Just got my Test C! First Injection - Have a few questions that I would love to have ANSWERED PLEASE! Im begging for replies!

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EDIT* Please take a look at my questions in my 2nd and 4th posts below in the thread. I could REALLY use some advice from the people on here that know whats up… Really, Please read and respond. I would GREATLY appreciate the time and effort for everyones knowledge and input - Thanks.

So I got my scrip for my doc. 100mg a week test c. I just popped the first .5ml in my ass about 20 min ago.

So I was like 250 range test levels… When should I notice a difference? How long does it take to kick in?

How should I store my test? In the fridge?

I didnt get much info from my doc… just the scropt… I even tried to get hCG and Adex but no go… he said at such a low dose, and my test being as low as it is… side effects are unlikley and I only need the other dugs besides test if im using it to gain muscle.

I dunno… Im just happy im on test. Hopefully I start to feel better soon.

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I started at 247. Brain fog disappeared in 2-3 days. Had a placebo effect for a week. About two weeks in, nothing was happening. Thought, crap, bad gear.

Third week starting having boners like you see in “those movies”. Kept telling everyone, “you cannot believe how good I feel.”

Your mileage may vary.

Welcome aboard. Carry on!

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Thanks for the reply.

I have a bunch of noobish little questions and ideas, would love some input for my questions, If you guys dont mind taking the time, Id like for a few people to chime in and give some advice. I would really appreciate it… Im very excited that I get to start my TRT… Im 27 years old… Im too young to need to take viagra. lol

Here is one thing that kinda … weirded me out… The size of the needles the gave me… they gave me a long skinny one to pull the test out of the bottle, and a short fat one to inject… isnt that backwards? Shouldn’t it be long and fat to withdrawl and short and skinny to inject?..

Grabbing the syringes…

Withdrawal syringe is a 1.5in 23G needle.

Inject syringe is a 1in 18G needle.

Is that right? When I saw how thick it was compared to my slin pin I psyched myself out, had to have my dad pop it in my ass (No pun).
Ill man up and do it myself next time… But should I call my doc? I know that costco had an issue and a mix up with the needles and needed to call my doc and there was a huge issue and I had to wait over an hour… Im wondering if they messed up… I dont care if I have to stab myself with an 18G,… as long as I can get the test in me :slight_smile:

One last thing… Any youtbe videos or tricks on how to get every last drop out of the vial ? Each vial is enough for two injections, so I wanna make suer I get every drop out of the vial., and every drop out of the needle and syringe… Im treating this stuff like gold. haha.

Side note… long story short, iv mentioned in other posts,… I have crohns disease, lost 80lbs, lost all my muscle, and have been laying on a couch for the last year doing nothing, still in a “flared” state. It hasn’t healed yet basically. So I cant even do a wide gripped pullup or a set of 10 pushups. I think i have muscle atrophy…

Anyway… If I start lifting again, (I purchased a golds gym bench with percher curl and squat station and 300lbs of weight. {Olympic bar size}) with muscle memory, and now with the added test injections (even though its not 500mg a week) like a real cycle, Im wondering if I can get and gains form it, and get back into lifting. Maybe put SOME muscle on.

Which leads me to… Stacking any OTC products or something like dbol with the TRT to get some size gains…or at least kinda get back to where I was before I got sick… (I would do it “natty” but to be honest, I dont wanna work and eat my ass off natty, to lose it all again when my crohns heats up again and I lose a bunch of weight. - long story short, I havent been eating, so im going to start eating like a beast again, eat clean, lifting, and now im on test… I wanna plump up and look good… Wondering what I can look into. How to run it, purly for extra size, and then get it out before the blood draw. I know that everyone says dbol only cycles or PHs like Helladrol are pointless trash without a test base… so can I use my TRT considered as a test base and stack on top of it for size gain? (I hope all that made sense) - Im just weak, tired, sick, skinny, and I want to get back to where I was before I was hospitalized and almost died cus this F’ing crohns disease. I was even thinking of adding in some peptides (they are legal to order for like Ar-R anyway right? and insulin? I dunno how to spell it… I just wanna get up and running again.

Also… Is it wise to cut down on the last injection of test before my next blood work, so my levels are lower for the blood draw? Maybe I can convince the doc to up the test from 100mgs a week to 150 a week or something? Im just hoping that muscle memory, starting to eat again, lifting, added 100mgs of test will result in some very quick noticeable size gains.

Also again… Test storage? Fridge? or just in a closet cool and dry place?

Again, I really appreciate the time to read my jumbled up questions and giveing some info. I feel like its christmas early. This is the first happiness like something good is happening in over a year!!! I actually had a tear or two when my doc said yes to my script… I have been feeling like complete shit… was even having thoughts of suicide about 8 months ago when I had found out my ex was cheating on my with a personal trainer when I was dying in the hospital… So this is a huge hopeful moment for me… I hope that this is magic juice thats going to help get me feeling better, help me get my dick up… I tried having sex with this hot asian girl last week and couldn’t even get all the way hard, then went soft inside her… worst feeling ever. and she was my rebound sex… hot. New… I should have been rock hard… Ugh… what an embarrassment.

