[quote]BrickHead wrote:
I believe GENERALLY speaking, in this day and age, employers do not give a rat’s ass about their employees. [/quote]
Considering the amount of unemployment, and people desperate for a job this is spot on. Most places go through temp services, accept a high rate of turnover until they find someone desperate enough to deal with their shit, and then grind them away. It’s even worse when working for a smaller company that get away with false promises and the bullshit.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
I believe GENERALLY speaking, in this day and age, employers do not give a rat’s ass about their employees. [/quote]
Considering the amount of unemployment, and people desperate for a job this is spot on. Most places go through temp services, accept a high rate of turnover until they find someone desperate enough to deal with their shit, and then grind them away. It’s even worse when working for a smaller company that get away with false promises and the bullshit. [/quote]
Maybe you should move away from Cleveland and/or toward a more white-collar line of work. And get new friends and neighbors.
The people in Columbus and even Cincinnati have a more positive outlook overall.
That kind of pessimism is contagious, and if you don’t forcibly remove yourself from it, it will drag you down and keep you there.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
Maybe you should move away from Cleveland [/quote]
Understatement of the year and if life was only that simple…
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
I believe GENERALLY speaking, in this day and age, employers do not give a rat’s ass about their employees. [/quote]
Considering the amount of unemployment, and people desperate for a job this is spot on. Most places go through temp services, accept a high rate of turnover until they find someone desperate enough to deal with their shit, and then grind them away. It’s even worse when working for a smaller company that get away with false promises and the bullshit. [/quote]
This right here.
I will later share some things that I have heard and experienced firsthand. Off to the gym for now.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
I believe GENERALLY speaking, in this day and age, employers do not give a rat’s ass about their employees. [/quote]
Considering the amount of unemployment, and people desperate for a job this is spot on. Most places go through temp services, accept a high rate of turnover until they find someone desperate enough to deal with their shit, and then grind them away. It’s even worse when working for a smaller company that get away with false promises and the bullshit. [/quote]
Maybe you should move away from Cleveland and/or toward a more white-collar line of work. And get new friends and neighbors.
The people in Columbus and even Cincinnati have a more positive outlook overall.
That kind of pessimism is contagious, and if you don’t forcibly remove yourself from it, it will drag you down and keep you there.[/quote]
The guy has a point. The economy and overall work culture are in a death spiral.
As I said, I can elaborate.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
I believe GENERALLY speaking, in this day and age, employers do not give a rat’s ass about their employees. [/quote]
Considering the amount of unemployment, and people desperate for a job this is spot on. Most places go through temp services, accept a high rate of turnover until they find someone desperate enough to deal with their shit, and then grind them away. It’s even worse when working for a smaller company that get away with false promises and the bullshit. [/quote]
Maybe you should move away from Cleveland and/or toward a more white-collar line of work. And get new friends and neighbors.
The people in Columbus and even Cincinnati have a more positive outlook overall.
That kind of pessimism is contagious, and if you don’t forcibly remove yourself from it, it will drag you down and keep you there.[/quote]
The guy has a point. The economy and overall work culture are in a death spiral.
As I said, I can elaborate. [/quote]
My company has added over 800 jobs worldwide in the last two years, and that’s somewhat conservative. Additionally Indianapolis is seeing growth in my industry as well as a number of related service industries.
Columbus (OH) is seeing the same. There are plenty of construction, banking, insurance jobs especially as they continue to revitalize the downtown and the younger generation is less interested in the suburban lifestyle. Raleigh, Denver and Portland are also growing cities, or at least have areas of significant growth.
As far as Ohio cities, Toledo, Akron and Cleveland are in some of the worst shape they’ve ever been. There are pockets of growth of course, but I’d avoid them if at all possible.
I mean, you can say the economy is in a death spiral, and I can say it’s at some of the highest growth in the last 10 years. It’s all relative to the industry and regional/local markets.
