Novak just promised in an interview to divulge everything after the case is closed.
By then it will be irrelevant as the Time, Inc. documents are set to be released.
Who do you think is going to take the fall for the this?
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jlesk68: The news media have proven themselves capable of whoring themselves out without being muscled by Homeland Security, thank you very much. I don’t see this as an issue of “write what you’re told.” There was no prior restraint involved, even though what Novak did what despicable. Can you point to a political reason that these two reporters are being singled out? Actually, can you point to ANY reason at ALL that these two reporters are being singled out? Because I haven’t seen one yet.
[quote]Marmadogg wrote:
Novak just promised in an interview to divulge everything after the case is closed.
By then it will be irrelevant as the Time, Inc. documents are set to be released.
Who do you think is going to take the fall for the this?[/quote]
Karl Rove!
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[quote]100meters wrote:
Marmadogg wrote:
Novak just promised in an interview to divulge everything after the case is closed.
By then it will be irrelevant as the Time, Inc. documents are set to be released.
Who do you think is going to take the fall for the this?
Karl Rove!
[/quote]
Yep, Rove it is!
MSNBC Analyst and a Newsweek Reporter Say Karl Rove Named in Matt Cooper Documents
Lawrence O’Donnell, senior MSNBC political analyst, now claims that at least two authoritative sources have confirmed that one name is top White House mastermind Karl Rove.
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000972841
Looks like Rove is being implicated.
The next question is did Rove ‘knowingly’ disclose Plame’s identity.
Either Rove is a criminal or a moron.
Think about it…
[quote]Marmadogg wrote:
Looks like Rove is being implicated.
The next question is did Rove ‘knowingly’ disclose Plame’s identity.
Either Rove is a criminal or a moron.
Think about it…[/quote]
Far from being a moron, I think he’s a diabolical genius and a criminal.
It would be interesting if it turns out be Rove. As far as the journalist go. They are looking for protection that was designed to protect whistle blowers not Rat bastards.
Valerie Plame would be very easy to find. If something were to happen to Ms. Plame the reporters could be liable. The whole thing is a no brainier.
Clinton will go to jail before Rove does.
Well, things get interesting… the White House is beyond question according to the cheerleaders around here, but what will we do about the following…
WASHINGTON - For two years, the White House has insisted that presidential adviser Karl Rove had nothing to do with the leak of a CIA officer’s identity. And President Bush said the leaker would be fired.
Should we continue to have blind faith in our leaders and assume they can do no wrong?
Another blurblet about Rove and the White House…
[i]But let’s put aside the legal issues for a moment. This email demonstrates that Rove committed a firing offense. He leaked national security information as part of a fierce campaign to undermine Wilson, who had criticized the White House on the war on Iraq. Rove’s overworked attorney, Robert Luskin, defends his client by arguing that Rove never revealed the name of Valerie Plame/Wilson to Cooper and that he only referred to her as Wilson’s wife. This is not much of a defense. If Cooper or any other journalist had written that “Wilson’s wife works for the CIA”–without mentioning her name–such a disclosure could have been expected to have the same effect as if her name had been used: Valerie Wilson would have been compromised, her anti-WMD work placed at risk, and national security potentially harmed.
Either Rove knew that he was revealing an undercover officer to a reporter or he was identifying a CIA officer without bothering to check on her status and without considering the consequences of outing her. Take your pick: in both scenarios Rove is acting in a reckless and cavalier fashion, ignoring the national security interests of the nation to score a political point against a policy foe.
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Can George W. Bush countenance such conduct within the White House? Consider what White House press secretary Scott McClellan said on September 29, 2003, after the news broke that the Justice Department was investigating the leak. McClellan declared of the Plame/CIA leak, “That is not the way this White House operates. The president expects everyone in his administration to adhere to the highest standards of conduct. No one would be authorized to do such a thing.”[/i]
Looks like the White House is just playing politics as usual… and isn’t the great bastion of higher standards we are being led to believe by the cheerleaders around here.
