[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:
[quote]Totenkopf wrote:
I was definitely right about this being the most awesome season ever. Heres a run down-
Jwow gets dumped
Sammie punches Ron in the face and leaves
Vinny finally getting tons of Ass
Sitch and Ron fights
Ron will eventually have a huge meltdown[/quote]
Tsk tsk. Say SPOILER first!
I hope we get this season over here soon, or at least some means to view it online.[/quote]
Sorry! This is all kinda shown on the preview anyway.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
I guess my problem is that I don’t want any censorship, and America has been more and more pro conservative censorship ever since Janet’s nipple showed up in the Super Bowl. We’re turning into a bunch of puritan pussies that can’t raise our own kids, TV and advertising does.
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I’m saying that society has allowed shit like this to be deemed OK and popular. Therefore we get it in droves. It’s pretty sad when you need to watch a bunch of losers for entertainment. It’s the dumbing down of our society I’m talking about.[/quote]
What about violent video games? MMA? Football?
What about when the Roman’s used to let Lions fucking eat slaves? Now that was wholesome family entertainment?
Dude this type of shit has been going on since the beginning of society. It is what sells.
The dirty, dark, and forbidden is what people want. It’s what they buy, whether that be with attention or dollars. People want to experiment, people are enthralled by the “wrong way”. We have been since the begging of time man. Why do you think we made Coke, Heroin, Meth, Acid, etc etc etc. I mean think about the first retard that ate a mushroom off a pile of shit and tripped balls. I mean really, who the fuck thinks: “Lets eat this fungus off a pile of shit, yum, yum, yum”?
People said this same shit about Elvis 60 years ago or so…
No one wants poop dick, but because it is forbidden, most dudes want to PIIHP.
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When the stupid, morally bankrupt shows are what people want today (SEX, SEX, narcissism and hedonism)… what do we ultimately expect out of our society and it’s next generation? Something different?[/quote]
I’m a fuck load different than my parents.
My son is different than I in certain ways too.
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My only option is NOT TV period if I even attempt to control it.
During regular daytime network TV we are assaulted by “My Dick is soft, make it hard” ED commercials… and Trojan Dildo commercials in the middle of the day.
I’m saying there needs to be less dysfunctional shows on TV to protect our kids. Maybe it is a type of censorship but the opposite is teaching us to be a morally bankrupt society otherwise.
Think about it.[/quote]
I am. I have.
Thing is, I don’t have a problem with condom commercials, I hope my kids use them, and the more education they have about them, and how to use them, the better. I want my kids to think that sex, and particularly protected sex is main stream and normal. I want my kids to have a healthy view of sex, not think of it as something forbidden that should be only discussed in the dark corners of the home. The age of “leave it to beaver” only fucked up our nation and our nations view of sex. Europe is light years ahead of America when it comes to the concept of sex, sexuality, and the fact it is OK to want to and have sex.
I don’t have a problem with sex being on TV. Because I’ve talked to my son about what sex is, what it means and what is does and can lead to. He knows that what happens in porn is not what typical sex and love are, he knows that TV is not real life.
Shows like Sex in the City, while I feel are fucking stupid, it is good they are on TV. Women should feel free to have a sexual identity, and if it so happens it is the type of identity that more akin with a traditionally masculine point of view, fine.
I think government control of TV is the very most WRONG thing to do, and very anti-American. Censorship, “for the kids” or not, makes me sick to my stomach. Now I don’t want hardcore anal porn on ABC at 7pm, but fuck if the government should decide the morals and guides of me and my family. Fuck that noise. I am free, and I want to keep it that way. I don’t want some corporation or government deciding what is or isn’t right for me or my child.
I choose to educate my child as much as I can, and try and teach him how to make good choices, and allow him to watch TV, watch the bad movies, and listen to the music with swears in it. I was never censored or protected from myself as a child, and did just fine. But I was also smart enough to make good judgments. Shit, being exposed to certain things truly helped shape who I was and choices I made.
That comment wasn’t aimed solely at you, nor was it an attack. But if you think today’s censorship and control of the airways is laughable, you are more conservative than you think, or at least hella more than myself. (Granted I’m pretty left about certain things, pretty right about others, but mostly “Government should leave me the fuck alone” about things.)
