I was saying Republicans talk about cancel culture, attacks on freedom of speech, etc while doing the exact same thing as Dems. Hell they are voting for someone advocating to jail people because of their political beliefs.
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What did they do? Was it anything potentially illegal? Haven’t read anything about these.
Lots of people have forgotten The Red Scare. I still can’t believe they called Orson FUCKING Welles a commie and put him on the Hollywood blackist.
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They are Democrats. Whitmer was right after the foiled plot to kidnap her.
I meant what did they (Whitmer and AOC) do that prompted people to chant “Lock her up.”?
Whitmer was during Covid after lunatics tried to kidnap her and AOC was recently and hasn’t done anything newsworthy expect be a far left liberal as always.
These people aren’t chanting lock it up to be specific with stuff. They want people who think differently than them to be jailed. Wouldn’t think you’d see that so frequently in America. But when the strongest person in your party is cheering it on? Well that’s what you get.
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Ok, I went to look it up since it’s hard to believe there wasn’t any reason for the chant.
Apparently they were chanting “lock her up” because:
During his rally in Muskegon, Mich., on Saturday, Trump blamed Whitmer for imposing what he sees as too severe restrictions on the state during the coronavirus pandemic. That led to a chorus of “lock her up!” chants. And instead of condemning the chants, Trump seemed to egg on his supporters, smiling and saying, “You got to get your governor to open up your state,” and “Lock them all up.”
I’d say it’s a reason. Not a good one, though. And definitely not just because Whitmer disagreed with them. I’m assuming they’re thinking it was an overreach or misapplication of powers which affected their livelihoods and freedom. Can’t be bothered to look up AOC.
As for the “lock them all up” part, all I thought about was Conan going, “They’re all sluts!”
Dude its not even close c’mon… This is the dishonesty that plagues us. You’re a good poster and smart guy. But ffs… The left has gone much further. Its a pendulum and its firmly to the left as of now.
Which Republicans come to mind specifically?
This is slightly off-topic because it is happening in Canada, but I find it useful to look at places where leftists have even more control for an indication of what might be in store for us a little further down the line.
This is a public official in Nova Scotia explaining in plain English that a ban on public gatherings is to prevent the spread of misinformation. Coincidentally, that’s the same exact reason we’re given for heavy-handed social media censorship. It seems like a great reason for nearly anything government wants to do at this point.
All of these nonsense mush-words are creeping into policies like “hate speech” and “systemic racism” that are becoming increasingly common and increasingly advocated-for. That leaves the door wide open for tyranny. Yes, tyranny. Canada and Europe are sounding the warning alarm if anyone in the USA cares to hear it. Right now you can be kicked out of the American public square for hurting someone’s feelings or discussing science. What’s next for us?
“I think the other purpose of the injunction is to prevent groups that are spreading deliberately false information that create risk. The information itself if listened to creates risk to the public as well. There certainly is a need to manage that misinformation campaign as well.”
REPORT: No longer about health. Canada will prevent groups from gathering in order to stop the spread of 'unauthorized information'. pic.twitter.com/WM381SGnCC
— New Granada (@NewGranada1979) June 27, 2021
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The first one is the guy who got millions of votes for the highest office in the land.
I wouldn’t disagree with that. I would argue that it’s typically been more to the right than left in the 36 years I’ve been alive no doubt. Conservatives have tried to ban tons of pieces of art (movies, music, etc.). Ban people from coming into the country because of their religion, etc. Look at the way Muslims were treated in America after 9/11. No I’m not saying that was all conservatives but I think we’d be lying to ourselves if we didn’t know who’s doing the brunt work there. Trying to “cancel” gay people through things like conversion therapy. Yeah I think that’s a little more concerning than they put a fact check on my meme!
These are/were real action that are/were directly effecting a lot of people. I don’t quite think “Facebook put a fact check by an anti vaccine post” is really that scary in comparison. Doesn’t mean I support it, just in the historical context not that significant IMO. I’ll take fact check on a private companies website that they believe needed out there over the most powerful position in America having people chanting to jail others personally.
