Just Got Robbed

[quote]LTKO wrote:
yup,thanks for the replies. like i said, its a lesson learnt. i’m embarassed and feel freaking stupid for doing it(i’ve always done it in the past and nothing happened before…ignorance i guess, so i thought nothing of it). so yea, it was a new experience and like some of you guys said, thankfully it was a cheap lesson. so i take it most of you guys would have not done anything? considering the amount of cash in the wallet. so i guess i won’t be a pussy/not a man if i didnt do anything? just to clarify things up.

and to thebodyguard: so what do you think i should have done in this case then. though its pretty cool that you’ll take them all by yourself for disrepecting you. the money didnt actually concern me, but it was the disrepect/loss of pride that i felt actually. i can’t really explain it, but hope you get it.[/quote]

You should do that which is comfortable for you which I assume you did. I don’t know if I could “take them all by myself” but seriously, I am not afraid of 3 regular sized guys and the average guy is untrained. Whatever the outcome, it will not be 3 on 1 the whole way. That’s what I’m counting on. I am not saying this is a wise course of action, but I cannot stand being disrespected - so yeah, I “get” what you were feeling. If I didn’t think I could take them, I’d find something/anything to smash their fucking skulls in - that’s how much I “get it” and how strongly I feel about some random motherfucker trying to fuck up my otherwise peaceful day.

However, you have no reason for a loss of pride. You made a mistake, you confronted them within your ability, and no one could fault you for not confronting them at all. Your pride should be fully intact. Money can be replaced. That 3 scum bags took your money and outnumbered you in the ensuing confrontation in no way makes you a lesser man. If you never want to ball your fist in anger ever in your life, if you always walk away, it does not make you less of a man - probably makes you more of a man, and more human.

When my two oldest boys were younger, I wanted to teach them never to take any shit. I even remember making them fight together once when some little punk was picking on one of them. Yeah, I was an asshole. More than anything, I just wanted them to stand up for themselves - to never be victimized. As they got older, I just hoped they would never have to stand up for themselves. That they could avoid trouble or “walk away”. My oldest is a sweetheart of a kid. If you don’t like him, you got a problem. He wouldn’t bother anyone. My second is a sweetheart, but more aggressive, but still not a troublemaker. The point is, I don’t want either of them ever around violence. I want them to walk away. So why should you carry this false loss of pride around that you did not engage in violence?

The measure of a man is more than his willingness to engage in violence. The measure of a man is found in his compassion for his fellow man, among other things. Any asshole can be violent. You sound like you’re an alright guy…and you sound like most would feel if they had been victimized. If I were you, I wouldn’t change a thing other than being more aware of your surroundings - more vigilant. And I’m happy to hear you’re unscathed for the experience.

Personally, I wish I could walk away. I’ve never been able to. Maybe someday.ccc

So, I was on tour with the band. Had a show in Colorado Springs, CO. Drove to the mall to sell cd’s, shirts, etc before the show to get a little extra cash. Plus promote the show and hopefully attract a couple new people to come to the venue. Left the mall and came back to the van. Saw our back van doors were open a little bit. Crowbar marks on the side of the door.(Yes, the doors were locked) Laptop, Ipod, clothes, guitar and a bass guitar was stolen.

Standing around, wondering how we’d find out who the fuck did it, we turned to mall security… Surprisingly a patrolling mall cop stopped the kids and asked what they were doing. Coy little bastards said they were watching the van for their friends. He told them to beat it anyways, but he was smart enough to take a description of the car and a license plate number. We turned that information into the cops and even though it took all night, we got our stuff back and the kids were charged.

BUT… had we been back to our van a little sooner, it would have been a 5(us) on 3(them) fisticuff. Every once in a while, I wish that would have happened, very badly. Being on the road is tough and poor enough. Anyways, go mall security and cops. Boo you poor little bastards who break into vans and steal people’s hard earned shit.

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

His question was “what would you do”. I’m not 18. There were 3. I’m 265-270. I’m trained.
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Can I ask what sort of training you’ve had?[/quote]

Internet Juitsu Everybody on the internet is well versed in it

[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

His question was “what would you do”. I’m not 18. There were 3. I’m 265-270. I’m trained.
[/quote]

Can I ask what sort of training you’ve had?[/quote]

Internet Juitsu Everybody on the internet is well versed in it[/quote]

In this case, I’d bet otherwise.