Who’s playing word games now?
White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove spoke with at least one reporter about Valerie Plame’s role at the CIA before she was identified as a covert agent in a newspaper column two years ago, but Rove’s lawyer said yesterday that his client did not identify her by name.
The reporters get convicted but Rove doesn’t even get fired. What bullshit. Protect your own, I guess.
Rove is currently being tried in the court of popular opinion. Not a real court.
He has not been indicted or tried nor is he the subject of a subpoena. The reporters were.
If he is tried and found guilty he will face the same penalty as anyone else, and he should.
Politics is a vicious dirty game these days, played by tough characters on both sides. He knows the life and the stakes.
My predicition is he will never do a day in jail.
[quote]hedo wrote:
Rove is currently being tried in the court of popular opinion. Not a real court.
He has not been indicted or tried nor is he the subject of a subpoena. The reporters were.
If he is tried and found guilty he will face the same penalty as anyone else, and he should.
Politics is a vicious dirty game these days, played by tough characters on both sides. He knows the life and the stakes.
My predicition is he will never do a day in jail. [/quote]
He’s not the target of the grand jury–he could be a subject. At the minimum you’d agree hedo, that he should be fired immediately right? Politics is a dirty game, but national security isn’t—pretty big difference, and I’d imagine all in here are ashamed that this admin would play politics with our national security. How is it possible that this guy is still in the same building with the president?
[quote]100meters wrote:
hedo wrote:
Rove is currently being tried in the court of popular opinion. Not a real court.
He has not been indicted or tried nor is he the subject of a subpoena. The reporters were.
If he is tried and found guilty he will face the same penalty as anyone else, and he should.
Politics is a vicious dirty game these days, played by tough characters on both sides. He knows the life and the stakes.
My predicition is he will never do a day in jail.
He’s not the target of the grand jury–he could be a subject. At the minimum you’d agree hedo, that he should be fired immediately right? Politics is a dirty game, but national security isn’t—pretty big difference, and I’d imagine all in here are ashamed that this admin would play politics with our national security. How is it possible that this guy is still in the same building with the president?[/quote]
If he is a witness no, especially if he is innocent. If he is indicted he will most likely resign. An indictment will require evidence. At this point it is conjecture. No evidence has been presented. Do you think he is a danger to the president?
You wouldn’t support convicting an innocent man because of his party affiliation would you?
Of course the lefties want to hang him? He has been slaying you guys at the polls.
If he did as the reporters have suggested, then he is a danger to national security. What part of that doesn’t transcend politics?
Using “politics is a dirty business” as an excuse while the right wing cheerleaders trumpet the Bush administration as refreshing and moral leadership is simply astounding.
We might have to wait awhile, and we may see some whitewash, but this looks pretty damned disgusting…
[quote]vroom wrote:
Do you think he is a danger to the president?
If he did as the reporters have suggested, then he is a danger to national security. What part of that doesn’t transcend politics?
Using “politics is a dirty business” as an excuse while the right wing cheerleaders trumpet the Bush administration as refreshing and moral leadership is simply astounding.
We might have to wait awhile, and we may see some whitewash, but this looks pretty damned disgusting…[/quote]
It’s not an excuse it’s a fact of life. The point is he isn’t being charged or accused by anyone except the media and the Democrats. That’s partisan politics. Waiting until a court actually takes action before causing a man to lose his job is just common sense.
I know the left is salivating over the chance to skewer Rove but he hasn’t even been called in yet. Aren’t you guys always screaming for fairness and justice?
hedo:
For heaven sakes you are missing the point!
Rove was almost single handedly responsible for the two Presidential wins in a row.
He is involved in some thing that looks bad for him…naturally the liberals are screaming for his head.
“Whaaa Fire him” “Jail him” “Do something to him so that he can never hurt us liberals again.”
Hahaha