too. I don’t know what’s more annoying… someone thinking their opinion matters because they are old, or someone thinking their opinion matters because they got it from Jon Stewart.
[quote]Fezzik wrote:
I’m pretty sure most old people I know are full of crap too. I don’t know what’s more annoying… someone thinking their opinion matters because they are old, or someone thinking their opinion matters because they got it from Jon Stewart.[/quote]
This is not an age-ism thread. The point is I think it’s hilarious how some kids (I’ did it as well) think that a couple of college classes enlightens them beyond anyone else in the world. That their books and professors opinions are the mortar to their ideals. Ideals formed by books rather than experiences.
They know it all based on these books, yet probably have only known about politics for a couple of years, and probably have not even voted in an election, nor have they had to make it in the world on their own.
I’ll take ideas formed by the books AND experience rather than just a book …any day.
I will however commend them for participating. That’s a good thing, even though their ideals are not really their own yet, just a version of what they hear in class.
It’s also proof and a wake up call as to how liberalism and socialism is ingrained in our youth through university teachings today.
Conservatism is equally engrained in youth via religious programming. Brainwashing happens across the political spectrum, it really just depends on who raises you.
[quote]forlife wrote:
Conservatism is equally engrained in youth via religious programming. Brainwashing happens across the political spectrum, it really just depends on who raises you.[/quote]
Really?
There are people who consider me a conservative and I am completely areligious.
[quote]forlife wrote:
Conservatism is equally engrained in youth via religious programming. Brainwashing happens across the political spectrum, it really just depends on who raises you.[/quote]
most posters, young or old, tend to be (or sound like they are) dogmatic and ideologic because they are posters.
it’s a negative side-effct of internet boards.
quotes, links, asynchronicity, anonymity… so many traps.
things would be quite different in another context, face to face, beer to beer.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]forlife wrote:
Conservatism is equally engrained in youth via religious programming. Brainwashing happens across the political spectrum, it really just depends on who raises you.[/quote]
Really?
There are people who consider me a conservative and I am completely areligious.
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Never implied that you had to be religious to be conservative, but there is a correlation.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]forlife wrote:
Conservatism is equally engrained in youth via religious programming. Brainwashing happens across the political spectrum, it really just depends on who raises you.[/quote]
Really?
There are people who consider me a conservative and I am completely areligious.
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I always viewed you as more of a libertarian.
Young people suck big time, I hate them all, smart or dumb, it doesn’t really matter anymore at this point of my life.
Nah, just kidding, but I do envy them.
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
It’s also proof and a wake up call as to how liberalism and socialism is ingrained in our youth through university teachings today.
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I think you hit that one dead center.
[quote]forlife wrote:
Conservatism is equally engrained in youth via religious programming. Brainwashing happens across the political spectrum, it really just depends on who raises you.[/quote]
Dead wrong. In case you have not noticed we live in a cultural that promotes promiscuity, the media has assured that. And most of our colleges are very liberal. Who raises you is very important, but whomever it is now has a much more difficult job because of the nature of the society that we live in.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
It’s also proof and a wake up call as to how liberalism and socialism is ingrained in our youth through university teachings today.
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I think you hit that one dead center.
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I think that liberalism and socialism tends to look halfway decent to a lot of students in college simply because they aren’t exposed to it in real life that much. I know a couple people from Eastern bloc countries and Russia, and for them it was the same thing, only in regards to conservatism and capitalism.
We live in a capitalistic society that is just right of center in general. For whatever reason, people seem to grow more conservative as they get older. So a student here learns about socialism and liberalism in school and to him/her it’s a relatively new thing. And in general this “new thing” is contrary to what their parents believe or it seems like it might be, so they take an interest in it. It’s only natural to take an interest in something that is new and may set you apart from your parents. The youth have a need to rebel and be different.
It works the other way too. I think a lot of “older” people see what the youth ostensibly stand for or believe in or whatever, and falsely assume that the youth come from some uneducated, wholly ignorant viewpoint. So the “older” kind of reinforce their own beliefs (if they tend to lean to the right) in a manner that separates them further from the youth that they feel are out of touch. It’s the whole “things were better in my day” concept played out ideologically. In Russia or the Ukraine it’s the exact same thing, except that the young tend to be to the right and the “older” tend to be to the left.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]forlife wrote:
Conservatism is equally engrained in youth via religious programming. Brainwashing happens across the political spectrum, it really just depends on who raises you.[/quote]
Really?
There are people who consider me a conservative and I am completely areligious.
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I always viewed you as more of a libertarian.
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True, but liberals usually cannot tell the difference.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
And most of our colleges are very liberal. [/quote]
This is way over stated and has not held up to analysis, which suggest a slight lean towards liberal ideas. But here is the thing, if you are teaching students to think, actually think and not regurgitate facts, you need to expose them to new ideas. Just because a professor may cover a range of ideas, and some of them are ‘liberal’, does not make the university ‘very liberal’. I think DB answered about student perception well.
I will say that might students lately have been complaining about how much they hear about feminist theory.
i don’t know about US universities, but in France the universities used to be liberal, but it’s no more true.
Here, leftist professors are a near-extinct species.
they belonged to the 1968 / baby boom generation, and most of them are now retired, or will be soon retired.
the new generation is more centrist, and sometimes right-winged.
a good number of my professors of philosophy were openly religious and openly conservatives.
today, even the germanists don’t care about Marx, they have got back to Kant and Hegel, and their main 20th century influence is Heidegger, who was hardly a liberal.
[quote]kamui wrote:
[quote]forlife wrote:
Conservatism is equally engrained in youth via religious programming. Brainwashing happens across the political spectrum, it really just depends on who raises you.[/quote]
most posters, young or old, tend to be (or sound like they are) dogmatic and ideologic because they are posters.
it’s a negative side-effct of internet boards.
quotes, links, asynchronicity, anonymity… so many traps.
things would be quite different in another context, face to face, beer to beer.
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Stop… making… sense!!!
it hurts my brain!
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
It’s also proof and a wake up call as to how liberalism and socialism is ingrained in our youth through university teachings today.
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I think you hit that one dead center.
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Nothing turned me off left-wing (especially socialist) policies more than the idiots who support them in university
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
It’s also proof and a wake up call as to how liberalism and socialism is ingrained in our youth through university teachings today.
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I think you hit that one dead center.
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More like a grand slam in Game 7 of the World Series.