Ugh, when his mom was crying “take me instead!” it just made me feel like poo inside.
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
I would be shocked if this was related to anything other than post-concussion issues. He probably knew it too, which is why he shot himself in the chest and not the head. [/quote]
I wouldn’t be surprised if he was having financial issues as well.
ex wife and 3 kids is probably a HELL of a lot of child support going out… he also had at least two “Seau’s” restaurants that went under recently.
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Yeah, but I highly suspect that the reason he shot himself in the chest was because he knew deep down that his mental issues (assuming he had any, of course) were concussion-related. If he blew his brains out a gaping hole in the back of his head then an autopsy wouldn’t confirm anything about neurological damage to the brain.
I wouldn’t be surprised if his car accident in 2010 was a failed suicide attempt, either. He drove off a 100’ cliff shortly after he was arrested for domestic violence, yet had no traces of drugs or alcohol in his system. It wouldn’t shock me if the assault was the result of intense mood swings related to chronic traumatic encephalopathy.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
I would be shocked if this was related to anything other than post-concussion issues. He probably knew it too, which is why he shot himself in the chest and not the head. [/quote]
I wouldn’t be surprised if he was having financial issues as well.
ex wife and 3 kids is probably a HELL of a lot of child support going out… he also had at least two “Seau’s” restaurants that went under recently.
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Yeah, but I highly suspect that the reason he shot himself in the chest was because he knew deep down that his mental issues (assuming he had any, of course) were concussion-related. If he blew his brains out a gaping hole in the back of his head then an autopsy wouldn’t confirm anything about neurological damage to the brain.
I wouldn’t be surprised if his car accident in 2010 was a failed suicide attempt, either. He drove off a 100’ cliff shortly after he was arrested for domestic violence, yet had no traces of drugs or alcohol in his system. It wouldn’t shock me if the assault was the result of intense mood swings related to chronic traumatic encephalopathy.[/quote]
Or maybe he didn’t want to make his mama bury him with a closed casket.
It’s a mighty big stretch on all the brain injury conjecture till more evidence is found.
RIP
some article was saying that the other player who recently committed suicide by shooting himself in the chest did so so that the medical examiner could look at his brain to see the damage that football caused? They are say Jr. shot himself in the same manner for the same reason. Was he ever accused of roids? Was he on them when he died?
[quote]pat wrote:
My heart absolutely aches for his poor mother…
You want pain people, there is none greater than that, losing a child. Thank God I haven’t experienced that and I hope to out live my kids. Damn, just so sad. So terribly, horribly sad.
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Yeah I feel for his kids as well, just makes one wonder what kind of pain and demons he must have been going thru to think this was the best option he had…
RIP
Life is a precious, and this is a sobering reminder of it. Rest in peace, you’re suffering is over Junior. Find rest for your soul
The clips of his mother both anger me -the media being all over the most devastating moment of her life; I know it’s ‘good TV’ but having been around the recent school shooting in Chardon I have an incredible distaste for media at events like this because I’ve seen what they do to get the ‘most emotional’ responses they can- and bring tears to my eyes. That part about her plea to god to take her in his place being too late is heartbreaking.
Marcellus Wiley’s response to the event on ESPN was also powerful. Junior was ‘the man’ to a lot of younger players that came into the league in the last decade, it has to be jarring to see someone you admired so much to go out in this manner.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
… 3… 2… 1…BINGO!
Steroids, steroids, steroids…maybe brain injury. Steroids.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
I would be shocked if this was related to anything other than post-concussion issues. He probably knew it too, which is why he shot himself in the chest and not the head. [/quote]
qft.
Now that I’ve had the day to ponder it, I’m still pretty bummed.
NFL and it’s owners are a complete disgrace. They have billion dollar contracts from the networks, PSL’s, stadia on the state and county’s dime, $40 parking and $8 Coors Light here in Foxborough and they treat these players like pieces of meat. Always making them renegotiate contracts and then not taking care of the alumni. All that money and you can’t pay for health insurance post career? There is currently a 1000 ex player class action against them for health benefits. Instead of Congress wasting the taxpayers’s money on trying to pin a lying to Congress charge against Roger Clemens, they should haul Godell and all those owners down to DC and explain to them about how they are ensuring a quality of life for players post career. I.E. How to handle fame, money, hangers on, preparation for post career and health benefts.
