[quote]Professor X wrote:
Massive explosions and special effects with little to no story suck ass. [/quote]
How many times must this actually be stated? It’s ridiculous and yet Hollywood still doesn’t get it.
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[quote]hockechamp14 wrote:
I was so anxious for the first 30 minutes, I wanted iron man to go bust some ass! Seriously though, I think the movie would have been a lot better like this:
Open up with iron man arming his suit, going into battle against some minor enemy, maybe even borrow someone relatively weak in iron man terms from another story (Lizard from spiderman or something?) 10 minute flashback about how he got there, then he goes and kicks some ass. From there, you can develop any internal conflict in Stark Enterprises, develop a villain, and do a cool battle.[/quote]
There’s no way that would work because they needed time to establish the fact that he’s an incredible prick at first, and then humble him by way of being injured and busting out of captivity. On top of that, even without knowing the backstory the filmmakers and Jeff Bridges do a great job of letting you know Obie is doing things behind Stark’s back.
You sound like Obie grilling his engineers in the movie. Iron Man would’ve mopped the floor with Iron Monger if Stark had his updated arc reactor, but that wouldn’t make for much of a climax. It’s part of the formula of storytelling, like Maximus getting shanked by Commodus before their big fight in Gladiator.
You can thank Sony for that bullshit.
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Anyone notice Obidiah had a ring on, similar to the guy who get’s burnt in the beginining?
I thought the movie was great I liked how they incorporated Tales 39, Armor Wars, and Iron Man 200(Iron Monger vs Iron Man and the introduction of the Silver Centurian armor)
Rhodey it’s me
No you see you don’t put your toys into my wartzone
No Rhodey it’s me!
Sir we have visual it looks like a man
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I think too many today want nothing but explosions and CGI effects in a movie.
We have seen many times that this does NOT work and sucks in terms of a movie. Terminator 3 is a prime example. Solid story lines are a good thing, not a negative.
Massive explosions and special effects with little to no story suck ass. [/quote]
I think that ppl have been beeten down so much by SFX and how good they are that they take them for granted. Thats why I really enjoyed the new Rambo. Just Blood and Guts and Spit and Ass every where.
Seriously though… no one was bothered by the Jeff Bridges being a villain? I burst out laughing twice mid-rant. The Dude is just not a very convincing evil megalomaniac.
/shrug/
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
Seriously though… no one was bothered by the Jeff Bridges being a villain? I burst out laughing twice mid-rant. The Dude is just not a very convincing evil megalomaniac.
/shrug/[/quote]
I thought the Dude did fine as a villain 
jpb
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
Seriously though… no one was bothered by the Jeff Bridges being a villain? I burst out laughing twice mid-rant. The Dude is just not a very convincing evil megalomaniac.
/shrug/[/quote]
I liked him as the villain as well.
Yeah, Jeff Bridges made a good villain. Especially with the bald head. He definitely looked the part.
Yeah, i think the gymnastics coach from “Stick it” did a great job as the villain, but who the hell is the dude ?
–JB
edit:Clearly joking, and the only reason i know he was in stick it is that i was dating a gymnast who thought that movie was the 2nd coming.
I liked the fact that there weren’t a huge amount of blazing action scenes.
They were few and far between so it actually made you enjoy them even more and really savour the details.
[quote]WS4JB wrote:
Yeah, i think the gymnastics coach from “Stick it” did a great job as the villain, but who the hell is the dude ?
–JB[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
hockechamp14 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
zarrs wrote:
I did not like it, the first 30 min were good the last 10min were good but the rest of the movie was rather slow. I want my $14 back
LOL!!!
I was waiting for ONE person to write this, I am amazed it took this long…which is really saying something.
I was so anxious for the first 30 minutes, I wanted iron man to go bust some ass! Seriously though, I think the movie would have been a lot better like this:
Open up with iron man arming his suit, going into battle against some minor enemy, maybe even borrow someone relatively weak in iron man terms from another story (Lizard from spiderman or something?) 10 minute flashback about how he got there, then he goes and kicks some ass. From there, you can develop any internal conflict in Stark Enterprises, develop a villain, and do a cool battle.
