I imagine midway through the progression I’ll regret my decision.
I imagine it’ll happen long before midway.
This makes me very happy that I’m not concerned with leg gains. Good luck!
I’ve always wanted behemoth legs. But now I have tiny arms because I’ve focused so much on my lower body over the years, haha.
BuT sQuAtS gEt YoUr ArMs BiGgGg
I legit used to believe that.
And now I have the arms of a prepubescent boy.
I did too, dude.
Squatted and deadlifted with an arched back, too. Wondered why my arms weren’t growing and my back always hurt.
We use our arms so fuckin much and yet some asshole convinced us that our arms wouldn’t, nay, couldn’t, get bigger with direct work.
We use our core a lot too, and I thought abs were a result of your diet, and that we all had a cut-out 8 pack ready to burst through, so I stopped training abs.
So during my lifting career, from misconceptions, lies, myths, bad cues, and everything else out there, I stopped squatting, deadlifting, working arms, working abs, working calves, and doing cardio at different points, and it’s painful to imagine where I’d be if I had just ignored all of it. That’s why I laugh when people say how easy it is to lift with all the information out there - the overload of information is what makes it so difficult to get back to the basics of working hard and eating big.
No. You don’t need to work arms. Emperor Hiro or whatever his name is said so, and told me you were stupid for disagreeing with him. That’s enough for me. ![]()
He’s on the right half of the spectrum (IMO), but at the extreme end of it - Bench and chins can’t build big arms. Kind of a stupid thing to say, but that dude says all sorts of dumb shit, and then freaks out when someone disagrees with them and goes straight for the “I’m so smart, you’re so dumb” attack. The funny thing is, I posted my disagreement with that (where I called what he said ‘silly’), and then the next thread I saw was the powerlifter vs bodybuilder thread and I agreed with what he said and liked his post, and he was like YOU SLANDER ME AT EVERY TURN, YOU FEEBLE-MINDED KNAVE. At the end of the day, dude’s puny, calls himself ‘big’ a lot but has one very unimpressive picture that was posted, and a year after posting it he made a thread claiming to have lost 15 lbs of muscle, which would constitute 95% of the mass he had in that picture.
You can work your arms with skulls, or you can work them with CGBP, or both, but you can’t tell me, the most arm-dominant person ever, that bench doesn’t build arms, because all bench ever hit was my tris, or that chins don’t build arms, because my biceps are literally 99% from high rep slightly-cheaty chins and weighted chins.
The notion that gripping a bar in a squat while your legs do all the lifting though, that’s something I can’t believe I bought into, but I did, 100%, for a time.
No I’m totally on your side in that. I’d even noticed that you’d liked his post in the BB’er thread. I think a lot of people just don’t seem to want to accept that they need both compound and isolation movements. You (probably) don’t bench 405 without some tricep work along the way and you also don’t get big tri’s as a skinny teenager doing kickbacks - you gotta throw around some heavy weight.
People either want to be a minimalist using only the big barbell movements (myself at times) or reject the big movements because that’s not what bodybuilders use - gotta get toned from machines and dumbbells. (Why do people think just switching from a barbell to a dumbbell turns it into an isolation movement?)
Basically, do both!
I was in great shape and had a 4 pack (not saying that’s impressive) in high school after being a chubby kid my whole life. I was running a lot and working my abs daily. Then I read too many articles and got stronger over time but also got really out of shape and lost any ab definition that I’d had.
Wonder why…maybe stopping running and sit-ups because squats took care of all that.
If we could have signatures or flairs like Reddit, this would 100% be yours.
I feel your pain man. In a huge surplus mine look “not terrible”, but the second I cut back to maintenance or less they start looking mighty twiggy.
05/05/2020
Bent press
- 5x5 @ 50
10 minute pull-up AMRAP (various grips)
- Lost count. My 7-month son thought pull-ups were hilarious and his laughing distracted me.
Notes:
- Soooo this day was supposed to be bent press, keg carries, straight-leg DL and chins. That didn’t happen. Started the bent presses, everything felt off and my mood was tanking for no reason. After that I really, really didn’t want to haul the keg up and down the driveway so I just did my pull-ups and called it there.
- I think I need to shelve the loaded carries for a bit. I’ll go through the leg blast I’m on, along with Kroc’s arm workout. Once I’m done that I think I’ll mess around with pushing various overhead lifts, then I’ll attack carries with a renewed vigour.
