Keys to success - what's your top 3

Training
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Maybe recovery and diet need to be on your list. Could be time to up your protein.

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Im not saying its a regular occurrence. Just meaning somtimes its smart to listen to what your body is telling you.

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Ah, yeah, I meant the entirely pessimistic side of this.

Honesty, but always biased negatively :slight_smile: Honesty about where one lacks and oneā€™s failures, rather than overconfidence.

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Clarification on my previous answer.

  1. Too many want instant gratification
  2. Too many short cuts now to get there.
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And yet we still see heaps of people go know where fast and bodybuilding is still not as good as the 90ā€™s

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True

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Iā€™m going to answer without reading any other replies so Iā€™m not influenced by them. My top three of what you have listed are: Consistency/discipline, diet and intensity (which I am interpreting as effort).

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Teach them about a garden. Do you pull up the plant to check its root growth? It takes a system of events to reap the ā€œfruitā€ of a tree or plant.

  • Plow to make the ground ready
  • Sow the seeds
  • Water and fertilize the plant
  • Pull out that growth that is chocking the nutrients from the ā€œfruitā€ bearing plant
  • Keep the insects and birds from taking your ā€œfruitā€ before the harvest
  • Come harvest time collect your ā€œfruit.ā€

If they donā€™t understand growing crops, patience is difficult to explain to those accustomed to drive-in fast food.

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Consider ā€œfaithā€ from another meaning. Weā€™re faithful to a spouse. We have faith that they will be faithful to us. Itā€™s less this

But more: do you think youā€™d see ANY results if you had NO faith? If you took on a program and the entire time you did it you thought ā€œthis isnā€™t going to workā€ā€¦would it?

Dave Tate DID provide an interesting example of this, where he did Westside Barbell out of SPITE. He wanted to PROVE to Louie Simmons that it wouldnā€™t workā€¦and then it did. But thereā€™s something to be said about the fact that Dave had tons of faith: just in the opposite direction. He was willing to invest 100% of himself in the system to make it FAIL.

So perhaps THIS is where we take this

ā€œI know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarmā€”neither hot nor coldā€”I am about to spit you out of my mouthā€ (Revelation 3:15-16).

We cannot be lukewarm in our faith in the programming. Either we believe it will work, or we believe it wonā€™t, but when we think ā€œMaybe itā€™ll workā€: it wonā€™t.

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Is being committed to the program and doing everything it asks for, the same as believing it will work. Maybe without some belief its not possible to do everything a program needs.

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Chicken and egg here. Someone with faith in the program WILL do that, but someone who does that doesnā€™t necessarily have faith. Just like how a faithful person will always go to worship, but not everyone who goes go worship has faith.

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But do they both work equally ?

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In my experience, someone just paying lip service will not get results. Faith is key.

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I agree that it is hard to fake the effort and consistency needed to really get the most out of a program.

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Iā€™d assume if the macros work, they would both be fine.

Ba dum tiss.

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  • Visualization
  • Intention
  • Consistency
    Chicken and Rice
    I use these for the gym but should be better about applying them to my everyday life.
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Funny how one is made from the other but has twice the protein per 100g and yet the other is seen as a superior source of protein.

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Girondaā€™s stuff is such a trippy rabbit hole.

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Got to love a man that called Arnold a fat ass the first time they meet.

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