[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Which countries that were democratically elected were overthrown by the neocons? I can’t think of any.[/quote]
Then I guess you’ve never heard of Chile?
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
So it was wrong to overthrow the Nationalist Socialist regime in Germany? Gotcha. [/quote]
Yes it is wrong for the U.S. to overthrow any government elected by the people of that country. They should be free to live life as they choose without interference from the U.S.
Pretty much yes. No other nation in the history of mankind has placed such restrictions on its head of state. In terms of domestic policy it’s good overall but in terms of foreign policy it’s a disaster. In order to be coherent, to be able to react quickly and to be able to act covertly foreign policy must be directed by the head of state; not by the legislature.
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Which countries that were democratically elected were overthrown by the neocons? I can’t think of any.[/quote]
Then I guess you’ve never heard of Chile?
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Which “neocons” were involved in Chile?
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Yes it is wrong for the U.S. to overthrow any government elected by the people of that country. They should be free to live life as they choose without interference from the U.S.
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It was wrong to overthrow the Nazis? Okay idiot. Off you go now.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Yes it is wrong for the U.S. to overthrow any government elected by the people of that country. They should be free to live life as they choose without interference from the U.S.
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It was wrong to overthrow the Nazis? Okay idiot. Off you go now.
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We only got involved when they invaded many countries. Not the same idiot!
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Pretty much yes. No other nation in the history of mankind has placed such restrictions on its head of state. In terms of domestic policy it’s good overall but in terms of foreign policy it’s a disaster. In order to be coherent, to be able to react quickly and to be able to act covertly foreign policy must be directed by the head of state; not by the legislature.[/quote]
Okay now I understand. IT IS OKAY to break the law as long as though who do so have what they feel is a legitimate reason. Glad you clarified that for me.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Which countries that were democratically elected were overthrown by the neocons? I can’t think of any.[/quote]
Then I guess you’ve never heard of Chile?
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Which “neocons” were involved in Chile?[/quote]
Try Kissinger.
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Which countries that were democratically elected were overthrown by the neocons? I can’t think of any.[/quote]
Then I guess you’ve never heard of Chile?
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Which “neocons” were involved in Chile?[/quote]
Try Kissinger.
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Kissinger has;
A). No association whatsoever with the neoconservative movement
And
B). Is ideologically antithetical to neoconservatism.
Kissinger is a realist; the neoconservatives are idealists.
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Yes it is wrong for the U.S. to overthrow any government elected by the people of that country. They should be free to live life as they choose without interference from the U.S.
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It was wrong to overthrow the Nazis? Okay idiot. Off you go now.
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We only got involved when they invaded many countries. Not the same idiot![/quote]
How stupid. In 1938 when Hitler remilitarised the Rhineland his army was outnumbered by the French 2:1. He could’ve been annihilated. Waiting until he annexed Austria and invaded Czechoslavakia and Poland was idiotic.
Also here is a law source that refers to not reporting a felony.
The federal offense of failure to disclose a felony, if coupled with some act concealing the felony, such as suppression of evidence, harboring or protecting the person performing the felony, intimidation or harming a witness, or any other act designed to conceal from authorities the fact that a crime has been committed.
Title 18 U.S.C. § 4. Misprision of felony. Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Also here is a law source that refers to not reporting a felony.
The federal offense of failure to disclose a felony, if coupled with some act concealing the felony, such as suppression of evidence, harboring or protecting the person performing the felony, intimidation or harming a witness, or any other act designed to conceal from authorities the fact that a crime has been committed.
Title 18 U.S.C. § 4. Misprision of felony. Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
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It’s based on the English common law principle of “misprision of a felony”. However, it requires “active concealment” not just “failing to report”. Furthermore, if reporting the felony is liable to incriminate yourself then you don’t have to do it.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Which countries that were democratically elected were overthrown by the neocons? I can’t think of any.[/quote]
Then I guess you’ve never heard of Chile?
[/quote]
Which “neocons” were involved in Chile?[/quote]
Try Kissinger.
[/quote]
Kissinger has;
A). No association whatsoever with the neoconservative movement
And
B). Is ideologically antithetical to neoconservatism.
Kissinger is a realist; the neoconservatives are idealists.
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They govern with much similarity not to mention Kissinger was a regular visitor to the Bush White House, mostly to the VP’s office.
So your claims that there is no association and their ideologically opposed is hogwash.
Kissingerâ??s remark about â??the international order conducted by radical groups in both Islamic sects,â?? in other words Islam writ large, is evidence the neocons and neolibs are on the same page when it comes to utilizing made-in-the-USA terrorism to not only deconstruct Islamic societies, but push forward the neoliberal plan to hold a global fire sale, otherwise know as â??free tradeâ?? and â??privatizationâ?? conducted at gunpoint.
Finally, as an indication Kissinger and the neocons support this criminal deconstruction, including the murder of hundreds of thousands of people, consider Kissingerâ??s declaration that the United States â??must not involve itself in the sectarian conflict for any extended period,â?? as this miserable process, long planned by the neocons and their Israeli collaborators, must be allowed to blossom in full, thus â??leveling the playing fieldâ?? for the neolibs, who will rush in to pick up the pieces, that is to say capture all of worth, namely huge reserves of oil and other precious and profitable natural resources.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Also here is a law source that refers to not reporting a felony.
