Hey! What’s wrong with Modern Talking?!
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so, can we not block or ignore people anymore with this new forum layout?
I don’t think so.
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to be fair pex, there are a lot of people out there who run 500-1000mg for a year or more as their ‘cruise’. But most of the folks I know who do that also recognize that it may not be a great decision for their long term health.
And I’ve already acknowledged that the health aspect is largely speculative. It’s not as if there is hard evidence for me to present. I certainly would not make an overly broad statement of ‘if you run a gram of test for 1 year, it will kill you.’ It almost certainly won’t.
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Some people may want to take more risk in order to achieve certain goals, and that’s their choice. However, if doing so i would hope that the person understands the risks and takes the necessary precautions. They may choose not to, again this is their choice.
Studhammer doesn’t seem to understand the risks, or how to control them. He claims he has his HCT checked, but we don’t know what it is and i thought blood centres checked hemoglobin not hct…
He also claimed Estrogen was almost definitely low and then later in thread revealed that he had been using nolva and only recently started using an AI.
What he does is his choice but he made a thread for open discussion then just dismissed all the advice offered as wrong because it isn’t what he wants to here.
I don’t think anyone has claimed that doing this would cause death - I shared a story of someone that had a stroke and went on to make a full recovery. My point was high HCT caused this and he also wasn’t 51… so there is certainly a risk involved.
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Out of interest - how long have they been doing this for and are they at a fairly high level in their chosen endeavor? Do you know if they would drop down to a more normal ‘cruise’ once a year etc. Can you give an example of a blast for someone cruising on this amount?
I know that you recently starting cruising on 250mg and i do check in on your training every now and then. Your continued progress is impressive and it certainly seems that cruising is helping you to push it further. Do you expect your cruise dose to increase as time goes on and you push your limits further? Also has cruising rather than coming off had any effect on your HCT levels etc?
Sorry for all the questions but it would be great to get your feedback/experience on this.
google myostatin upregulation. You’d have had better results dropping back your doses now and then. The guys in the magazines you’re referencing don’t stay on those dosages year round because it isn’t the most effective way to do it (and yes, I’m sure there are exceptions to the rule but understand those are exceptions).
I’m not saying you need to be normal , I’m saying the way you went about it is wrong
If John Meadows can grow on 300mg test and 2iu GH with a little slin every now and then in the offseason I highly doubt you need to stay on a gram.
EDIT: removed the insults. There’s no need for that and I apologise.
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that’s totally amazing! I’d never heard of them before.
Love shit like that
WTF? I was just joking. You actually like this shit???
You’ll probably love this:
LOL
Obviously I’ve heard that. It’s good, but it’s no Gloria.
I love a bit of 80s synth nonsense, particularly an 80s pop diva.
I wonder if it’s cool to post links to spotify playlists on here. I’ve got some belters.
And, when they ask you about injecting illegal drugs, including steroids, how do you answer that question?
pex, yes the people I have in mind are competing at a relatively high level. Some at a world class level, other are at least Elite (as far as powerlifting standards are concerned). And I also know guys at that kind of competitive level who run much lower doses for cruises.
The guys I’m thinking of don’t drop to a ‘normal’ cruise level at any point in the year. A blast would likely be 2g total or more for the 1g cruise guy. I could see a guy running 500mg a week blasting at more like 1500mg.
Basic example: Cruising on a gram of test. Blast would be 12-16 weeks. It would include, say, dbol for 5 weeks at 50-100mg per day. Tren would be run for the last 10 weeks of the blast at 500+ mg. Probably EQ at a similar level, but for the duration of the cycle. Something along those lines. Obviously slin/gh could be included as well, they don’t really factor into AAS dose.
For myself, I’d like to continue to cruise at 250. It’s worked so far for me. I’m only cruising for short periods of time though. About 2 months. I could see myself cruising slightly higher if my goals changed substantially, but I don’t think they will. Who knows how I’ll feel about that in a few years or more.
Bloodwork continues to look fine. Probably BECAUSE I cruise at a reasonable level. I’ll be running EQ on my next cycle, something I haven’t done before, so I’ll share if that impacts things.
Also, 1 thing about cruising rather than PCT. I ended up doing it in the first place because I had poor results from PCT last summer. I attribute it to having taken Deca unknowingly (this, at least, is what I’m convinced happened). Recovery was shitty, and I lost a lot of strength in a short period of time. I basically decided, fuck that, I don’t want to do that again. The other thing that factored in was that I fully expect to be lifting heavy for a long time. As long as I possibly can. So that made the commitment easier than if I just had goals for, say, being in my 30’s, with the intention to quit later on.