It was really cool, but I was totally let down by the battle at the end. 1. Come on, they can’t even build the damn power source! Are you serious that Tony wasn’t mopping the floor with his ass? He uses his suit to go fight galactus! Crap like that “other” suit could have been easily defeated by spider man (without his enhanced powers from the last couple years)
I am happy that both men only had their helmets removed once during battle. In spider man I was so puzzled why they kept showing everyones faces. It was like they thought the audience was going to forget who everyone was!
I think too many today want nothing but explosions and CGI effects in a movie.
We have seen many times that this does NOT work and sucks in terms of a movie. Terminator 3 is a prime example. Solid story lines are a good thing, not a negative.
Massive explosions and special effects with little to no story suck ass. [/quote]
I actually really really enjoyed all the tony stark scenes. It’s just all that time in the cave made me want to go to sleep. I know what’s going to happen gosh I saw the commercial! Lol
Also, if you watch an hour and a half where there’s not much in the way of action, aside from Tony making people look like a bunch of schmucks (twice), there better be some kind of climatic battle at the end. I mean, I wanted someone who could possibly beat Iron Man at full power. In the early spider-man books, they’d have him hurt his ankle, run out of web and stuff in order to make him look more super because he still wins out against the bad guys. Well, that’s not really necessary when you see the guy get hit by a tank shell then get up like he just tripped onto some soft mats.
meh…i enjoyed the movie, but it was a little propaganda-ish, no? Blah blah blah, brown people with weapons are the source of the world’s problems, we’d better get BIGGER weapons…
Enjoyable film, but hardly an original plotline. Buncha fuckin’ sheep y’all are.
[quote]NeelyDan wrote:
meh…i enjoyed the movie, but it was a little propaganda-ish, no? Blah blah blah, brown people with weapons are the source of the world’s problems, we’d better get BIGGER weapons…
Enjoyable film, but hardly an original plotline. Buncha fuckin’ sheep y’all are.[/quote]
You do realize that plot line was written about 50 years ago? It is the original plot line.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
NeelyDan wrote:
meh…i enjoyed the movie, but it was a little propaganda-ish, no? Blah blah blah, brown people with weapons are the source of the world’s problems, we’d better get BIGGER weapons…
Enjoyable film, but hardly an original plotline. Buncha fuckin’ sheep y’all are.
You do realize that plot line was written about 50 years ago? It is the original plot line.[/quote]
Which just shows that there is nothing new under the sun.
Meaning, it worked then and it works now.
Not that I do not see that this story has a pretty grown up approach to this.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
NeelyDan wrote:
meh…i enjoyed the movie, but it was a little propaganda-ish, no? Blah blah blah, brown people with weapons are the source of the world’s problems, we’d better get BIGGER weapons…
Enjoyable film, but hardly an original plotline. Buncha fuckin’ sheep y’all are.
You do realize that plot line was written about 50 years ago? It is the original plot line.[/quote]
That’s why it was so cool, they didn’t change the storyline, they even kill the prof in order for him to fully charge the suit. Plus they incorporated parts of Armor Wars, and Iron Man 200 where Tony fights the Iron Monger.
I finally saw it. Excellent, excellent movie. The best marvel movie bar none!
Jeff Bridges was fantastic. When he was on-screen with Downey, I thought he stole the show.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
NeelyDan wrote:
meh…i enjoyed the movie, but it was a little propaganda-ish, no? Blah blah blah, brown people with weapons are the source of the world’s problems, we’d better get BIGGER weapons…
Enjoyable film, but hardly an original plotline. Buncha fuckin’ sheep y’all are.
You do realize that plot line was written about 50 years ago? It is the original plot line.[/quote]
No, I did not realize this. Doesn’t really change the point of my post, though. It’s release to the public amid an existing sea of these sorts of themes is just sort of redundant.
Not that a guy should expect too much from a superhero flick, just an observation and a reflection of my own feelings about there being far too many weapons in the world.