Jesus Rode a Dinosaur

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
harris447 wrote:
terribleivan wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:

Scream it. Shout it. Do whatever you want, it still does not make Darwinism science. It is simply a form of faith. Faith in the ability of the things that are made to create themselves in the absence of a Divine Creator.

Darwinism = Atheistic Relgion and nothing more. So, Pookie, you should look into that…

Very well put Steveo. When people talk about the evolutionary theroy, the all too often forget about the THEROY part. It is not fact, it is a theroy - hence the name.

I am not the least bit surprised. As a child in school, the teacher would say “now we will learn about the evolutionay theroy”, and then start refering to it as evolution. So, the confusion is natural because people forget to associate it with theroy - They mistakenly associate it with fact.

This whole line of thought could lead to a discussion on the lack of proper education in our schools, but I don’t want to throw this thread off track…

So, now we’re being educated about the scientific mthod by someone who cant spell ‘theory’ correctly.

For the 19 billionth time: a theory is not a guess. It’s not something some guy just pulled out of his ass.

A theory is a large schema MADE UP of facts.

Where the fuck did you guys go to college?

Harris,
I can imagine you teaching a bunch of teenagers. Didn’t you say you are a teacher? It really is too bad we can’t speak this bluntly to students, maybe stir up their brain matter a little bit!

Good post!

HH

[/quote]

I usually speak exactly this way to the little dumbasses while throwing chalk at 'em. They love it.

To paraphrase the Simpsons: “Other teachers reward knowledge; I punish ignorance.”

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[quote]swordthrower wrote:
swordthrower wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
Newton’s First Law is supported by the Creation account. God created in a literal six day time frame and then the Bible says He ended the creation. Matter cannot be created nor destroyed, only changed from one form of energy into another. This is one strong fact Pookie.

Newton’s Second Law (Entropy) – Systems “wind down” i.e. increase in chaos – not “evolve” into more complex and ordered forms. Look around you – society itself has degenerated over time, not to mention all of the natural disasters going on lately…

[/quote]

Wow. Thank you for giving us indisputable evidence of your ignorance of basic science.

Newtons 1st Law: In an inertial reference frame, an object moving at a constant velocity will remain remain moving at that velocity unless acted on by a force. What does that have to do with matter being created or destroyed? Anyway, we know through quantum mechanics, that matter can spontaneously appear and then disappear (the time-energy uncertainty principle allows this).

Newtons 2nd Law: The magnitude of the force exerted on an object is the time derivative of its momentum (the famous F=ma equation). You are thinking of the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, which states that the entropy of a closed system must increase with time. That means that the fact that you are breathing is violating the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics locally, but because your body is not a closed system, the overall entropy is increasing. Please don’t jump on the 2nd law bandwagon, because its hard for anyone to take you seriously.

Also, using society as an example of the 2nd law of thermodynamics is ridiculous and shows you have no grasp on the concept. Are you honestly suggesting that the complexity of society has decreased? Thousands of years ago humans were wandering around in loincloths throwing spears, and now we have organized governments, economies, etc. Please spare us the childish misuse of science next time.

And natural disasters? Please Jesus, tell me he is not serious. Does a hurricane seem like a good example of disorder? A spiraling system which rotates around a clearly defined central point? That’s disorder? If a hurricane doesn’t violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics locally, then I don’t know what does…

Steveo, I would suggest you pray for a good science education (didn’t you say you studied math???).

And last time I checked, I was still waiting for:

  1. Examples of Biblical prophecies which have come true (and thereby proving that it is truly God’s word).

  2. Examples of scientific evidence for a literal interpretation of Creation (and a 6000 year old Earth and universe).

  3. Any literalist who has a high-school level grasp of thermodynamics and cosmology.

[/quote]

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[quote]swordthrower wrote:
And last time I checked, I was still waiting for:

  1. Examples of Biblical prophecies which have come true (and thereby proving that it is truly God’s word).
    [/quote]

Four world empires to arise: Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome (Daniel chapters 2, 7, 8).