Dude, America is so fucking uptight about sex… You are getting upset by condom commercials, lol. I mean safe sex is something, as a society, we should be able to be open and frank about. Particularly on networks aimed at teens, and other groups who very typically act like fucking retards when it comes to sex.
Look, I get where you are coming from, and we agree that Tv, for the most part is redonk and shouldn’t be watched in general (notice my post count, lol). I just feel like the solution is with us, the parents, and let TV do its thing. And it seems like you feel like the solution is someone or something controlling programing, and let parents do there thing.
We aren’t even that far apart on this, just have different solutions I feel like.
I mean, okay, lets say you get just want you want and get to choose what programs air and when. (Aside from the parental controls you can already place on your cable box.) So, when Aunt Sally calls you up and says that Call of Duty is too violent, are you going to pull that game from the shelves? What about MMA? Can that play on air on Spike?
Once you start the censorship for the kids, where does it stop? And how do you determine the lines in the sand?[/quote]
I agree with alot of what you said, I disagree or feel differently, whichever you want in a couple of ways. One, my feeling and observation is the more you allow your children to watch supoervised tv/web the more they will watch unsupervised on their own, and the more extreme the contnt will be without supervision, because this is how it works. We learn what our parents say is okay and then take it farther when they are not watching. i also feel that we live in a world where most kids are watching tv/web all day with no supervision/guidance. I believ the real concern is when children can engage with their peers about this stuff outside of the supervision of adults. This is when ideas get exchanged, and habits and behaviors get formed. I was not allowed much of the pop culture BS growing up, and while it made it a little harder to involve myself on every level with y frineds, I feel to this day that the effects of not being allowed access to crap tv is what allowed me to develop the abilities to think and analyze the way I can today. I also do not see the sam e abilities with peers my age who were raised with an unhealthy dosed of cable.given me t Call me crazy, but if I walked past a playground and saw a bunch of kids acting like Snookie, Jwoww and the Situation I would be fucking depressed and willing to acknowledge the coming apocalypse.
[quote]Totenkopf wrote:
[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:
[quote]Totenkopf wrote:
I was definitely right about this being the most awesome season ever. Heres a run down-
Jwow gets dumped
Sammie punches Ron in the face and leaves
Vinny finally getting tons of Ass
Sitch and Ron fights
Ron will eventually have a huge meltdown[/quote]
Tsk tsk. Say SPOILER first!
I hope we get this season over here soon, or at least some means to view it online.[/quote]
Sorry! This is all kinda shown on the preview anyway.
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Haha it’s cool man. J/K. I’ll probably forget this post by the time I watch the show eventually anyway 
[quote]SILVERDAN7 wrote:
I get you completely on this. I started watching it when I realized that it was actually an accurately hilarious show about how shallow and pathetic much of my generation has become.This is the only reality show I have ever watched, and I do it because it is so realistic. The reALism is a major issue.[/quote]
This is why I enjoy the show. I never liked any other reality show like the real world. As a person that hung out with kids like this guys and partied down the Jersey shore every summer in my 20’s, I can say it is very accurate and I can relate. It’s not just your generation either. They could’ve made this show in Seaside heights in 1990 and you’d see the same behavior. Except instead of ripped in shape guidos driving 3 series bimmers, it was huge 20" arm guidos driving IROC’s and Mustangs and bitches with big hair. They were just as shallow and more rowdy than the guidos you see in the show today. For anyone living in NJ and over 30, it’s nothing new.
The real reason why shows like this have alot of viewers is rather simple.
People want to be entertained. After a long day at work, alot of people don’t want to watch a documentary about middle-ages or the First Crusade. People want to laugh, watch brainless tv-shows and relax. This is why there is alot more comedy based tv-shows airing these days compared to 90’s f.e.
The priorities have changed. The faster you catch up, the easier it will be for yourself…
[quote]NuYi wrote:
The real reason why shows like this have alot of viewers is rather simple.
People want to be entertained. After a long day at work, alot of people don’t want to watch a documentary about middle-ages or the First Crusade. People want to laugh, watch brainless tv-shows and relax. This is why there is alot more comedy based tv-shows airing these days compared to 90’s f.e.