[quote]BCFlynn wrote:
NFL and it’s owners are a complete disgrace. They have billion dollar contracts from the networks, PSL’s, stadia on the state and county’s dime, $40 parking and $8 Coors Light here in Foxborough and they treat these players like pieces of meat. Always making them renegotiate contracts and then not taking care of the alumni. All that money and you can’t pay for health insurance post career? There is currently a 1000 ex player class action against them for health benefits. Instead of Congress wasting the taxpayers’s money on trying to pin a lying to Congress charge against Roger Clemens, they should haul Godell and all those owners down to DC and explain to them about how they are ensuring a quality of life for players post career. I.E. How to handle fame, money, hangers on, preparation for post career and health benefts.[/quote]
Yeah, cause millions of dollars isn’t enough. I’ll trade my compensation with medical benefits, for the league minimum without benefits.
The league also doesn’t buy them food, I don’t know how they haven’t all starved to death.
Do you even know weather he had health coverage or not?
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]BCFlynn wrote:
NFL and it’s owners are a complete disgrace. They have billion dollar contracts from the networks, PSL’s, stadia on the state and county’s dime, $40 parking and $8 Coors Light here in Foxborough and they treat these players like pieces of meat. Always making them renegotiate contracts and then not taking care of the alumni. All that money and you can’t pay for health insurance post career? There is currently a 1000 ex player class action against them for health benefits. Instead of Congress wasting the taxpayers’s money on trying to pin a lying to Congress charge against Roger Clemens, they should haul Godell and all those owners down to DC and explain to them about how they are ensuring a quality of life for players post career. I.E. How to handle fame, money, hangers on, preparation for post career and health benefts.[/quote]
Yeah, cause millions of dollars isn’t enough. I’ll trade my compensation with medical benefits, for the league minimum without benefits.
The league also doesn’t buy them food, I don’t know how they haven’t all starved to death.
Do you even know weather he had health coverage or not?[/quote]
Not sure about the NFL, but the NBA does in fact pay for players food. Players are given a $120-something dollar a day stipend for food on the road, and their pre-game [home and road]spread pretty much shits on the nicest restuarant you’ve ever been to. If they do it, I’m sure the NFL does something comparable.
Anyway, Seau was a helluva player and seemed like a class act. But [not referring to Seau specifically] I have a hard time feeling sorry for grown men who get paid millions of dollars to play a childs game who aren’t smart enough to watch their money or take care of things like medical, dental, not buying 6 Ferrari’s, etc. If anything each team needs a few in house financial advisors to work with these dudes 'cause some of 'em are legitimately retarded.
Football players are still going to play football.
Former football players are still going to go through grown up problems post-career whether they snuck out of the league without head injuries or otherwise.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]BCFlynn wrote:
NFL and it’s owners are a complete disgrace. They have billion dollar contracts from the networks, PSL’s, stadia on the state and county’s dime, $40 parking and $8 Coors Light here in Foxborough and they treat these players like pieces of meat. Always making them renegotiate contracts and then not taking care of the alumni. All that money and you can’t pay for health insurance post career? There is currently a 1000 ex player class action against them for health benefits. Instead of Congress wasting the taxpayers’s money on trying to pin a lying to Congress charge against Roger Clemens, they should haul Godell and all those owners down to DC and explain to them about how they are ensuring a quality of life for players post career. I.E. How to handle fame, money, hangers on, preparation for post career and health benefts.[/quote]
Yeah, cause millions of dollars isn’t enough. I’ll trade my compensation with medical benefits, for the league minimum without benefits.
The league also doesn’t buy them food, I don’t know how they haven’t all starved to death.
Do you even know weather he had health coverage or not?[/quote]
i think like 70% of all nfl revenue is ate up in players salary. it would be a hard sell to ask the owners to dish out any more for benefits.
i think that in a sport where the minimum is like 400,000 a year, and the starters are making millions, that if players were really concerned with their health and financial security after their careers are over, they would take less pay in lieu of a pension and health care benefits.
some inner city kid gets his first nfl contract, and first thing he does is buy a ridiculous mansion, diamond earrings the size of Chiclets, and 3 Bentley’s with spinning rims, maybe he should invest some of that money for his retirement, and heatlhcare, and get by with a HUGE house, not a mansion, and maybe just one Bentley with factory tires.
fast forward to 2:40
^^^ Did my post not go through? I said the same thing awhile ago.
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
fast forward to 2:40
Chris hit the nail on the head on that one.
Anyway…
RIP JS.
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
i think like 70% of all nfl revenue is ate up in players salary. it would be a hard sell to ask the owners to dish out any more for benefits.
i think that in a sport where the minimum is like 400,000 a year, and the starters are making millions, that if players were really concerned with their health and financial security after their careers are over, they would take less pay in lieu of a pension and health care benefits.
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The players get 47% of NFL revenue in the new CBA, down from 50% in the previous one.