Cyrus to be the warrior to capture Babylon (Isaiah 45:1-3).

After Babylon’s destruction, it would never be inhabited again (Isaiah 13:19, 20; Jeremiah 51:37).

Egypt would never again have a commanding position among the nations (Ezekiel 29:14, 15; 30:12, 13).

Earth-shaking calamities and fear toward the end of time (Luke 21:25, 26).

Moral degeneracy and decline of spirituality in the last days (2 Timothy 3:1-5).

Fast transportion and increased knowledge in the last days
Daniel 12 : 4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

The Bible says, “And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, He [Jesus] expounded unto them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.” Luke 24:27. “For he [Apollos] vigorously refuted the Jews publicly, showing from the Scriptures that Jesus is the Christ.” Acts 18:28, NKJV.

The Old Testament predictions of the Messiah to come were so specific and so clearly fulfilled by Jesus of Nazareth that both Jesus and Apollos used these prophecies to prove to the Jews that Jesus was, indeed, the Messiah. There are more than 125 of these prophecies.

Here are just 12 of them:

(a) Old Testament Scripture

(b)New Testament Fulfillment

  1. Born in Bethlehem

(a)Micah 5:2
(b)Matthew 2:1

  1. Born of a virgin

(a)Isaiah 7:14
(b)Matthew 1:18-23

  1. Of David’s lineage

(a)Jeremiah 23:5
(b)Revelation 22:16

  1. Attempted murder by Herod

(a)Jeremiah 31:15
(b)Matthew 2:16-18

  1. Betrayal by a friend

(a)Psalms 41:9
(b)John 13:18, 19, 26

  1. Sold for 30 silver coins

(a)Zechariah 11:12
(b)Matthew 26:14-16

  1. Crucified

(a)Zechariah 12:10
(b)John 19:16-18, 37

  1. Lots cast for His clothes

(a)Psalms 22:18
(b)Matthew 27:35

  1. No bones broken

(a)Psalms 34:20; Exodus 12:46
(b)John 19:31-36

  1. Buried in rich man’s tomb

(a)Isaiah 53:9
(b)Matthew 27:57-60

  1. Year, day, hour of His death

(a)Daniel 9:26, 27; Exodus 12:6
(b)Matthew 27:45-50

  1. Raised the third day

(a)Hosea 6:2
(b)Acts 10:38-40

This is all I have time for right now. If you want more, just let me know.

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[quote]harris447 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
harris447 wrote:
terribleivan wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:

Scream it. Shout it. Do whatever you want, it still does not make Darwinism science. It is simply a form of faith. Faith in the ability of the things that are made to create themselves in the absence of a Divine Creator.

Darwinism = Atheistic Relgion and nothing more. So, Pookie, you should look into that…

Very well put Steveo. When people talk about the evolutionary theroy, the all too often forget about the THEROY part. It is not fact, it is a theroy - hence the name.

I am not the least bit surprised. As a child in school, the teacher would say “now we will learn about the evolutionay theroy”, and then start refering to it as evolution. So, the confusion is natural because people forget to associate it with theroy - They mistakenly associate it with fact.

This whole line of thought could lead to a discussion on the lack of proper education in our schools, but I don’t want to throw this thread off track…

So, now we’re being educated about the scientific mthod by someone who cant spell ‘theory’ correctly.

For the 19 billionth time: a theory is not a guess. It’s not something some guy just pulled out of his ass.

A theory is a large schema MADE UP of facts.

Where the fuck did you guys go to college?

Harris,
I can imagine you teaching a bunch of teenagers. Didn’t you say you are a teacher? It really is too bad we can’t speak this bluntly to students, maybe stir up their brain matter a little bit!

Good post!

HH

I usually speak exactly this way to the little dumbasses while throwing chalk at 'em. They love it.

To paraphrase the Simpsons: “Other teachers reward knowledge; I punish ignorance.”

