Kdjohn: Physical Philosophy & Iron Insights

Should I really be considering weight loss right now, though? I’m probably 185-190 at the moment, with not nearly as much muscle as, say, yourself, but we’re the same height. My concern with weight loss at the moment would be added stress during an already stressful time, moving into a new program that potentially is more demanding than I’ve been doing, with both the above points requiring more energy to sustain.

However, removing the complication of tinkering with diet could be a stress relief.

These are legitimate questions, by the way. Not trying to debate.

It’s entirely up to you: I was more commiserating. Otherwise, just gotta keep working the diet hacks and sneaking in calories per bite.

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Have you tried taking food that you can eat with your hands to work? I pack wraps, sandwiches, and burgers so I can eat while driving.

If you’re that busy at work then grabbing a sandwich to eat while walking from point A to B should be a good option. My cheeseburgers are close to 600 calories.

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@T3hPwnisher that’s what I’m trying to do, get in calories wherever I can.

@Frank_C yeah, that’s what I’m trying to organize.

18/08/2020

1015 start time
Garage temp: 18C

Snatch

  • worked up to 135x5

Bench

  • worked up to 210x5

RFESS

  • 1x25 @ BW

Diamond push-ups

  • 1x25

Band pulldowns

  • 1x25

Notes:

  • Training maxes are all good for the next program. Snatch was a little slow and muscle-y, but still managed to hit the number I wanted.
  • Meals below. Ended up adding extra food to my dinner and threw in another protein shake with whole milk during the afternoon to help with calories:

Morning meal: 3 eggs, 3/4 cup greek yogurt, 2 slices wheat toast w/ PB, 100ml whole milk, scoop of protein (35g), 1/2 cup berries

Midday meals/snacks: 1 tbsp raw honey, 150ml whole milk, scoop of protein (35g), banana, large handful of almonds

Evening meal: lentil & veggie stew, 3/4lb pork loin, 225g (roughly) beef tortellini, 750ml whole milk

I’m torn, because I want to “help” and throw suggestions at you, but you seem to have a pretty solid understanding of what you need to do and how to do it. I’m more just overly excited for your goals and love figuring out stuff like this, most likely because I’ve been restricting calories for so long now, haha. It’s been good to watch the process unfold.

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Appreciate it, man. Honestly, if you ever think of something that, even slightly, might be pertinent, throw it at me. I know enough to know that I don’t know enough. My 7-year-old nephew showed me up yesterday, and I’m humble enough to admit it, haha.

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In that regard, you have an evening meal, but do you have a “before bed” meal? Might be a good place to get in those last few calories. @simo74 has taken my cottage cheese or greek yogurt idea and fleshed it into a full on meal, and I did something similar with deep water. Mine was cottage cheese mixed with PB fit and avocados. Doesn’t help the carb issue, but can at least be some slow digesting protein and fats while you recover. And if you have the room, you could mix in some of the carbs you CAN tolerate at that point.

Or, since you get really full on carbs, might be a good time to eat them right before bed, when you have no other meals you need to make room for.

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During the work week, yes, because I basically get home from work, eat my evening meal and go to bed.

This is brilliant, and I will probably employ this during my days off/training days. Try and get dinner in around when my kid eats, then have something like a bowl of oatmeal while my wife and I relax.

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Outstanding dude: glad the spitballing was beneficial. There’s been some writing about “carb backloading” recently that would probably serve for some inspiration on the topic as well.

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I’ve seen enough science talk around here to just jump straight to personal experiences. I’ve experienced multiple occasions where I’ve eaten a horrible dinner full of fat, carbs, and excess calories and then felt like Captain America the next day in the gym. There’s a carryover. I am actually playing with the idea of intentionally eating like crap tomorrow afternoon/evening with the hopes of fueling a new deadlift PR Friday morning.

I know I don’t have to eat like crap, but it’s easy to get a surplus from “bad” foods and it’s just nice to splurge on occasion. I think pizza worked well last time despite the overload of salt.

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This was the exact strategy I took before the Deep Water lower body workouts. It was almost always Panda Express or Taco Bell the night before. Granted, I was also training first thing in the morning, so it really was an instance of needing to fuel up “right” before that workout as I’d have no other opportunity.

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I don’t do well if I eat breakfast and then train. I’ll have a double protein shake upon waking but that’s it. Even something as small as a bagel can lead to nausea during a tough session.

I always did something super small, like 2 thin mints or a slice of toast with honey on it. Same: I don’t want a full gut when I’m training first thing in the morning, but DO want something in so I’m not “fasted”

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The few times I’ve trained first thing in the AM my go-to was a small cup of black coffee and a couple granola bars. Seemed to balance the idea of not feeling ‘empty’ while also not providing much for an upset stomach once the session started pretty well.