The priorities have changed. The faster you catch up, the easier it will be for yourself…[/quote]
LOL
Just assume that everyone wants to watch brainless TV.
There were plenty comedies in the 90’s, good ones even, it’s Reality TV which is why I almost never watch TV anymore.
[quote]RSGZ wrote:
There were plenty comedies in the 90’s, good ones even[/quote]
In Living Color is still my all time favorite show
More on topic, it was good to see future Mrs. 1492 back on TV
The only thing good that came out of that show was Snookie getting punched.
Sammie’s a cunt but Deena is just an awkward fucking lady.
Loved how the guys were just sitting on the sidelines during the altercation while clearly having a blast, though.
[quote]RSGZ wrote:
[quote]NuYi wrote:
The real reason why shows like this have alot of viewers is rather simple.
People want to be entertained. After a long day at work, alot of people don’t want to watch a documentary about middle-ages or the First Crusade. People want to laugh, watch brainless tv-shows and relax. This is why there is alot more comedy based tv-shows airing these days compared to 90’s f.e.
The priorities have changed. The faster you catch up, the easier it will be for yourself…[/quote]
LOL
Just assume that everyone wants to watch brainless TV.
There were plenty comedies in the 90’s, good ones even, it’s Reality TV which is why I almost never watch TV anymore.[/quote]
I’m talking about the average Joe. He want’s to watch reality TV now, because it’s funny and entertaining. That was my point.
[quote]RSGZ wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Thing is, I talked to my 13 year old about it. He doesn’t see it as anything to emulate. He thinks they are retards, and the girls are nasty. It was a simple conversation. Just like when he bought Black Ops. I sat down with him and talked about how shooting people in the video game is one thing, but violence against someone else in real life is wrong, unless you are defending yourself. He understood that too. Just like when we shut off the Fast and Furious movie, we talked about how driving like that in real life is stupid, etc etc etc…
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Not to derail this thread, and while I wholeheartedly respect this, I’m just curious; did your parents have to explain this too when you were that age?[/quote]
My mother and I def had the “real sex isn’t like the porn movies” talk. I remember because unfortunately she was right.
I was young when I saw one and she wanted to be sure I didn’t think disrespecting women was the way to live my life.
[quote]I’m just wondering if times are changing [have changed] that much, in that kids don’t have a sense of logic in basic right and wrong. I’m not saying that’s your case, maybe you’re doing what you’re supposed to do and being extra cautious to make sure your kid(s) perfectly understand where to draw the line.
My parents never needed lectured me on the violence of video games and influence of tv and how to separate it from real life, did you find that the same?[/quote]
Well the video games I had as a kid were 8 and 16 bit, shit looked like legos on the screen. I don’t care what the game is about, you can’t take legos serious. Now they look real.
I’m saying the “talk” I had with my boy amounted to:
beans: You know that is just a game right?
the boy: Yeah
beans: You know that violence isn’t the answer in real life, and if I catch you doing anything other than defending yourself your ass is grass right?
the boy: I know
He was annoyed at that point and using the “jesus what does he think I’m an idiot” tone of voice with me.
He “gets” it. But I wouldn’t have a clear conscious if I didn’t at least say it, even though I trust him to make good choices, for the most part.
I remember my parents mentioning things like that. There were no 3 hour lectures, but it was def mentioned. Like when my Aunt bought me the Onyx tape, and my mom heard the lyrics. She was like “you know you can’t talk like that or I’ll slap your mouth right?” and I knew already, but she still said it.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]RSGZ wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Thing is, I talked to my 13 year old about it. He doesn’t see it as anything to emulate. He thinks they are retards, and the girls are nasty. It was a simple conversation. Just like when he bought Black Ops. I sat down with him and talked about how shooting people in the video game is one thing, but violence against someone else in real life is wrong, unless you are defending yourself. He understood that too. Just like when we shut off the Fast and Furious movie, we talked about how driving like that in real life is stupid, etc etc etc…
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Not to derail this thread, and while I wholeheartedly respect this, I’m just curious; did your parents have to explain this too when you were that age?[/quote]
My mother and I def had the “real sex isn’t like the porn movies” talk. I remember because unfortunately she was right.