[/quote]

Harris is a great example of what’s wrong in public schools today. He should travel around with President Bush and be the poster boy for the Privite school voucher program. It would pass for sure!

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The book of Job does not describe dinosaurs. That is a fact. If you interprest it that wasy then you are just pulling the woll over your own eyes. I read the book of job carefully to refute these claims and it clearly lacks any notion of dinosaurs.

In the book I think god is describing these animals called Behemoths and Leviathans. Their description match any large animal suck as an Elephant or crocodile. There are many quotes from it that make it unlikely for them to be dinosaurs.

God says in it that men attacked these animals with spears which is quite impossible if they were dinosaurs because any person with a brain know that dinosaurs were extinct long before man ever existed.

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[quote]paul bunyan wrote:
The book of Job does not describe dinosaurs. That is a fact. If you interprest it that wasy then you are just pulling the woll over your own eyes. I read the book of job carefully to refute these claims and it clearly lacks any notion of dinosaurs.

In the book I think god is describing these animals called Behemoths and Leviathans. Their description match any large animal suck as an Elephant or crocodile. There are many quotes from it that make it unlikely for them to be dinosaurs.

God says in it that men attacked these animals with spears which is quite impossible if they were dinosaurs because any person with a brain know that dinosaurs were extinct long before man ever existed. [/quote]

So, you said:

“God says in it that men attacked these animals with spears which is quite impossible if they were dinosaurs because any person with a brain know that dinosaurs were extinct long before man ever existed.”

Do you realize that your interpretation of Job is skewed by your own belief system?

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[quote]terribleivan wrote:
paul bunyan wrote:
The book of Job does not describe dinosaurs. That is a fact. If you interprest it that wasy then you are just pulling the woll over your own eyes. I read the book of job carefully to refute these claims and it clearly lacks any notion of dinosaurs.

In the book I think god is describing these animals called Behemoths and Leviathans. Their description match any large animal suck as an Elephant or crocodile. There are many quotes from it that make it unlikely for them to be dinosaurs.

God says in it that men attacked these animals with spears which is quite impossible if they were dinosaurs because any person with a brain know that dinosaurs were extinct long before man ever existed.

So, you said:

“God says in it that men attacked these animals with spears which is quite impossible if they were dinosaurs because any person with a brain know that dinosaurs were extinct long before man ever existed.”

Do you realize that your interpretation of Job is skewed by your own belief system?
[/quote]

What belief system.

I do believe you speak a load of twaddle.

It is amazing how people will twist their beliefs in a way to fit into the world around us.

So what happened to all the dinosaure then.

Did we eat them?

Oh no, they died in a flood. Of course they did.

So what about the swimming dinosaurs, the ictheosaur and the like…what happened to them, pray tell.

Did Jesus break them into a 1000 pieces to feed the masses? Is that what made the dissapear?

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[quote]swordthrower wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
swordthrower wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
atheists, homosexuals, Buddists, Muslims, secular philosophy

I can’t wait to get to hell to hang out with all my friends…

I think you forgot Jews. They’re all doomed too right? Poor bastards never hopped on the Jesus bandwagon and now they have to pay…

This is so out of context of what Steveo really intended, I’d have to conclude that you work for the Washington press corps!

And your sense of humor is so lacking, that I’d have to conclude that you’ve got some type of long wooden object up your ass. Should we really take this stuff seriously?

I like to have fun here, not just argue. [/quote]

Maybe the long wooden object is your NOSE, Pinocchio?

You misrepresented his words and come back with this BS? Beyond pathetic.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
swordthrower wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
swordthrower wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
atheists, homosexuals, Buddists, Muslims, secular philosophy

I can’t wait to get to hell to hang out with all my friends…

I think you forgot Jews. They’re all doomed too right? Poor bastards never hopped on the Jesus bandwagon and now they have to pay…

This is so out of context of what Steveo really intended, I’d have to conclude that you work for the Washington press corps!

