im 20yrs old 215 at 5’10" 10% bf.ive been training for five years naturally. I some how found myself with access to some gear for cheap.I am planning on doing
weeks 1-4
700mg test enanthate
25mg dbol ed
nolvadex 10mg ed
weeks 4-10
700mg test enanthate
taking clomid for 4 weeks after last injection.now im not sure how long I should stay on the nolvadex. i know this cycle will shut me down hard.A few of my friends have done identical cycles and had good results while “on” but didnt follow any pct.i just want to do everything right and retain most of my gains.any insight from the vets would be very helpful.
not bad for a first cycle ever. try adding some tren or eq in there and you’ll get massive. my vote would be for the tren @ 100mgs ED and you’ll get really strong too. try running the nolva at 20mgs ED and if you can get enough clomid, run it al the way through your cycle. In my past, at least, I’ve had a better post recovery if i ran clomid during the whole cycle.
thanks for the advice Johnny.so just to clarify what you said. its better to run clomid and nolvadex through my entire cycle? then clomid for post cylce.
well just from what I’ve had experience with, if I ran clomid throughout the entire cycle, I would recover a lot faster post cycle. and yes definately run nolva the entire cycle at 20mgs ED. good luck buddy
First off, if you plan to hit the Clomid for PCT, don’t start on the day of your last injection. Hit your Clomid about 2 weeks AFTER your last injection. This is because of Enanthate’s long half-life.
Second, I don’t find it necessary to run Nolvadex throughout your entire cycle. Every individual has different sensitives to certain chemicals. I personally have never used Nolvadex through my cycles, and have only used it during PCT (where natural test levels are insanely low and estrogen levels can be extremely high), and my cycles are MUCH higher in strength/dose.
Johnny had a great suggestion, but I say start your Nolvadex at 10mg per day only, IF you must use it. Then work your way up if you find it necessary. You would be better off hitting 1 or 2 shots of HCG during your cycle than using Clomid to help recover better/faster during PCT. Good luck.
Just to add to this discussion:
This is how i use nolvadex. Generally i hold off on it until my nipples start to get sensitive or itchy. Then, i take a full 20mg dose or sometimes even a bit more to frontload it (1-2 days of frontload is all you need). Nolvadex has a half life of 4 days so i like to get the levels of it in me up quickly once i know that i need it (would be a shame to start sporting some boob) and then after that i will drop it down to a maintenance dose of like 10mg/day and bring it up if the sensitivity comes back. This has worked quite well for me.
JP
yeah MASS has a good point. every person’s body is different. just try different things (within reason) and see what works for you. I’m paranoid about gyno cause I’m very sensitive to estrogen side effects so i run arimidex and sometimes nolva all through my cycle just to be safe. you may not need all that. He had a good point about the HCG though, I wasn’t even thinkin of that. but good luck man