Link it up brotha.
I agree… clips or it didn’t happen. =D
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
I agree… clips or it didn’t happen. =D
Google is ye friend: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/04/30/stewart-trumans-war-criminal-bombing-hiroshima
I posted this once but it didn’t show up. Sorry.
[Edit] Damned delayed TN posting snafu.[/quote]
You start a thread dissin’ the funny man and expect us to do the dirty work for you?
You do you think you are?
…Jon Stewart kinda wtfpwn’d this guy.
Seriously, the guy he’s interviewing comes off as a total douche.
Plus, Stewart says we can’t judge the decision because it was made in the context of war. I don’t agree entirely with his position, but he defends it far better than the other guy, who just keeps coming off as a pushy cock face.
And that’s my two cents.
That’s just plain silly. He would have only been a war criminal if we had lost. Good thing for him we didn’t.
I think Stewart has a device at home that allows him to hook his ass up to his nose so he can freely smell his own farts at all times.
I don’t get all this “we don’t torture” bullshit anyway, it’s a stupid debate if you ask me.
Truman is a war criminal. So are many other presidents though…
[quote]dhickey wrote:
That’s just plain silly. He would have only been a war criminal if we had lost. Good thing for him we didn’t.[/quote]
QFT.
He addressed this last night, and admitted it was a retarded thing to say
[quote]borrek wrote:
He addressed this last night, and admitted it was a retarded thing to say[/quote]
No, it was completely apt.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
borrek wrote:
He addressed this last night, and admitted it was a retarded thing to say
Link or it didn’t happen. (Yeah, I can hit the ball back over the net)[/quote]
I don’t understand how instantly killing 80,000 people, the majority of which civilian, would not be considered a war crime. Even if it prevents further escalation of the war, it is still mass extermination of a civilian population.
[quote]Shaved wrote:
I don’t understand how instantly killing 80,000 people, the majority of which civilian, would not be considered a war crime. Even if it prevents further escalation of the war, it is still mass extermination of a civilian population. [/quote]
We dropped fliers telling them to leave. We warned their government. We bombed low population areas that were more industry than residential. And we prevented escalation that would have ended in a bloody, horrible fight, virtually saving millions of lives.
While I’m still not entirely convinced use of nuclear weaponry was necessary, the way about which Truman got it done was to the very best of our ability, in the most humane way possible (if such a word as humane can even be applied to the nuclear option).
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
Shaved wrote:
I don’t understand how instantly killing 80,000 people, the majority of which civilian, would not be considered a war crime. Even if it prevents further escalation of the war, it is still mass extermination of a civilian population.
We dropped fliers telling them to leave. We warned their government. We bombed low population areas that were more industry than residential. And we prevented escalation that would have ended in a bloody, horrible fight, virtually saving millions of lives.
While I’m still not entirely convinced use of nuclear weaponry was necessary, the way about which Truman got it done was to the very best of our ability, in the most humane way possible (if such a word as humane can even be applied to the nuclear option). [/quote]
No. They didn’t get leaflet bombed them telling them they were going to be nuked. Regardless…they were murdered by the US government.
Just because someone warns you before murdering you doesn’t make it not murder.
[quote]Shaved wrote:
I don’t understand how instantly killing 80,000 people, the majority of which civilian, would not be considered a war crime. Even if it prevents further escalation of the war, it is still mass extermination of a civilian population. [/quote]
Because the Japanese made a point of attacking and killing civilian populations. In China the Japanese were known to use plague carrying fleas as a weapon against Chinese civilians. Even now many years after the war there are parts of Northern China that experience periodic outbreaks of the virulent strains of plague that the Japanese cultivated.
The Japanese broke the taboo on attacking civilian populations, they did it using WMD and to this day there are people who are dying because of them. Despite the actions of the Japanese, leftists want to cry foul that the Japanese got a taste of their own medicine.
Truman did the right thing. He had a narrow window of opportunity to end the war quickly and took it.