And your sense of humor is so lacking, that I’d have to conclude that you’ve got some type of long wooden object up your ass. Should we really take this stuff seriously?

I like to have fun here, not just argue.

Maybe the long wooden object is your NOSE, Pinocchio?

You misrepresented his words and come back with this BS? Beyond pathetic.

[/quote]

So you DO have something long and wooden up your arse.

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[quote]miniross wrote:

It is amazing how people will twist their beliefs in a way to fit into the world around us.

[/quote]

It’s funny too! That’s why I love seeing you post!

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[quote]terribleivan wrote:
miniross wrote:

It is amazing how people will twist their beliefs in a way to fit into the world around us.

It’s funny too! That’s why I love seeing you post![/quote]

Oh i am so happy i have made you happy. I feel warm all over.

No, i pissed myself.

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[quote]miniross wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
swordthrower wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
swordthrower wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
atheists, homosexuals, Buddists, Muslims, secular philosophy

I can’t wait to get to hell to hang out with all my friends…

I think you forgot Jews. They’re all doomed too right? Poor bastards never hopped on the Jesus bandwagon and now they have to pay…

This is so out of context of what Steveo really intended, I’d have to conclude that you work for the Washington press corps!

And your sense of humor is so lacking, that I’d have to conclude that you’ve got some type of long wooden object up your ass. Should we really take this stuff seriously?

I like to have fun here, not just argue.

Maybe the long wooden object is your NOSE, Pinocchio?

You misrepresented his words and come back with this BS? Beyond pathetic.

So you DO have something long and wooden up your arse.[/quote]

Yes, then I shat it out and it began to speak of how lovely Kent is, in the Springtime.

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[quote]terribleivan wrote:
miniross wrote:

It is amazing how people will twist their beliefs in a way to fit into the world around us.

It’s funny too! That’s why I love seeing you post![/quote]

so what happened to the ictheosaur?

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
miniross wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
swordthrower wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
swordthrower wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
atheists, homosexuals, Buddists, Muslims, secular philosophy

I can’t wait to get to hell to hang out with all my friends…

I think you forgot Jews. They’re all doomed too right? Poor bastards never hopped on the Jesus bandwagon and now they have to pay…

This is so out of context of what Steveo really intended, I’d have to conclude that you work for the Washington press corps!

And your sense of humor is so lacking, that I’d have to conclude that you’ve got some type of long wooden object up your ass. Should we really take this stuff seriously?

I like to have fun here, not just argue.

Maybe the long wooden object is your NOSE, Pinocchio?

You misrepresented his words and come back with this BS? Beyond pathetic.

So you DO have something long and wooden up your arse.

Yes, then I shat it out and it began to speak of how lovely Kent is, in the Springtime.

[/quote]

so you HAVE been to Kent, then?

I hope this one will make it past the mod.

They are getting far too touchy these days! Mention a family member in a position with a goat and its deleted.

DAMN YOU! (You actually do a good job!)

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[quote]miniross wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
miniross wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
swordthrower wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
swordthrower wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
atheists, homosexuals, Buddists, Muslims, secular philosophy

I can’t wait to get to hell to hang out with all my friends…

I think you forgot Jews. They’re all doomed too right? Poor bastards never hopped on the Jesus bandwagon and now they have to pay…

This is so out of context of what Steveo really intended, I’d have to conclude that you work for the Washington press corps!

And your sense of humor is so lacking, that I’d have to conclude that you’ve got some type of long wooden object up your ass. Should we really take this stuff seriously?

I like to have fun here, not just argue.

Maybe the long wooden object is your NOSE, Pinocchio?

You misrepresented his words and come back with this BS? Beyond pathetic.

So you DO have something long and wooden up your arse.

Yes, then I shat it out and it began to speak of how lovely Kent is, in the Springtime.

so you HAVE been to Kent, then?

I hope this one will make it past the mod.

They are getting far too touchy these days! Mention a family member in a position with a goat and its deleted.