I get the point though. It’s the reason it took me several years and a fair amount of personal debt to get myself out of Southern Missouri. Before that I was in Cleveland. Once I left, it still took over a year before I realized that not everything was stagnant and horrible.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
I believe GENERALLY speaking, in this day and age, employers do not give a rat’s ass about their employees. [/quote]
Considering the amount of unemployment, and people desperate for a job this is spot on. Most places go through temp services, accept a high rate of turnover until they find someone desperate enough to deal with their shit, and then grind them away. It’s even worse when working for a smaller company that get away with false promises and the bullshit. [/quote]
Maybe you should move away from Cleveland and/or toward a more white-collar line of work. And get new friends and neighbors.
The people in Columbus and even Cincinnati have a more positive outlook overall.
That kind of pessimism is contagious, and if you don’t forcibly remove yourself from it, it will drag you down and keep you there.[/quote]
The guy has a point. The economy and overall work culture are in a death spiral.
As I said, I can elaborate. [/quote]
My company has added over 800 jobs worldwide in the last two years, and that’s somewhat conservative. Additionally Indianapolis is seeing growth in my industry as well as a number of related service industries.
Columbus (OH) is seeing the same. There are plenty of construction, banking, insurance jobs especially as they continue to revitalize the downtown and the younger generation is less interested in the suburban lifestyle. Raleigh, Denver and Portland are also growing cities, or at least have areas of significant growth.
As far as Ohio cities, Toledo, Akron and Cleveland are in some of the worst shape they’ve ever been. There are pockets of growth of course, but I’d avoid them if at all possible.
I mean, you can say the economy is in a death spiral, and I can say it’s at some of the highest growth in the last 10 years. It’s all relative to the industry and regional/local markets.
I get the point though. It’s the reason it took me several years and a fair amount of personal debt to get myself out of Southern Missouri. Before that I was in Cleveland. Once I left, it still took over a year before I realized that not everything was stagnant and horrible.[/quote]
Sorry but I disagree. Right now there are jobs available and industry is booming in most of the sectors I deal with. I dont know anyone in medical or construction/petro-chemical who cant pick and choose where they work.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Sorry but I disagree. Right now there are jobs available and industry is booming in most of the sectors I deal with. I dont know anyone in medical or construction/petro-chemical who cant pick and choose where they work. [/quote]
Hm. Disagreeing with me or Brick?
I don’t know anyone (with any level of actual competency) in software or medical who can’t pick and chose either.
If you have a limited skillset and you’re in an environment where that skillset isn’t in demand… and there are industries and regions where those skills are demand… and you choose not to make the changes to take advantage of that. Well, I kind of see that as your fault.
If your current situation does little but to make you depressed and angry, but you refuse to change it, there’s really not much to say.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Sorry but I disagree. Right now there are jobs available and industry is booming in most of the sectors I deal with. I dont know anyone in medical or construction/petro-chemical who cant pick and choose where they work. [/quote]
Hm. Disagreeing with me or Brick?
I don’t know anyone (with any level of actual competency) in software or medical who can’t pick and chose either.
If you have a limited skillset and you’re in an environment where that skillset isn’t in demand… and there are industries and regions where those skills are demand… and you choose not to make the changes to take advantage of that. Well, I kind of see that as your fault.
If your current situation does little but to make you depressed and angry, but you refuse to change it, there’s really not much to say.[/quote]
Was Brick not you sir.
[quote]Seppl wrote:
Im 19 years old, studying med School atm, but ill quit doing that.
I was pretty good in high School without studying anything, thats why i went to University. Problem is Im simply not interested in most studies(law, economy, technical, art, health studies not anymore)
My “Dream” Job would look like this:
max 40 hours/week (normal for labourers in Austria)
being outside most of the time (preferably nature)
Not primarily physical work, but at least some (40-60% physical, rest intellectual would be the Optimum)
traveling a lot would be nice, but is not a real criterium
Has anyone got suggestions/ideas/personal success stories?
