What kind of lower back injury?
I have bulging discs in my L3,4, and 5. I also have the beginnings of degenerative disc disease.
A week ago I 1rm 425.
So unless you’ve got something so ridiculous…it’s not that hard to do DLs with a fucked up back. You just have to be smart.
[quote]Sir wrote:
What kind of lower back injury?
I have bulging discs in my L3,4, and 5. I also have the beginnings of degenerative disc disease.
A week ago I 1rm 425.
So unless you’ve got something so ridiculous…it’s not that hard to do DLs with a fucked up back. You just have to be smart.[/quote]
Torn annulus in my L1 plus slight scoliosis (hence assymetry in my pictures)
I wasn’t trying to make excuses for a lack of effort. I seriously couldn’t do DL’s above 155 lbs for a while. It hurt too much.
Congrats on your 1rm btw
[quote]kayveeay wrote:
I know I’m no pro bodybuilder, and probably smaller than most on this board, but I certainly know what the hell I’m doing with my cycle, unlike a lot of 25 year old’s that are hyuuuuge.
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LOL! You know “what the hell” you’re doing with a cycle? Dude, that’s HILARIOUS!
I would NEVER slap a good, expensive coat of paint on a shitty 200 year old rusty barn. To be honest, it just wouldn’t change the fact that it’s already in horrible condition.
[quote]kayveeay wrote:
Sir wrote:
What kind of lower back injury?
I have bulging discs in my L3,4, and 5. I also have the beginnings of degenerative disc disease.
A week ago I 1rm 425.
So unless you’ve got something so ridiculous…it’s not that hard to do DLs with a fucked up back. You just have to be smart.
Torn annulus in my L1 plus slight scoliosis (hence assymetry in my pictures)
I wasn’t trying to make excuses for a lack of effort. I seriously couldn’t do DL’s above 155 lbs for a while. It hurt too much.
Congrats on your 1rm btw[/quote]
Well I have no idea wtf a torn annulus in your L1 would feel like, but hey if you can’t do it you can’t do it.
I’ve got a “slight” case of scoliosis as well…I think a good majority of people do…I could be wrong.
Also, I have a facet on my left side that goes out of place…sometimes pinches a nerve or gets caught in the muscle…a very shitty feeling…I don’t maybe I’ve just got a higher threshold for pain.
As far as the steroids…that’s all you. But I have to agree with everyone else on this board and say it’s pretty silly at your size, with your stats, and your current years of training that it’s not needed.
You could get the same results that you’re trying to get with gear the good ole fashion way…it will just take longer.
You remind me of a kid I went to high school with. Came back home one christmas and the kid was small as shit. I find out later from him that he’s going to be starting a cycle and asks me my thoughts. I told him he was an idiot that he should just eat and lift. He didn’t listen…wanted the quick and easy way.
A year later I see him again. He’s bigger, but not much bigger. I was still bigger than him. He looked like he maybe gained…10lbs…and it wasn’t all muscle. I have a feeling the same thing is going to happen to you. You’ll take your cycle, but you won’t have a clue as to what you’re doing because you don’t know your body and you wont push it far enough. Plus you don’t have a good foundation of strength to even reap the benefits of steroids.
You’ll find out the hard way I guess.
Still, keep us posted. Whether you fail or not. No shame in being wrong. And if you’re right you get to throw it back in to all of our faces.
[quote]Eddie_would_tow wrote:
kayveeay wrote:
I know I’m no pro bodybuilder, and probably smaller than most on this board, but I certainly know what the hell I’m doing with my cycle, unlike a lot of 25 year old’s that are hyuuuuge.
LOL! You know “what the hell” you’re doing with a cycle? Dude, that’s HILARIOUS!
I would NEVER slap a good, expensive coat of paint on a shitty 200 year old rusty barn. To be honest, it just wouldn’t change the fact that it’s already in horrible condition.
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What’s hilarious is that you’re encenuating my body is in horrible condition. Yours is something to build a shrine to?
You obviously haven’t read my log yet, or you would eat your words, as I think it’s obvious I “know what the hell I’m doing”
You know a thing or two about 'roids? Enlighten me. Your metaphor sucks. What makes steroids a coat of paint? Steroids could easily be considered putting up new wood for your goddamn barn.
As a fairly capable MMA practitioner, I would easily and gladly…
Actually, fuck it. Why don’t you just go grab yourself a nice big cup of SHUT THE FUCK UP.
[quote]Sir wrote:
kayveeay wrote:
Sir wrote:
What kind of lower back injury?
I have bulging discs in my L3,4, and 5. I also have the beginnings of degenerative disc disease.
A week ago I 1rm 425.
So unless you’ve got something so ridiculous…it’s not that hard to do DLs with a fucked up back. You just have to be smart.