I think a lot of it’s overstated though. My Facebook during the runup to the election was 95% conservative memes, arguably racist (subjective I realize) stuff, anti mask science and vax. I think some righties act like none of this stuff is allowed and it all gets you banned. That couldn’t be further from the truth.
Some of the stuff people bitch about has its roots in the very foundation of the country. People shared via word of mouth and documents that another country was behaving poorly to us. The response was to boycott or attempt to influence change. That’s not one bit of difference in many of these cases. The only difference is it’s easier to share messages now. People act like the left is the only side doing this? How many people said they were going to boycott the NFL? NASCAR? Starbucks? Etc. exact same shit.
Do I think that it sometimes goes too far? Sure. Do I think some people apologize too quickly for something they don’t have to? Sure. Do I worry about where it could go? I suppose. Not anymore than I would have worried about something 50 years ago.
I mean we want to talk about “oh I got put in Facebook jail for that post!” A 30 day ban or something. I just can’t quite put that on the level of fear of people plotting to kidnap a governor, people storming a Capitol building, a President attempting to use his power to overturn an election so he can remain in power. If you want to say the left is worse currently I probably wouldn’t disagree depending on what we’re discussing. I guess it’s just the whole glossing over this forum seems to do of the actual scary as fuck shit the right has done in the last few years.
A very small amount of this is new. The means by how some of it happens might be different, but historically we’ve been doing this since before we were a country.
I wouldn’t have believed this if I didn’t read the tweet.
Like I said, we’re already through the looking glass.
How long until Orwell’s 1984 becomes banned for “spreading misinformation”? My Orwellian Doomsday Clock presently reads two minutes to midnight.
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I hypothetically have it a little worse but with less silly justifications over here lol. But there was ONE outstanding incident recently, though non-consequential and more hilarious than anything, that made every single ex-classmate start ploughing though his/her law books wondering how in the fuck something like that could happen.
3 blinks. Virgin birth? Gimme a break.
It’s Brave New World (and even Fahrenheit 451) that should be worried about in that regard. Huxley was closer to predicting a world where people are obsessed with tik tok videos instead of being manipulated by language.
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Jon Stewart continues to show us what a 1990’s liberal looked like. I don’t agree with everything he says, but he’s still the same guy he was during his comedic peak. Joe Rogan is more or less what a 1990’s liberal looked like too.
Its great to see Jon Stewart still doing his thing and sticking to his guns, reminding everyone that we’re in an ongoing struggle between competing ideas.
Censorship is only needed when you’re losing that battle badly.
Joe Rogan can go fuck himself for being friendly with and promoting Alex Jones and his quest to put sandy hook parents through further hell.
Alex Jones has been on my radar since the 1999 WTO protests in Seattle. He’s said a lot of crazy stuff when nobody else was saying it and some of that crazy stuff has been true. I’ve listened to at least two JRE podcasts with Alex Jones and I found them very entertaining. I’m not sure how these episodes could be producing grief in anyone, but I realize that people can get upset for all kinds of reasons. I suppose the mention of Alex Jones or the idea that someone might allow him to speak will make people upset, but that’s their problem. Even the Sandy Hook parents.
Part of what makes Joe Rogan such a great force for social good is his willingness to allow just about anyone on to have their say. He makes no pretense of being anything other than a dude who is willing to hear someone out, which is a huge component of success. I find it to be a refreshing change from the carefully curated landscape of modern propagandists posing as news organizations.
Do you believe Joe Rogan is responsible for Sandy Hook parents’ grief?
I don’t keep up with all of this shit, but what did Alex Jones do to those people that is supposed to be so terrible?
I believe he said it was a false flag operation, that all the people involved were actors, and no one was actually killed. All of the parents of the dead kids were liars/actors.