The federal offense of failure to disclose a felony, if coupled with some act concealing the felony, such as suppression of evidence, harboring or protecting the person performing the felony, intimidation or harming a witness, or any other act designed to conceal from authorities the fact that a crime has been committed.
Title 18 U.S.C. �§ 4. Misprision of felony. Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
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It’s based on the English common law principle of “misprision of a felony”. However, it requires “active concealment” not just “failing to report”. Furthermore, if reporting the felony is liable to incriminate yourself then you don’t have to do it.[/quote]
So when the C.I.A. protected the drug runners and contract agents from the law that wasn’t concealment?
Panama The U.S. military invasion of Panama after which dictator Manuel Noriega was captured.
In 1989, the United States invaded Panama as part of Operation Just Cause, which involved 25,000 American troops. Gen. Manuel Noriega, head of government of Panama, had been giving military assistance to Contra groups in Nicaragua at the request of the U.S.-which, in exchange, allowed him to continue his drug-trafficking activities-which they had known about since the 1960s.[12][13] When the DEA tried to indict Noriega in 1971, the CIA prevented them from doing so.[12] The CIA, which was then directed by future president George H. W. Bush, provided Noriega with hundreds of thousands of dollars per year as payment for his work in Latin America.[12] However, when CIA pilot Eugene Hasenfus was shot down over Nicaragua by the Sandinistas, documents aboard the plane revealed many of the CIA’s activities in Latin America, and the CIA’s connections with Noriega became a public relations “liability” for the U.S. government, which finally allowed the DEA to indict him for drug trafficking, after decades of allowing his drug operations to proceed unchecked.[12] Operation Just Cause, whose ostensible purpose was to capture Noriega, pushed the former Panamanian leader back into the town asylum along with Papal Nuncio where he surrendered to U.S. authorities. His trial took place in Miami, where he was sentenced to 45 years in prison.[12]
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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
They govern with much similarity
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Kissinger was a foreign policy adviser. He didn’t “govern”.
Kissinger was a regular visitor to every President. What’s that got to do with anything?
What are you talking about idiot? How does regularly visiting Bush at the WH make him a neoconservative?
You’re supposed to source quotes. That was written by an IslamoNazi cockroach called Layla Anwar. This is what she says about Americans:
"I really hate America, Americans, their culture, their ways, their accent, their politics, their arrogance, their stupidity, their ignorance…
I really can’t stand Americans. I can’t stand their men, their women, their country, everything they represent…
I truly, deeply, sincerly hate them.
I will elevate this hatred to an Art form.
I fantasize about using the Abu Ghraib excrements and smudging the sheet with it, then collectively wipe your faces with it.
A very sick woman. You’re a very sick person too aren’t you?
For the last time, Kissinger is a realist with no connection whatsoever with the neoconservative movement. The neoconservatives are former Trotskyists for the most part. They’re liberals. They’re Wilsonian idealists and they believe in Democratic peace theory. No one who knows anything about foreign policy thinks Kissinger is a neoconservative.
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Also here is a law source that refers to not reporting a felony.
The federal offense of failure to disclose a felony, if coupled with some act concealing the felony, such as suppression of evidence, harboring or protecting the person performing the felony, intimidation or harming a witness, or any other act designed to conceal from authorities the fact that a crime has been committed.
Title 18 U.S.C. �?�§ 4. Misprision of felony. Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
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It’s based on the English common law principle of “misprision of a felony”. However, it requires “active concealment” not just “failing to report”. Furthermore, if reporting the felony is liable to incriminate yourself then you don’t have to do it.[/quote]
So when the C.I.A. protected the drug runners and contract agents from the law that wasn’t concealment?
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They didn’t conceal anything. In fact, the accusation is they contacted law enforcement and requested leniency for a trafficker.
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Which countries that were democratically elected were overthrown by the neocons? I can’t think of any.[/quote]
Then I guess you’ve never heard of Chile?
[/quote]
Which “neocons” were involved in Chile?[/quote]
Try Kissinger.
[/quote]
Kissinger has;
A). No association whatsoever with the neoconservative movement
And
B). Is ideologically antithetical to neoconservatism.
Kissinger is a realist; the neoconservatives are idealists.
[/quote]
They govern with much similarity not to mention Kissinger was a regular visitor to the Bush White House, mostly to the VP’s office.
So your claims that there is no association and their ideologically opposed is hogwash.
Kissingerâ??s remark about â??the international order conducted by radical groups in both Islamic sects,â?? in other words Islam writ large, is evidence the neocons and neolibs are on the same page when it comes to utilizing made-in-the-USA terrorism to not only deconstruct Islamic societies, but push forward the neoliberal plan to hold a global fire sale, otherwise know as â??free tradeâ?? and â??privatizationâ?? conducted at gunpoint.