Im asking here cause most of the People, that know me say that id fit into technical University, but i hate crunching numbers day in day out. [/quote]
I am going to guess your parents/teachers praised you on your intelligence. I was terrible at being “intelligent” when I was in school, but everyone around me (except my mother) praised me for working so hard on work.
Even though high school was “easy” for me, I continued to work hard on extracurricular stuff all the way today. So, this not wanting to work hard (for a basic job, which you won’t get any intellectual work if you don’t actually go to Uni.) is pretty mind numbing. You should always being pushing yourself.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
http://www.raptitude.com/2010/07/your-lifestyle-has-already-been-designed/[/quote]
And?
I work a 40-60 hour week, with 30-60 productive hours in it. I lift mid-morning sometimes, sometimes mid-day, sometimes late afternoon. Come into the office when I need to: work here when I want, and away when I want.
I just got back from drinking beer on the patio with coworkers. We have a few Foosball tables spread around the company, and two kegerators upstairs. We have a nap room, a massage room (with an LMT), two onsite gyms, a lake with a trail around it, a “bouldering” gym, an onsite clinic with a small scale pharmacy that’s free for all employees and their families.
Yeah, sure, there’s a standardized lifestyle that’s designed around a standardized amount of availability. My company has “core hours” of 10-4, that you need to generally be available, but otherwise you can work around it however.
This is one instance of modern corporate life. It’s not all dull and bleak like you, Brick, and that article suggests.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
http://www.raptitude.com/2010/07/your-lifestyle-has-already-been-designed/[/quote]
And?
I work a 40-60 hour week, with 30-60 productive hours in it. I lift mid-morning sometimes, sometimes mid-day, sometimes late afternoon. Come into the office when I need to: work here when I want, and away when I want.
I just got back from drinking beer on the patio with coworkers. We have a few Foosball tables spread around the company, and two kegerators upstairs. We have a nap room, a massage room (with an LMT), two onsite gyms, a lake with a trail around it, a “bouldering” gym, an onsite clinic with a small scale pharmacy that’s free for all employees and their families.
Yeah, sure, there’s a standardized lifestyle that’s designed around a standardized amount of availability. My company has “core hours” of 10-4, that you need to generally be available, but otherwise you can work around it however.
This is one instance of modern corporate life. It’s not all dull and bleak like you, Brick, and that article suggests.[/quote]
WHATâ?¦.THEEâ?¦…
FUCK?
Do you need any mechanical engineers?â?¦.maybe just a janitor, lol.
I have a desk, with a computer. And we are supposed to stay off the internet period. We can get up and walk around our shop if we want. aaaaand thats about it.
fuck.
I Got an interview coming on monday (already had a good phone interview) with a big biomed company though so I am hoping it goes well.
[quote]carbiduis wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
http://www.raptitude.com/2010/07/your-lifestyle-has-already-been-designed/[/quote]
And?
I work a 40-60 hour week, with 30-60 productive hours in it. I lift mid-morning sometimes, sometimes mid-day, sometimes late afternoon. Come into the office when I need to: work here when I want, and away when I want.
I just got back from drinking beer on the patio with coworkers. We have a few Foosball tables spread around the company, and two kegerators upstairs. We have a nap room, a massage room (with an LMT), two onsite gyms, a lake with a trail around it, a “bouldering” gym, an onsite clinic with a small scale pharmacy that’s free for all employees and their families.
Yeah, sure, there’s a standardized lifestyle that’s designed around a standardized amount of availability. My company has “core hours” of 10-4, that you need to generally be available, but otherwise you can work around it however.
This is one instance of modern corporate life. It’s not all dull and bleak like you, Brick, and that article suggests.[/quote]
WHATâ?¦.THEEâ?¦…
FUCK?
Do you need any mechanical engineers?â?¦.maybe just a janitor, lol.
I have a desk, with a computer. And we are supposed to stay off the internet period. We can get up and walk around our shop if we want. aaaaand thats about it.
fuck.