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Starting the new program I’m calling: how much, how many, how fast, how far. The premise is thus:

How much

  • How much weight for 1 rep can I lift. The lifts I’ll be using, due to equipment limitations, are the clean & power jerk, snatch, bench press, and power clean & press.

How many

  • How many unbroken reps of strict push-ups and pull-ups can I do.

How fast

  • Pretty simple; how fast can I run. This’ll be achieved via rotating distances. Still not entirely sure what speed for what distance I’m gunning for yet.

How far

  • How far can I carry and object. I’ll be using a sand-filled keg since it’s all I have right now.

This is a very goal-oriented program. Physique goals have never swayed me, training has always been about a specific goal for me. This encompasses my preferred goals.

Let’s do it.

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23/08/2020

Start time: 1200
Garage temp: 18C

Clean & power jerk

  • worked up to 195x1
  • 1x20 (cluster reps, 10 deep breaths between reps)

Push-ups, 5 min AMRAP

  • 71 reps

Band dislocations

  • 50 total reps (rest/pause)

Band shoulder circles (rear-anchored)

  • 1x25 forward
  • 1x25 backward

Hungarian plate twists

  • 2x25 @ 25

100m runs

  • 10 sets

Notes:

  • Off to a great start. Using 5/3/1 Leviathan for the barbell lifts. Not 100% sure about the 20 reps done as a cluster, but it was nice for getting a lot of extra practice for technique. I think I’ll do 1x20 for the clean & jerk and snatch for the first leader, and 5x10 for the bench and clean & press. Then SSL for all lifts on the second leader in preparation for lifting big in the anchor.
  • I’m being super strict on the push-up and pull-up form. Starting off nice and slow.
  • Meals below. Didn’t eat as much as I wanted because of hanging out with my family at the lake later in the day:

Morning meal: 1/2 berries, 2 tbsp PB, 3 eggs, 100ml whole milk, 35g protein, 3/4 cup greek yogurt

Post workout/snacks: 250ml whole milk, 35g protein, apple

Evening meals: 2/3 lb cheeseburger, mixed grilled veggies, handful of gummy bears, 150g (ish) beef tortellini

I’ve been trying out carb backloading as suggested by @T3hPwnisher for the last week. So far, loving it. I have a little bit of carbs in the form of fruit during breakfast and post-workout, but otherwise nothing until dinner. Feeling great, sleeping great, still have lots of energy.

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24/08/2020

Bench

  • worked up to 210x1
  • 5x10 @ 145

Keg carry

  • 5x35m @ 150

Walking lunges

  • 50 reps L/R @ BW

Pull-ups, 5 min AMRAP

  • 23 reps (sad face)

Band tricep OHE

  • 50 total reps (rest/pause)

Band curls

  • 50 total reps (rest/pause)

Notes:

  • This whole session had me feeling like my skin was going to split from the pump. Crazy.
  • Not happy with the number of pull-ups. I went with a neutral grip, and didn’t count a rep unless it started from a full hang and finished with my collarbone at the bar. Want to be as precise with these as possible.
  • Meals below. Another day of not getting quite as much food as I wanted:

Morning meal: 1/2 cup berries, 2 tbsp PB, 3 eggs, 100ml whole milk, 35g protein, 3/4 cup greek yogurt, black coffee

Post-workout/snacks: 35g protein, 250ml whole milk, large handful almonds, apple

Evening meals: large bowl lentil & veggie stew, 2 1/3lb beef & pork burgers, 1/3 farmer’s sausage, cucumbers, 2 slices grain bread, 750ml whole milk

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Diggin this setup dude, looking forward to seeing how it goes for you.

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Thanks, man. I’m excited about it!

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25/08/2020

Start time: 1400
Garage temp: 20C

Snatch

  • worked up to 135x1
  • 1x20 @ 95 (cluster set, 10 deeps breaths between reps)

Push-ups, 5 min AMRAP

  • 77 reps

Kneeling band crunches

  • 1x50

Band shoulder dislocations

  • 50 total reps (rest/pause)

Band shoulder circles (rear anchored)

  • 1x25 forward
  • 1x25 backward

200m runs

  • 5 sets, 15 min

Notes:

  • Snatch was feeling a little wonky until I got to higher weight. I think once it was heavier I was forced to execute the third pull probably by pulling under the bar instead of continuing to muscle it up.
  • Meals below:

Morning meal: 1/2 cup berries, 2 tbsp PB, 3 eggs, 100ml whole milk, 35g protein, 3/4 cup greek yogurt, black coffee

Post-workout/snacks: 35g protein, 250ml whole milk, large handful almonds, apple

Evening meals: lentil & veggie stew, 3/4lb pork loin, 2 slices grain toast, 750ml whole milk, 2 banana muffins

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