Torn annulus in my L1 plus slight scoliosis (hence assymetry in my pictures)
I wasn’t trying to make excuses for a lack of effort. I seriously couldn’t do DL’s above 155 lbs for a while. It hurt too much.
Congrats on your 1rm btw
Well I have no idea wtf a torn annulus in your L1 would feel like, but hey if you can’t do it you can’t do it.
I’ve got a “slight” case of scoliosis as well…I think a good majority of people do…I could be wrong.
Also, I have a facet on my left side that goes out of place…sometimes pinches a nerve or gets caught in the muscle…a very shitty feeling…I don’t maybe I’ve just got a higher threshold for pain.
As far as the steroids…that’s all you. But I have to agree with everyone else on this board and say it’s pretty silly at your size, with your stats, and your current years of training that it’s not needed.
You could get the same results that you’re trying to get with gear the good ole fashion way…it will just take longer.
You remind me of a kid I went to high school with. Came back home one christmas and the kid was small as shit. I find out later from him that he’s going to be starting a cycle and asks me my thoughts. I told him he was an idiot that he should just eat and lift. He didn’t listen…wanted the quick and easy way.
A year later I see him again. He’s bigger, but not much bigger. I was still bigger than him. He looked like he maybe gained…10lbs…and it wasn’t all muscle. I have a feeling the same thing is going to happen to you. You’ll take your cycle, but you won’t have a clue as to what you’re doing because you don’t know your body and you wont push it far enough. Plus you don’t have a good foundation of strength to even reap the benefits of steroids.
You’ll find out the hard way I guess.
Still, keep us posted. Whether you fail or not. No shame in being wrong. And if you’re right you get to throw it back in to all of our faces.[/quote]
Thank you for knowing the right way to voice concern and/or disapproval. Personally, I think I do, and I’d appreciate it if you checked out my log as I think you’ll see I’m quite well informed.
As for pushing my body… we shall see… 
[quote]kayveeay wrote:
Eddie_would_tow wrote:
kayveeay wrote:
I know I’m no pro bodybuilder, and probably smaller than most on this board, but I certainly know what the hell I’m doing with my cycle, unlike a lot of 25 year old’s that are hyuuuuge.
LOL! You know “what the hell” you’re doing with a cycle? Dude, that’s HILARIOUS!
I would NEVER slap a good, expensive coat of paint on a shitty 200 year old rusty barn. To be honest, it just wouldn’t change the fact that it’s already in horrible condition.
What’s hilarious is that you’re encenuating my body is in horrible condition. Yours is something to build a shrine to?
You obviously haven’t read my log yet, or you would eat your words, as I think it’s obvious I “know what the hell I’m doing”
You know a thing or two about 'roids? Enlighten me. Your metaphor sucks. What makes steroids a coat of paint? Steroids could easily be considered putting up new wood for your goddamn barn.
As a fairly capable MMA practitioner, I would easily and gladly…
Actually, fuck it. Why don’t you just go grab yourself a nice big cup of SHUT THE FUCK UP.
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LOL, a little offended are you?
[quote]Eddie_would_tow wrote:
LOL, a little offended are you?[/quote]
Yeah, when some dumb cunt comes on here and tries to tell me that
When
I just think if you spent the next 2-3yrs with a good serious diet and got your strength up you’d see better, more impressive gains. Because you can’t really push much now so I don’t see how you will grow. But you’ve made your mind up. I’ll be watching your log and looking for some update pics in the months to come.
Going to bed…I should have been asleep 3 hours ago…fuck.
[quote]Sir wrote:
I just think if you spent the next 2-3yrs with a good serious diet and got your strength up you’d see better, more impressive gains. Because you can’t really push much now so I don’t see how you will grow. But you’ve made your mind up. I’ll be watching your log and looking for some update pics in the months to come.
Going to bed…I should have been asleep 3 hours ago…fuck.[/quote]
I think I might be able to comment on the growing without a huge base part… I used superdrol in HS, grew like a weed… but I lost everything due to lack of diet and training ethic post cycle. I didn’t know what I was doing, plain and simple… and I gained 18 lbs and 40 lbs on my bench in 4 weeks.
I have confidence (not cockiness) that I will succeed and I’ll make you eat your words sir!
BTW I’ll be posting progress pics every other week once I start pinning.
I live in central time zone… so i’m only one hour past bedtime. But yeah… this site is addicting
bump to try to get my new avatar to display
[quote]kayveeay wrote:
What’s hilarious is that you’re encenuating my body is in horrible condition. Yours is something to build a shrine to?
You obviously haven’t read my log yet, or you would eat your words, as I think it’s obvious I “know what the hell I’m doing”
You know a thing or two about 'roids? Enlighten me. Your metaphor sucks. What makes steroids a coat of paint? Steroids could easily be considered putting up new wood for your goddamn barn.