I Got an interview coming on monday (already had a good phone interview) with a big biomed company though so I am hoping it goes well.[/quote]
LOOOOOOOOOOOL
A work culture that doesn’t drain the life out of you is now a must for me as I’ve been spoiled.
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]carbiduis wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
http://www.raptitude.com/2010/07/your-lifestyle-has-already-been-designed/[/quote]
And?
I work a 40-60 hour week, with 30-60 productive hours in it. I lift mid-morning sometimes, sometimes mid-day, sometimes late afternoon. Come into the office when I need to: work here when I want, and away when I want.
I just got back from drinking beer on the patio with coworkers. We have a few Foosball tables spread around the company, and two kegerators upstairs. We have a nap room, a massage room (with an LMT), two onsite gyms, a lake with a trail around it, a “bouldering” gym, an onsite clinic with a small scale pharmacy that’s free for all employees and their families.
Yeah, sure, there’s a standardized lifestyle that’s designed around a standardized amount of availability. My company has “core hours” of 10-4, that you need to generally be available, but otherwise you can work around it however.
This is one instance of modern corporate life. It’s not all dull and bleak like you, Brick, and that article suggests.[/quote]
WHATÃ?¢?Ã?¦.THEEÃ?¢?Ã?¦…
FUCK?
Do you need any mechanical engineers?�¢?�¦.maybe just a janitor, lol.
I have a desk, with a computer. And we are supposed to stay off the internet period. We can get up and walk around our shop if we want. aaaaand thats about it.
fuck.
I Got an interview coming on monday (already had a good phone interview) with a big biomed company though so I am hoping it goes well.[/quote]
LOOOOOOOOOOOL
A work culture that doesn’t drain the life out of you is now a must for me as I’ve been spoiled.[/quote]
I love my job. I can leave if I don’t have appointments, we have lunches brought in all the time to celebrate or reward one goofy thing or another, I can screw around online if I have time (against the rules, but I’ve got a door). At this point I can exceed my productivity requirement and have all of my paperwork done in 40 hours. My team parties, but outside of work. Occasionally we leave early to do so. And I like the work I do.
Doesn’t compare to LoRez’s gig, but I like going there in the morning.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
http://www.raptitude.com/2010/07/your-lifestyle-has-already-been-designed/[/quote]
And?
I work a 40-60 hour week, with 30-60 productive hours in it. I lift mid-morning sometimes, sometimes mid-day, sometimes late afternoon. Come into the office when I need to: work here when I want, and away when I want.
I just got back from drinking beer on the patio with coworkers. We have a few Foosball tables spread around the company, and two kegerators upstairs. We have a nap room, a massage room (with an LMT), two onsite gyms, a lake with a trail around it, a “bouldering” gym, an onsite clinic with a small scale pharmacy that’s free for all employees and their families.
Yeah, sure, there’s a standardized lifestyle that’s designed around a standardized amount of availability. My company has “core hours” of 10-4, that you need to generally be available, but otherwise you can work around it however.
This is one instance of modern corporate life. It’s not all dull and bleak like you, Brick, and that article suggests.[/quote]
cool story bro.
[quote]carbiduis wrote:
WHATâ?¦.THEEâ?¦…
FUCK?
Do you need any mechanical engineers?[/quote]
I doubt it, but maybe. I’m not sure the culture’s quite the same in the area I’m thinking of – we did, once upon a time, build some of our own hardware, but it was in a different facility than our main campus. I’ll do a bit of asking around though. I don’t see anything listed on our public site, but that doesn’t necessarily mean anything.
There’s also a company in Huntsville, AL that I interned at that also had a pretty good work culture. That’s actually a pretty interesting town, once you get past the humidity and weird non-racist segregation of the city (literally there was a road, and the white people lived on one side and the black people lived on the other side, but there was no animosity). I know for sure they had mechanical engineering positions for their hardware design.
Either job wouldn’t be the most challenging job-wise, as far as ME work goes. On the other hand, Indy has a million race car teams and the companies to support them, so it might be something else to look into.