DAMN YOU! (You actually do a good job!)[/quote]

That was weak, dude, very weak. Most of my students would come back with better than that.

Who’s more likely to have been to Kent, you or I?

Your done. Back to lusting after the Queen, Sir Smokey McCracken.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
swordthrower wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
swordthrower wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
atheists, homosexuals, Buddists, Muslims, secular philosophy

I can’t wait to get to hell to hang out with all my friends…

I think you forgot Jews. They’re all doomed too right? Poor bastards never hopped on the Jesus bandwagon and now they have to pay…

This is so out of context of what Steveo really intended, I’d have to conclude that you work for the Washington press corps!

And your sense of humor is so lacking, that I’d have to conclude that you’ve got some type of long wooden object up your ass. Should we really take this stuff seriously?

I like to have fun here, not just argue.

Maybe the long wooden object is your NOSE, Pinocchio?

You misrepresented his words and come back with this BS? Beyond pathetic.

[/quote]

I took his words out of context ON PURPOSE, to make a joke. But thank you for proving my point.

Wait, doesn’t Pinnochio have a long, wooden nose? Dude that’s sick! You want me to stick my nose up your ass? That’s just wrong (I think it says so in the Bible, too). What’s next, gay marriage and buy-one-get-one-free specials at the abortion clinic?

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
miniross wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
miniross wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
swordthrower wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
swordthrower wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
atheists, homosexuals, Buddists, Muslims, secular philosophy

I can’t wait to get to hell to hang out with all my friends…

I think you forgot Jews. They’re all doomed too right? Poor bastards never hopped on the Jesus bandwagon and now they have to pay…

This is so out of context of what Steveo really intended, I’d have to conclude that you work for the Washington press corps!

And your sense of humour is so lacking, that I’d have to conclude that you’ve got some type of long wooden object up your ass. Should we really take this stuff seriously?

I like to have fun here, not just argue.

Maybe the long wooden object is your NOSE, Pinocchio?

You misrepresented his words and come back with this BS? Beyond pathetic.

So you DO have something long and wooden up your arse.

Yes, then I shat it out and it began to speak of how lovely Kent is, in the Springtime.

so you HAVE been to Kent, then?

I hope this one will make it past the mod.

They are getting far too touchy these days! Mention a family member in a position with a goat and its deleted.

DAMN YOU! (You actually do a good job!)

That was weak, dude, very weak. Most of my students would come back with better than that.

Who’s more likely to have been to Kent, you or I?

Your done. Back to lusting after the Queen, Sir Smokey McCracken.[/quote]

Alright g’vnor me old mate, after buggering the queen i ill now deal with your comment, god bless the queen g’vnor.

Deary Deary me, sorry my previous comment WAS edited by the mods, so there you go, you will never feel the full extent of my wrath!

Anyway, you as a teacher? (i guess), now that IS weak. Better teach tour students better next time, as you prove yourself complicit in their ineptitude.

Kent is only a flight away, and frankly it is very possible that you could have been ther, like i to your backwater.

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[quote]FlyingEmuOfDoom wrote:
swordthrower wrote:
And last time I checked, I was still waiting for:

  1. Examples of Biblical prophecies which have come true (and thereby proving that it is truly God’s word).
    [/quote]

Uh, there have only been four world empires?

[quote]
Cyrus to be the warrior to capture Babylon (Isaiah 45:1-3).[/quote]

How in the world could they have known that. Truly amazing.

[quote]
After Babylon’s destruction, it would never be inhabited again (Isaiah 13:19, 20; Jeremiah 51:37).[/quote]

So, if I move there right now will I be violating a Biblical prophecy? Hmmm…

[quote]
Egypt would never again have a commanding position among the nations (Ezekiel 29:14, 15; 30:12, 13).[/quote]

Yeah, Egypt blows.

[quote]
Earth-shaking calamities and fear toward the end of time (Luke 21:25, 26).[/quote]

Gee, you think? How is the world supposed to end WITHOUT natural disasters or calmaities?