As a fairly capable MMA practitioner, I would easily and gladly…
Actually, fuck it. Why don’t you just go grab yourself a nice big cup of SHUT THE FUCK UP.
[/quote]
If you’re already so hostile, I bet you’re never even gonna finish your cycle because someone who really knows shit about fighting will tear you a new one for beeing a little cockhead.
[quote]Kataklysm wrote:
kayveeay wrote:
What’s hilarious is that you’re encenuating my body is in horrible condition. Yours is something to build a shrine to?
You obviously haven’t read my log yet, or you would eat your words, as I think it’s obvious I “know what the hell I’m doing”
You know a thing or two about 'roids? Enlighten me. Your metaphor sucks. What makes steroids a coat of paint? Steroids could easily be considered putting up new wood for your goddamn barn.
As a fairly capable MMA practitioner, I would easily and gladly…
Actually, fuck it. Why don’t you just go grab yourself a nice big cup of SHUT THE FUCK UP.
If you’re already so hostile, I bet you’re never even gonna finish your cycle because someone who really knows shit about fighting will tear you a new one for beeing a little cockhead. [/quote]
This is the only post on this thread that I’ve gotten pissed about. Some dude trying to tell me what is a good physique… seriously?
Also, I don’t street fight much, I only spar, where “tearing someone a new one” isn’t really an option. Street fighting is absolutely stupid and I’d never get into one unless absolutely necessary.
Eventually I’d like to compete but I don’t have my grappling game down yet. You don’t know me so don’t encenuate that I can’t fight or that I’d get my ass kicked.
It’s INSINUATE.
The reason why people are trying vehemently to dissuade you from using AAS is because it is very apparent from your level of development that you know little to nothing about training or diet. I’m sorry. Sometimes the truth hurts.
You’re not “knowledgeable” about steroids. You are able to convincingly parrot (read: copy and paste) a beginner’s cycle along with use of ancillary drugs which is exceedingly simple just by utilizing a simple search on this site, or even perusing the stickies.
Doesn’t make you “knowledgeable”. Knowledgeable implies firsthand experience, which you have none.
I will echo the other’s sentiments: you are not ready. I know you will not listen to me. Or anyone else. Please spare me one of your witty retorts. But maybe in retrospect it will make sense why there is a tidal wave of knowledgeable (actual, not purported) critics crashing down against you, yet you stand alone on the beach.
Those are the smallest 17 inch arms I’ve seen
[quote]Handsome Rob 84 wrote:
Those are the smallest 17 inch arms I’ve seen[/quote]
Watch out Rob! He is a “capable MMA practitioner” and will “easily and gladly…”
…do something to you???
[quote]kayveeay wrote:
As a fairly capable MMA practitioner, I would easily and gladly…
Actually, fuck it. Why don’t you just go grab yourself a nice big cup of SHUT THE FUCK UP.
[/quote]
Bro, your age shows. I read this thread, and can’t believe the good advice they been giving you. Your body doesn’t even look like it’s been even worked out much(no muscle maturity) You want to do AAS?
Your attitude is aggressive now, how will you control it? At your age you test levels are high to begin with. Do you know what a blood profile looks like and how to read it? You talk about MMA(which I support and think it is positive thing for a young guy) and then you threaten someone.
Then, I hope this isn’t a misprint"I never been in a streetfight" Dude, what is wrong with you? You ask for advice, you got it and now you don’t want to hear it. Don’t ask for the obivious and get mad. Chalk this up for a learning experience.
Bulk. Most guys here would say I’m a piece of shit. so you shoud bulk because they’d say I’m a scrawny piece of faggot shit. So you shoud bulk, befor ethey say you’re a 4.0 or 3.8 or some shit before they rate you as a 4.0 or 3.8 because they could get a 6.0 or some shit beause they have a higher faggot rating.
Stay off the sauce, you’ll be thankful in the long run. You may “know” what you’re doing, but that doesn’t make up for the lack of time spent training. Get in the kitchen and the gym, evaluate in a few years, then hit the sauce if you feel so inclined. You starting a cycle now, is like blowing your load before you’re in a vagina.
[quote]AccipiterQ wrote:
Bulk. Most guys here would say I’m a piece of shit. so you shoud bulk because they’d say I’m a scrawny piece of faggot shit. So you shoud bulk, befor ethey say you’re a 4.0 or 3.8 or some shit before they rate you as a 4.0 or 3.8 because they could get a 6.0 or some shit beause they have a higher faggot rating.[/quote]
Dude, judging from all your posts and threads, you’ve got some serious depression issues. Please, do not shoot up a schoolyard. Seek help.