Ill will have a lot more questions to come, so I hope please, that people will actually RESPOND to this thread, and help out, and not end up having 500 views and only 2 replies. :frowning: Because I could really use all the help I could get.

Again. I am so appreciative of anyone willing to help me achieve what im looking for, advice, cautions. support. Anything… Just Thank you. and Soon, I pray every day. Soon, I will be able to live somewhat of a normal life again very soon.

I feel blessed, I even prayed last night for the first time in my life. I hope that this is finally the first step to getting off this couch, and back out into life. Back to being in shape, and having self-confidence once again.

Thank you for taking the time to read all of my ranting and questions. And your replies.

-DMagic.

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18G needle! I’ve heard that those will tear up your stopper if u use them to load… Jamming one into yourself! Good God man! Pretty sure someone screwed up somewhere. Do your ass a favor and go get some thinner needles!

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[quote]WNYdave wrote:
18G needle! I’ve heard that those will tear up your stopper if u use them to load… Jamming one into yourself! Good God man! Pretty sure someone screwed up somewhere. Do your ass a favor and go get some thinner needles! [/quote]

Could you please advise. the exact length and Gage needle I need to load, and length/gage to inject. So that I can call my doc on monday and make the switch.

To be honest. When my dad slammed the 18g in my ass, I didnt even feel it. So ill live with it if I have to… and the stopper should be fine with using the 23g to load right?

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Are you injecting IM I’m guessing, or SC? I’ve been on shots for a week, so probably not the best to advise. Many now do frequent SC shots for it’s slow release and lower conversion rates. Even loading and injecting with a 29G needle. Did u read the “stickies”. Extremely informative. They’re the first bunch of post. Pretty sure u don’t need a script to get needles. Was told I can purchase 10 at a time. I have good insurance and needles aren’t covered for me, so doubt many would have them covered.

They are cheap anyway, so you can try what ya want to. I’m still learning too. I think we’ve come the the right place for help though. You’re sexual problems could be in at least some part in your head. Generally nerves and pressure to perform is the only thing that really stopped me from being able to perform, but desire certainly fluctuated with what ever was happening with my hormones. I was still horny with my total T at 90 so am a believer in sexual ability and desire having a lot more to do with DHT and most importantly Estrogen.

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WOW 18g …in the ass… Thats really taking one for the team lol …anyway … 22g to draw out of bottle with length doesn’t matter … 25g 1 inch to inject into buttocks (unless you carry a lot of fat then 1.5 inch). You can call your doc if you want but the internet has plenty of places to buy them from and they are FAR cheaper than the pharmacy.

p.s. your doc has a lot to learn about trt…but at least he is willing to help (at least a little) …an AI might be needed later…

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Could someone please help by positing a link to a trusted us dealer online to purchase a few 1" 25g needle heads for injecting. Well actually.

How about just the whole set. About 6 of each should do, 6 syringes, 6 heads to drawl (22g?) and 6 heads to inject should do it. I only inject 4 times a month, but 2 extra just incase of mess-ups would be nice. I think 1" should be fine, I have a little fat on my butt, its not skin tight, but im no fatass… and I do have 3 23G 1.5" syringes. and they look LONNGGGG I dont think I need to go that deep lol. I think I should be good just burring a 1 inch right into my upper cheek all the way in.

Is it ok for me to ask for a link to a good cheap trusted site? Edit A link to each specific Item I need to add to my cart. I dont want to mess up. Once I get walked though the first go-round ill know whats up from here on out…

Thanks guys. Im learning here. :slight_smile:

ALSO. I want quick SIZE! Again, for adding some quick size, trying to rehabilitate myself from laying around for a year… what about some dbol added on top of the test… or my bud was telling me about this SARM called MK-2866. Could I give my rat this test chem mixed with a trt dosage to get some strength gains… just a kick start is what im looking for and some fast size gain just for kicks. Maybe even run all 3… I know ill lose most of the dbol cus its water weight, and I dont relaly need to worry about pct cus im on TRT anyway right? Thats what I really need to learn… And as far as an AI, if I start to notice sensitivity I will call my doc up asap and make him give me a script for an AI… I would have liked to have one on hand but so be it… Ill take the 100mgs to start and im happy grabbing some dbol or research chem to get the extra punch im looking for.

Any thoughts?

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I think you need to relax and get your numbers dialed in first – this can take months to be determined. Adding anything new at this point is just going to screw up your numbers and confuse your doc even more. This isnt a quick fix! Best of luck

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You asked a lot of questions but I’ll focus on the how long til I feel it and will I make gains.

How long is totally different for everybody from everything I have researched. I’ve been on TRT for 18 months. Most report noticing benefits within 2-3 months. Like junglecamo said though, you need to get dialed in with your protocol. Hopefully you have a good MD to help you with this. It’s a bit concerning though, that you didn’t leave the office with basic understanding of important topics, like how to store your test. But it can be overwhelming so maybe you just missed it.

