Alright well i read the newbie cycle thread but decided I still want to hear people’s feedback in regards to what i am considering taking…I have taken a cycle before (sust/winstrol) about 2 years ago i have been lifting for about 6 years with some time off, not much.
I have a bottle of tren e and a bottle of test but the more i research the more i don’t know what to do about it… i was going to buy nolvadex and letrozole but I am not too sure of when to start taking it after or during? Im not a bodybuilder or a strength fanatic im about 6’0 190 right now at my biggest i was 222 after the sust about a year and a half ago.
my bench is around 215 for reps. im just trying to get to a certain point with myself and then maintain it because without a little help its nearly impossible to see the results i want, or so i think
If this is all just a bad idea feel free to say that as well
You have been training for 6 years with hardly even a base to show for it (at least not an “I’m ready for AAS” base) You don’t have nearly enough gear to finish a proper cycle, hardly enough to even start one, unless your vials are 50ml ones, which I highly doubt.
You don’t know what ancillaries to take or when. You have letrozole in there instead of arimidex or aromasin or something that is not going to eliminate 98% of your estrogen at a pop. And you posted a question asking for advice without putting all kinds of needed relevant information in there so we could help you.
You need to spend a lot more time in the nutrition and bodybuilding forums and a lot less time here, I think.
I am back from vacation guys. Spent quite a bit of time at the beach now time to tear into some of these kids, oh looka there here is one now.
Judging by your opening post (after i re-read it 5 times because I really was unsure what in the world you were trying to say) I strongly doubt you should go the route you are headed. Listen to cortes, he knows what he is talking about.
Lets say even if you feel you have spent enough time in the gym… You dont have enough knowledge of AAS to use them properly. Try researching some more on PCT then give us a proposed cycle (THIS TIME INCLUDING SPECS ABOUT YOURSELF AND MORE THAN UHH I HAVE A BOTTLE OF TREN AND TEST WHAT DO I DO) and we can go from there.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
Sounds like a pretty bad idea to me.
You have been training for 6 years with hardly even a base to show for it (at least not an “I’m ready for AAS” base) You don’t have nearly enough gear to finish a proper cycle, hardly enough to even start one, unless your vials are 50ml ones, which I highly doubt.
You don’t know what ancillaries to take or when. You have letrozole in there instead of arimidex or aromasin or something that is not going to eliminate 98% of your estrogen at a pop. And you posted a question asking for advice without putting all kinds of needed relevant information in there so we could help you.
You need to spend a lot more time in the nutrition and bodybuilding forums and a lot less time here, I think.[/quote]
I have a question for ya cortes. lol
I’ve heard that letro can help with prolactin/progesterone induced sides from the tren. I know bromo and caber is always recommended.
But if this is true of letro, even if it is such a harsh drug on estrogen, could it be used in replace of adex or asin in a test/tren cycle. Kind of combine the AI and anti-prolactin drug in one?
I have a friend who has gyno from puberty, a regular aas user and he was telling me he is planning a test/tren cycle and when I asked what he’d be taking as far as estrogen and progesterone/prolactin sides he told me letro for the reason I explained above. He also said he’s hoping to get rid of some of his gyno with this cycle. I think he’s nuts but who knows…lol
[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
2 vials? What about your PCT? Do you have a concrete idea of what you want to achieve? On a side note, damn Gerdy is that you? you sexy bitch you! lol[/quote]
lol u know i love it when you talk dirty
yea thats me from saturday. took 2nd in the lt heavies…
There’s plenty more where that came from right on, shit second place and you’re still natural. I give you a round of applause. Hey guys, I’ve got a vial of test, 27 drol tabs, and a hand full of tic tacs what do y’all think? lol sorry.
OMG! we’ll probably cycle on around the same time, actually I’ll probably leap into “the Darkside” a wee bit earlier. What are you running? oops, we just thread jacked homie.
Sorry that i seem to have offended half of you and sorry for being new to this forum and not knowing all the rules and what needed to be included in them.
I’m not a steroid master and i figured this could be just as beneficial as researching myself because people have more to say than some websites do.
a simple don’t do it or your nuts will fall off or your heart will stop beating would have been sufficient the fact that anyone spent their time slightly trying to make me look like an asshole makes them just shitty people
i posted here for peoples help not their criticism because i was pretty sure thats what the forum is for.
[quote]theking328 wrote:
Sorry that i seem to have offended half of you and sorry for being new to this forum and not knowing all the rules and what needed to be included in them.
I’m not a steroid master and i figured this could be just as beneficial as researching myself because people have more to say than some websites do.
a simple don’t do it or your nuts will fall off or your heart will stop beating would have been sufficient the fact that anyone spent their time slightly trying to make me look like an asshole makes them just shitty people
i posted here for peoples help not their criticism because i was pretty sure thats what the forum is for.
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Being new does not excuse you from understanding what information we need to provide appropriate information.
Asking question and prior research should go hand in hand. If you don’t do your own research how will you know if the advice provided is conducive to your goals?
How would any of us saying “don’t do it” help you at all? You didn’t ask a yes or no question, so you shouldn’t expect a yes or no response. No one is going to tell you that you that your “nuts will fall off” or your “heart will stop beating” because that can’t physically happen; research would have told you that.
On T-Nation criticism = help. Don’t take it personally.
[quote]judgeroybean wrote:
Home skillet i researched for exactly one year before cycling.
And i believe the suggestion was to do your own home work on cyle and pct then come back with a game plan.
Really with out enough knowledge no matter what some one suggests you could still fuck your self up.
GYNO ETC. ETC.
AND “DAMN MY GERDY”!![/quote]
lol what the fuck judge? I wasn’t trying to be an ass but from my understanding, although limited to the the tough cunt club according to Rainjack, one must have some sort of knowledge prior to posting a thread asking for advice regarding AAS protocol. Do some more research and come on back.
Why would it be a bad idea? If u do a small cycle for a few months nothing is going to happen to u unless u have something wrong w/u already. I would suggest getting ur diet as close to perfect as u can before starting. I have found that the better ur diet the less anabolics u need for the same results. Good luck.
right on, shit second place and you’re still natural. I give you a round of applause. Hey guys, I’ve got a vial of test, 27 drol tabs, and a hand full of tic tacs what do y’all think? lol sorry.
lol