I was young when I saw one and she wanted to be sure I didn’t think disrespecting women was the way to live my life.
[quote]I’m just wondering if times are changing [have changed] that much, in that kids don’t have a sense of logic in basic right and wrong. I’m not saying that’s your case, maybe you’re doing what you’re supposed to do and being extra cautious to make sure your kid(s) perfectly understand where to draw the line.
My parents never needed lectured me on the violence of video games and influence of tv and how to separate it from real life, did you find that the same?[/quote]
Well the video games I had as a kid were 8 and 16 bit, shit looked like legos on the screen. I don’t care what the game is about, you can’t take legos serious. Now they look real.
I’m saying the “talk” I had with my boy amounted to:
beans: You know that is just a game right?
the boy: Yeah
beans: You know that violence isn’t the answer in real life, and if I catch you doing anything other than defending yourself your ass is grass right?
the boy: I know
He was annoyed at that point and using the “jesus what does he think I’m an idiot” tone of voice with me.
He “gets” it. But I wouldn’t have a clear conscious if I didn’t at least say it, even though I trust him to make good choices, for the most part.
I remember my parents mentioning things like that. There were no 3 hour lectures, but it was def mentioned. Like when my Aunt bought me the Onyx tape, and my mom heard the lyrics. She was like “you know you can’t talk like that or I’ll slap your mouth right?” and I knew already, but she still said it.
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Haha, yeah, I see what you mean. I had it the exact same, you definitely have to let your kids know your stance on such matters but I just thought that if people were having to give them long lectures about these simple dos and donts that there was something going horribly wrong with out kids today.
I know the world as we knew it back then (even as recently as the 90s) has change quite a bit, so I can only speculate how that is going to affect kids growing up. With easy access to just about anything via the internet, mind-numbing reality tv, etc, you can only guess what kind of effect that’s going to have.
Man after seeing the episode again…I really believe Ronny took the 3 bed, room to covertly breakup MVP. Kill the head and you kill the group. Ronny knows that sammi ruined his good time on the show, and even though he says he loves her, he knows he fucked up his legacy on the show by being forced to hangout in the bedroom with sammi all the time, while mvp goes creepin lol!
The new broad deena looks like Broom Hilda, but her body is awesome. Sammi needs to get an ass in the worst way.
Season 4 goes to Italy, porca miseria !
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Season 4 goes to Italy, porca miseria ![/quote]
I think it will be boring. They should send them to Juarez or Tijuana. Dodging kidnapping and murder would be more entertaining than eating good food and not being able to talk to anyone.
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Season 4 goes to Italy, porca miseria ![/quote]
I think it will be boring. They should send them to Juarez or Tijuana. Dodging kidnapping and murder would be more entertaining than eating good food and not being able to talk to anyone.[/quote]
I think they should take it to Seattle. Or better yet, Antarctica. Yeah! Fist pump now, you overpaid clowns!
[quote]postholedigger wrote:
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Season 4 goes to Italy, porca miseria ![/quote]
I think it will be boring. They should send them to Juarez or Tijuana. Dodging kidnapping and murder would be more entertaining than eating good food and not being able to talk to anyone.[/quote]
I think they should take it to Seattle. Or better yet, Antarctica. Yeah! Fist pump now, you overpaid clowns![/quote]
Pfft, to the deep south. Have some back water rednecks chasing them down as they complain about everything.
Im sure Italy will be awesome. After season 1 I thought that the show would die but season 2 was awesome and season 3 has been entraining so far. Next weeks episode looks tight.
I hope they go to Italy and everyone there makes fun of them for not being real Italians and no one thinks they’re hot shit. That’d be entertaining for sure
They seriously better not fuck around too much, they don’t play over there. Not kidding here, I wouldn’t be surprised if they threw rotten fruit and veggies at them when they landed. Shit, they did that to the Italian Soccer Team when they got booted in the first round of the 2010 World Cup, and they are national heroes LOL.
Please fuck with one of the Swiss Guard, please.
FUCK! I missed so much. I need to start watching.