Anyway my buddy was just telling me today how he got robbed, twice - in the same afternoon. First time he got a couple hundred dollars stolen at shotgun point. Next he got his car stolen in North East Philly via AK-47 hijack. The cops found the car a couple hours later, just a couple blocks away, but still… Anyway I’d say you had a very small loss as far as robbery is concerned.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]LTKO wrote:
yup,thanks for the replies. like i said, its a lesson learnt. i’m embarassed and feel freaking stupid for doing it(i’ve always done it in the past and nothing happened before…ignorance i guess, so i thought nothing of it). so yea, it was a new experience and like some of you guys said, thankfully it was a cheap lesson. so i take it most of you guys would have not done anything? considering the amount of cash in the wallet. so i guess i won’t be a pussy/not a man if i didnt do anything? just to clarify things up.

and to thebodyguard: so what do you think i should have done in this case then. though its pretty cool that you’ll take them all by yourself for disrepecting you. the money didnt actually concern me, but it was the disrepect/loss of pride that i felt actually. i can’t really explain it, but hope you get it.[/quote]

You should do that which is comfortable for you which I assume you did. I don’t know if I could “take them all by myself” but seriously, I am not afraid of 3 regular sized guys and the average guy is untrained. Whatever the outcome, it will not be 3 on 1 the whole way. That’s what I’m counting on. I am not saying this is a wise course of action, but I cannot stand being disrespected - so yeah, I “get” what you were feeling. If I didn’t think I could take them, I’d find something/anything to smash their fucking skulls in - that’s how much I “get it” and how strongly I feel about some random motherfucker trying to fuck up my otherwise peaceful day.

However, you have no reason for a loss of pride. You made a mistake, you confronted them within your ability, and no one could fault you for not confronting them at all. Your pride should be fully intact. Money can be replaced. That 3 scum bags took your money and outnumbered you in the ensuing confrontation in no way makes you a lesser man. If you never want to ball your fist in anger ever in your life, if you always walk away, it does not make you less of a man - probably makes you more of a man, and more human.

When my two oldest boys were younger, I wanted to teach them never to take any shit. I even remember making them fight together once when some little punk was picking on one of them. Yeah, I was an asshole. More than anything, I just wanted them to stand up for themselves - to never be victimized. As they got older, I just hoped they would never have to stand up for themselves. That they could avoid trouble or “walk away”. My oldest is a sweetheart of a kid. If you don’t like him, you got a problem. He wouldn’t bother anyone. My second is a sweetheart, but more aggressive, but still not a troublemaker. The point is, I don’t want either of them ever around violence. I want them to walk away. So why should you carry this false loss of pride around that you did not engage in violence?

The measure of a man is more than his willingness to engage in violence. The measure of a man is found in his compassion for his fellow man, among other things. Any asshole can be violent. You sound like you’re an alright guy…and you sound like most would feel if they had been victimized. If I were you, I wouldn’t change a thing other than being more aware of your surroundings - more vigilant. And I’m happy to hear you’re unscathed for the experience.

Personally, I wish I could walk away. I’ve never been able to. Maybe someday.ccc[/quote]

yea i dont like violence but i was just afraid that i would be less of a man if i just let ppl like them take advantage of a weakness/mistake. but i see the truth in your words, and yup. i shall try to change that mindset. i also do hope id never have to resort to violence and use other tatics, whether walking away or talking to them. but i guess ill learn more of that while growing up. thanks for writing that. enlightening post.

[quote]Soulja874 wrote:
I never really understood why people put money or anything else that’s valuable some where other than their pockets. Life lesson learned, move on, be glad you did get your ass beat, ect ect ect[/quote]

Somebody I eat lunch with at school was telling me how he ran the pockets of all the unlocked lockers at his gym… Scumbag shit but Its challenging to be empathetic. Its hard for me to imagine how sheltered some people can be, the suburbs are some shit man. I cannot fathom leaving anything in an unlocked public locker.

For what its worth though, this kid is a pretty splitting image of the Henry Hill portrayed in GoodFellas and hes a pretty hilarious character. I also find it funny how he gets good grades and is on his way to a good college despite all the shit he gets into. He knows the chief of police or some shit… And the chief of police’s son is doing the same shit he is… the picture is really hilarious when you step back and look at it.

[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

His question was “what would you do”. I’m not 18. There were 3. I’m 265-270. I’m trained.
[/quote]

Can I ask what sort of training you’ve had?[/quote]

Internet Juitsu Everybody on the internet is well versed in it[/quote]

I actually studied that once and it’s really not effective. All it ever taught me was how to troll serious posts and post stupid shit and not so veiled insults in response. I’d be on the Internet for hours either outright making stuff up and when that wellspring ran dry, I’d just troll. Of course this all ocurred after I jerked off to hours of porn as a form of “Internet conditioning / intervals”. Don’t laugh; after training it serious for just a few months, like you, I could troll the Internet and never fatigue. Naw, I never studied it, just kidding. Boxing when I was younger. Kickboxing under my good friend Terry Grimwood (his late wife one of the all time great female powerlifters RIP) - free Terry Grimwood, some muay Thai (my favorite) and just enough ground work to get by.

[quote]johnconkle wrote:
Honestly, I would never have confronted them. Is 20+ bucks worth dying over, potentially?

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Yes - because it is about more than just 20 bucks. It is the principle of the matter; that being they violated your sovereign right to property. Plus, if they get away with it they will do it again. Confront them, fight them - even if they win and they are less likely to do this to another person. Doing nothing makes the problem worse.