As far as gains, if you start training, eating properly, and getting adequate recovery, you would most likely make gains regardless of TRT. However, TRT will certainly provide some help. I’ve been training pretty hard for about 2 years - so I was 6 months into my routine and then got on TRT. I made okay noob gains prior to TRT. I felt like I got a shit ton stronger after being on TRT for about 3-4 months. More than anything, I think it helps to know you have the right balance of hormones to support gains, and this helps motivate you (it did for me anyway).

Good luck bro.

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I appreciate the responses. Ill end up taking your advice and just relax for a bit and see what happens.

Im just keeping my test in a cool dry area, also ended up with 1 1/2" 23g pins for loading. and got some new 1" 25g pins for the injections. Just did my 2nd injection last night with a 25g… (after about 5 min of just sitting there holding the pin to my ass) Im still trying to get use to the mental anxiety prior to injecting. lol. I woulda figured I would have been use to pinning now due to b12 and humera pen injections, except that was just a button I had to press on the pen, and b12 slin pins or so tiny compared to 18-25g pins, and that scarred me cus that crap HURT, the medicine itself going into my stomach burned like hell, Either way this last shot was a lot better than the 18g I used at first.

So now im trying to dial in a diet thats going to be both beneficial to my crohns and clean bulking. (In short, My crohns does not allow nutrients to be absorbed from the foods I eat) So I drink a LOT of ensures and take tons of vitamins, get iron infusions etc to try and keep nutrients in my body. And the recommended diet for being in a flared state with crohns is lots of whites. White rice, White bread, no dairy, no gluten/wheat, no nuts, no sugar, no fruit, no raw veggies, absolutely NO FIBER on and on of stuff I cant eat.

So im having a hard time trying to figure out a diet to fallow, and also trying to work out, Iv been just doing a couple pulls ups, push ups, dead lifts, mill presses thoughout the day every day. to try and get my body moving again. But I cant last long at all. 5 min and I feel like I want to pass out or throw up. so getting back on my feet is going to take a long time… Its seriously starting all over again. (ugh!)

Anyway. I havent even looked to see if there is a section for diet, and workouts, But ill be probably spending the bulk of my time in there or on the BB website trying to pin down a solid meal plan and rehab-style lifting routine.

If you have any suggestions about diet, or workout routines that will help with rehab I could use the advice. Rippetoe, p90x, insanity, etc is all just too taxing on my body right now… seriously just 3 pull ups, 5 dead lifts and 5 mil presses has me in a sleight sweat and sick feeling… Fun times. ahhhh.

Anyway… Thanks for the replies.

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[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:
Hopefully you have a good MD to help you with this. It’s a bit concerning though, that you didn’t leave the office with basic understanding of important topics, like how to store your test. But it can be overwhelming so maybe you just missed it.

Good luck bro.[/quote]

Well as far as info. No my doc didnt give me much info. I think thats cus I had the attitude that I knew what I was doing and knew that TRT is what I needed. and I was acting like that to kinda nudge him into writing the script. So nope, no info was really given onther then the nurse showing he HIS butt and showing me where to inject. (Too bad it wasnt the hott nurse that works that… Mmmm Mmmm shes gorgeous. lol

Secondly.

Im going to google it, but just to be sure… Someone at least answer this. Storing my test just in my drawer is ok, yes? Or does it need to be refridgerated? - And is there a good article to read all about the things that my doctor should have informed me about? and also what I should be doing / monitoring / watching, now that I am on TRT just in case my doc doesnt really know what he is doing, so I can start making requests for certain tests etc… Also is there a sticky (I didnt see one) of all the different test names, and what they are, and why they are importent to monitor, or what they affect… almost like a vocabulary type of deal.

Lost of questions and long posts I know… but I just want to make sure i get the best results I can get, the most help possible and learn as much as I can so I dont end up messing myself up, or having my doc mess me up from not knowing what he is doing.

Again. Thanks for the replies from all.

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If you are only doing .5cc at a time, just use slin pins. No need for a bigger needle. I draw and shoot with the same slin. This will reduce scar tissue long term.

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The testosterone does not need refrigerated.
Go to any pharmacy for the needles. I used the same insulin needle to draw and inject. Takes a little while but works fine.
I dont think any amount of T or other substance is going to let you pack on massive size quickly when you can’t eat or absorb nutrients. Focus on getting that corrected and dialing in your standard dose. In addition, you said you can only do a few pushups. Again, work on those basics!

I understand the excitement of trying to get everything going ASAP, but hormones are something you really need to take your time with.

Good luck

Ever heard of using Glutamine for Crohns or even low dose naltrexone way out of my knowledge base but I seem to recall hearing good things about them for it.

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The package that the test comes in says what to store it at…It seems to me that you are not reading, and if you are not reading, you aren’t comprehending. You need to have a functional, rational mind if you are going to be doing this in the dark so to speak. I am not flaming you, just being real about the fact that you don’t seem to be concerned enough to inform yourself of what to do…for instance, all your most recent questions can be read on stickies or by your own research on forums and literature. I am saying this because your questions are basic.

Again, I am not flaming you. I just think you should do more research into what you want to do with your body.

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WTF, read the stickies:

  • advice for new guys
  • protocol for injections
    – inject with insulin syringes
    – inject SC