- Work is beating me down lately because people are sick of waiting in line and being screened, and because I’m the first face they see, their ire is immediately directed at me. I try my best to be friendly and patient, and greet everyone warmly, but being an introvert means this wipes me out REALLY fast. The weekend is starting to not be enough recovery time. All this considered, I think that’s partly why I’m not digging heavy carries. Volume and endurance work feels more appealing right now.
Well, I’ll be looking forward to calling someone this someday.
06/05/2020
Running
- 1500m
07/05/2020
Standing high jump
- 2x5
Squats
- 1x2:20 min @ 100
BW leg extensions
- 2x30 @ BW
Prone band leg curls
- 3x8, 10 sec pause, AMRAP
Isometric stretching
- Quads, 2x1 min
- Hamstrings, 2x1 min
10 min AMRAP dips
- 119
Isometric stretching
- Chest, 2x1 min
- Shoulders, 2x1 min
08/05/2020
Dumbbell snatch
- 2x5/hand @ 50
DB OHP
- warm ups
- 1x11+7+5 (RP) @ 50
DB bench
- warm ups
- 1x9+3+3 (RP) @ 70
Isometric stretching
- Shoulders, 2x1 min
- Chest, 2x1 min
Kroc row
- 1x10 @ 95
- 1x19 @ 95
2-hand KB curl
- warm ups
- 1x15+4+3 (RP) @ 70
Isometric stretching
- Biceps, 2x1 min
Notes:
- Missed a few days. Lots to catch up on here. Running continues well; I plan to do 1 day of basic steady state, and 1 day of mixed distance and speed. The Hungarian Oak Leg Blast continues to suck and makes me want to cry. Who knew 100 pounds could be awful. 10 minutes of dips was no bueno also. Definitely doing it again.
- The isometric stretching is the same thing as “loaded” or “extreme” stretching from DoggCrapp training, I just think “isometric” is a better term than “loaded”, because all stretching, even with just your bodyweight, is technically “loaded”.
- The stretching was something I used to always do either after certain exercises (like regular DC training), or after the workout. I dropped it somewhat recently for no real reason, I just started getting lazy. Well, I’ve been trying to figure out why I’ve been feeling like crap lately, and stretching is one thing on the list that’s changed recently. The “loaded” stretching after certain exercises feels great after the whimper-inducing pain during it. I get a huge blood rush to the area.
- Was short on time today, so I rest-paused everything.
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12/05/2020
Broad jumps
- 2x5
Squats
- 1x2:40 min @ 100
Pullover
- 1x20 @ 25
BW leg extensions
- 2x30
Prone band leg curls
- 3x8, 10 sec pause, AMRAP
Kneeling ab wheel
- 3x4-3-2-1 countdown (4 sec pause + 4 reps, 3 sec pause + 3 reps, etc etc)
Notes:
- I can definitely feel that once I get above the 3 or 4 minute mark, these workouts are gonna suck. My upper back was starting to burn just from supporting the bar.
- Pullovers aren’t part of the Hungarian Oak Leg Blast program, but I felt like I needed something to get my gasping under control, so I figured if I was gonna lay down I may as well make it productive.
- Decided on the ab wheel today. It was either that or pull-ups, but I know I need the ab work more. Pull-ups can always be done throughout the day, or on weeks where I’m not doing Kroc’s arm workout.
13/05/2020
Running
- Run, sprint, walk, 8 sets
Notes:
- I thought back on how I used to train conditioning/cardio, and when I was in my best shape and fastest, this was the workout I did twice a week. It was proceeded by a 10-15 minute run too.
- The run, sprint, walk quickly turned into jog, run, walk because I just couldn’t maintain enough power in my legs. I thought about why this was, and realized that while I was doing this running workout regularly, I was also still training martial arts and had a LOT of power endurance work throughout the week, which would allow me to keep sustained speeds. Because I rarely do that anymore, that power endurance has vanished.
- This workout was honestly a bit of an eye opener. I’ve sacrificed a lot over the last year or two in order to add pounds to the bar, and I’m not entirely comfortable with it. My dream was to always, above all else, be a lean mean fighting machine: a modern day warrior. To have strength, speed, endurance, power, the whole package. I need to get back to that.
Hear hear dude! Feeling the same.
Watch those sprints. Very common to blow a hammie after spending a lot of time getting stronger without specifically drilling sprints. Output over exceeds elasticity.
Good to know. I’ll probably keep it at jog, run, walk on purpose and gradually up the speed.