[quote]
Moral degeneracy and decline of spirituality in the last days (2 Timothy 3:1-5).[/quote]

Yeah, our first mistake was freeing the slaves, and then we let women vote! Talk about moral decay… Shit, we haven’t burned any witches in a while. The last days are upon us!

[quote]
Fast transportion and increased knowledge in the last days
Daniel 12 : 4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.[/quote]

“run to and fro”=fast transportation? That’s a bit of a stretch, but regardless, how could transportation get SLOWER, and knowledge DECREASE?

[quote]
The Bible says, “And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, He [Jesus] expounded unto them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.” Luke 24:27. “For he [Apollos] vigorously refuted the Jews publicly, showing from the Scriptures that Jesus is the Christ.” Acts 18:28, NKJV.

The Old Testament predictions of the Messiah to come were so specific and so clearly fulfilled by Jesus of Nazareth that both Jesus and Apollos used these prophecies to prove to the Jews that Jesus was, indeed, the Messiah. There are more than 125 of these prophecies.

Here are just 12 of them:

(a) Old Testament Scripture

(b)New Testament Fulfillment

  1. Born in Bethlehem

(a)Micah 5:2
(b)Matthew 2:1

  1. Born of a virgin

(a)Isaiah 7:14
(b)Matthew 1:18-23

  1. Of David’s lineage

(a)Jeremiah 23:5
(b)Revelation 22:16

  1. Attempted murder by Herod

(a)Jeremiah 31:15
(b)Matthew 2:16-18

  1. Betrayal by a friend

(a)Psalms 41:9
(b)John 13:18, 19, 26

  1. Sold for 30 silver coins

(a)Zechariah 11:12
(b)Matthew 26:14-16

  1. Crucified

(a)Zechariah 12:10
(b)John 19:16-18, 37

  1. Lots cast for His clothes

(a)Psalms 22:18
(b)Matthew 27:35

  1. No bones broken

(a)Psalms 34:20; Exodus 12:46
(b)John 19:31-36

  1. Buried in rich man’s tomb

(a)Isaiah 53:9
(b)Matthew 27:57-60

  1. Year, day, hour of His death

(a)Daniel 9:26, 27; Exodus 12:6
(b)Matthew 27:45-50

  1. Raised the third day

(a)Hosea 6:2
(b)Acts 10:38-40

This is all I have time for right now. If you want more, just let me know.[/quote]

Okay, so the rest is just the Bible agreeing with itself. I would hope that the writers could at least write a self-consistent book. So if I write a religious tome and I say that the Great Bob will rise from dead, and then I write that Great Bob did rise from the dead, then it will be proven to be true?

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
miniross wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
miniross wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
swordthrower wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
swordthrower wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
atheists, homosexuals, Buddists, Muslims, secular philosophy

I can’t wait to get to hell to hang out with all my friends…

I think you forgot Jews. They’re all doomed too right? Poor bastards never hopped on the Jesus bandwagon and now they have to pay…

This is so out of context of what Steveo really intended, I’d have to conclude that you work for the Washington press corps!

And your sense of humor is so lacking, that I’d have to conclude that you’ve got some type of long wooden object up your ass. Should we really take this stuff seriously?

I like to have fun here, not just argue.

Maybe the long wooden object is your NOSE, Pinocchio?

You misrepresented his words and come back with this BS? Beyond pathetic.

So you DO have something long and wooden up your arse.

Yes, then I shat it out and it began to speak of how lovely Kent is, in the Springtime.

so you HAVE been to Kent, then?

I hope this one will make it past the mod.

They are getting far too touchy these days! Mention a family member in a position with a goat and its deleted.

DAMN YOU! (You actually do a good job!)

That was weak, dude, very weak. Most of my students would come back with better than that.

Who’s more likely to have been to Kent, you or I?

Your done. Back to lusting after the Queen, Sir Smokey McCracken.[/quote]

Oh, and good comeback. I really feel put in my place.