Finally, as an indication Kissinger and the neocons support this criminal deconstruction, including the murder of hundreds of thousands of people, consider Kissingerâ??s declaration that the United States â??must not involve itself in the sectarian conflict for any extended period,â?? as this miserable process, long planned by the neocons and their Israeli collaborators, must be allowed to blossom in full, thus â??leveling the playing fieldâ?? for the neolibs, who will rush in to pick up the pieces, that is to say capture all of worth, namely huge reserves of oil and other precious and profitable natural resources.
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This reads like Immmanel Wallerstein with a damaged prefrontal cortex. World systems theory is blasé, especially so when you can’t articulate it correctly.
[quote]Bismark wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Which countries that were democratically elected were overthrown by the neocons? I can’t think of any.[/quote]
Then I guess you’ve never heard of Chile?
[/quote]
Which “neocons” were involved in Chile?[/quote]
Try Kissinger.
[/quote]
Kissinger has;
A). No association whatsoever with the neoconservative movement
And
B). Is ideologically antithetical to neoconservatism.
Kissinger is a realist; the neoconservatives are idealists.
[/quote]
They govern with much similarity not to mention Kissinger was a regular visitor to the Bush White House, mostly to the VP’s office.
So your claims that there is no association and their ideologically opposed is hogwash.
Kissinger�¢??s remark about �¢??the international order conducted by radical groups in both Islamic sects,�¢?? in other words Islam writ large, is evidence the neocons and neolibs are on the same page when it comes to utilizing made-in-the-USA terrorism to not only deconstruct Islamic societies, but push forward the neoliberal plan to hold a global fire sale, otherwise know as �¢??free trade�¢?? and �¢??privatization�¢?? conducted at gunpoint.
Finally, as an indication Kissinger and the neocons support this criminal deconstruction, including the murder of hundreds of thousands of people, consider Kissinger�¢??s declaration that the United States �¢??must not involve itself in the sectarian conflict for any extended period,�¢?? as this miserable process, long planned by the neocons and their Israeli collaborators, must be allowed to blossom in full, thus �¢??leveling the playing field�¢?? for the neolibs, who will rush in to pick up the pieces, that is to say capture all of worth, namely huge reserves of oil and other precious and profitable natural resources.
[/quote]
This reads like Immmanel Wallerstein with a damaged prefrontal cortex. World systems theory is blasÃ?©, especially so when you can’t articulate it correctly.
[/quote]
Speaking of brain damage, I can’t understand why a highly respected IR scholar like Mearsheimer would step outside his field of expertise and plug an anti-Semitic book by a holocaust denier:
Mearsheimer and Walt’s “The Israel Lobby” was a very poor work filled with bias and innuendo. It puts Walt and Mearsheimer into the same isolationist camp as the old right in the 30’s. Mearsheimer’s endorsement of a holocaust revisionist suggests a personal animosity underlies his position on Israel.
It’s interesting to note that about a year after the publication of “The Israel Lobby” it came out that Ariel Sharon actually advised Bush against invading Iraq. This of course completely obliterates Mearsheimer and Walt’s premise and as far as I know they haven’t even responded to this revelation.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
They govern with much similarity
[/quote]
Kissinger was a foreign policy adviser. He didn’t “govern”.
Kissinger was a regular visitor to every President. What’s that got to do with anything?
What are you talking about idiot? How does regularly visiting Bush at the WH make him a neoconservative?
You’re supposed to source quotes. That was written by an IslamoNazi cockroach called Layla Anwar. This is what she says about Americans:
"I really hate America, Americans, their culture, their ways, their accent, their politics, their arrogance, their stupidity, their ignorance…
I really can’t stand Americans. I can’t stand their men, their women, their country, everything they represent…
I truly, deeply, sincerly hate them.
I will elevate this hatred to an Art form.
I fantasize about using the Abu Ghraib excrements and smudging the sheet with it, then collectively wipe your faces with it.
A very sick woman. You’re a very sick person too aren’t you?
For the last time, Kissinger is a realist with no connection whatsoever with the neoconservative movement. The neoconservatives are former Trotskyists for the most part. They’re liberals. They’re Wilsonian idealists and they believe in Democratic peace theory. No one who knows anything about foreign policy thinks Kissinger is a neoconservative.[/quote]
His visitations with VP Cheney would make an association. His opinion weighs a lot in the minds of politicians even though he is only an advisor. They are not inviting him over for tea and crumpets.
Yeah Cheney is a liberal. Is there a person in this world who believes this other than you?
"I really hate America, Americans, their culture, their ways, their accent, their politics, their arrogance, their stupidity, their ignorance…
Arrogance, stupidity and ignorance all has rings of the truth tied to it. Take a look at yourself and what was done to the prisoners in Abu Ghraib in the photos. Do you think this instills respect or breeds hatred? She has a better argument for hatred of the U.S. than brainwashed Americans have for hating those in Abu Ghraib and middle easterns in general.
A very sick woman. You’re a very sick person too aren’t you?
To you I’m sick because I don’t believe America has the right to take what they want by force because it may somehow make our lives easier all the while it comes at the expense of others. But you do.