[quote]k.elkouhen wrote:
You were talking about the Bible, so…
Anyhow, if you want quotes from the New Testament, here are a couple :
5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
3:9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
3:10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
6:11 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
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Are you just pulling Bible verses out at random? First you quote the Old-Testament, which is a complete non-sequitur here, then you pull out some New-Testament verses that truthfully have nothing to do with the discussion at hand. If you think they do, then you need to read the Bible more carefully, and understand that Jesus relied heavily on figurative language. Jesus was not literally chopping down a tree, nor was he calling for his followers to embark on a violent crusade.
The fact that you obviously need the context here explained to you is pretty condemning evidence that you do not know what you are talking about RE: the Bible.
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
I understand your point, but the substantive difference is that the Bible does not call for military crusades, nor was Jesus a military leader famous for spreading his word by the sword. Contrast that to the Qu’ran, which textually affirms both for the religion of Islam. [/quote]
I think this sentence is what you’re trying to challenge. But you will be hard-pressed to challenge this by merely pulling Bible passages out of a hat.
You will also have a hard time challenging that the Bible urges Christians to use violence, because it doesn’t. Nowhere does Jesus call for Christians to spread the word through the use of violence or the sword, and nowhere does Jesus himself use violence to spread his message. In fact, the heart of Jesus’s message was the exact opposite.
It may seem otherwise if you read single passages completely out of context, and this is why you must have a strong understanding of the Bible or the Koran if you try to argue what their message is.
