[quote]cholulalula wrote:
Thanks for the responses-geared lifting is such an enigma to me, it’s interested to hear the replies.[/quote]
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In the back of my mind I keep thinking I will try single ply in a year or two but right now the entire process is a mystery.
I love the idea of you training in your home gym that hubby made for you. Now is the time to hit upper body. The leg strength and muscle mass will come back very soon, as you know.
Really cool to read about the raw/geared thing without the usual gratuitous cursing and posturing. I learned something!
Snap, you’re going to look back on this period of forced upper-body work and be thankful. I’m sure of it.
One exercise I’ve added and really like (but not heard mentioned that often) are the "no-money"s with bands; I really feel the external rotation with this exercise once the mind-muscle connecthingy was established.
Snap! Pretty Purple Panther (your belt) can’t stop talking about you. She’s giving me some wonderful Snap Vibes 
Happy New Years Snap - and a swift and perfect recovery for 2012.
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
My husband set up a mini-gym for me in the house since I can’t get to my regular gyms. [/quote]
That is SO sweet!
Still waiting till I’m well.
I’m supposed to start physical therapy on Monday, but I can’t for the life of me figure out why. Since I’ve got a mid-foot fusion and toe fusion going on, I’m supposed to avoid much movement of my foot at all. I’m strictly non-weight bearing. So what’s the point of PT now? I’d rather have it after the fusions have been determined a success when I need to regain all of my foot mobility. I’ll call the doctor about that today and insist he give me a good reason why I have to go to PT now.
Not being able to drive is very, very difficult for me. I’ve made it to the gym twice since my surgery on December 22. I can’t even begin to imagine how weak I’m going to be when I can truly train again. So frustrating. I don’t want to start over again. Been there. Done that. Multiple times.
And I want to apologize for going around spewing criticism on everyone’s logs. That’s pretty much all I have to contribute right now and am not sure it’s valuable. Just sounds like I’m some elitist bitch.
Quit wallowing in self-pity, you elitist bitch.
j/k understand your frustration. recovery sucks, but you will get stronger very fast once you are back at it. meanwhile train upper body every day. get swole
Maybe PT for general blood flow, inflammation? You know the muscle memory stuff is really true, it won’t take you long to rehab this time either.
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
And I want to apologize for going around spewing criticism on everyone’s logs. That’s pretty much all I have to contribute right now and am not sure it’s valuable. Just sounds like I’m some elitist bitch.[/quote]
Well, you’re not elitist. And besides, in this place, full-on-bitch is not only a good thing it’s a requirement for entry.
You’re allowed to be down, and you’re allowed to be cranky. You’ve given a lot here. I, personally, appreciate what you bring. You are… shall I say it… AWESOME!
Now as Pete said, don’t use this as an excuse to quit everything.
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
And I want to apologize for going around spewing criticism on everyone’s logs. That’s pretty much all I have to contribute right now and am not sure it’s valuable. Just sounds like I’m some elitist bitch.[/quote]
fwiw, we all thought you were an elitist bitch before the recent critique spewing. We have a private forum, much like the t-cell where we discuss such things. You better mind your p’s and q’s.
This muscle memory stuff is really true. The “science” behind this is something along the lines of once you build muscle it’s like laying down a root system (muscle cell nuclei are formed which don’t go away), once you can give the roots water and light (exercise) they’ll sprout again. There’s supposed to be some study somewhere out there. The roots are good for something like 7 or 9 (I forget) years, so you have some wiggle room.
And then there’s Dan John’s article somewhere about how he set new PRs in discus shortly (relatively) after being forced to take six months (you have some wiggle room) off because he got clocked in the head by a discus.
All it takes is mental fortitude, which I heard bitches have in spades.
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
And I want to apologize for going around spewing criticism on everyone’s logs. [/quote]
No need to apologize. I know I’m not the only one here that’s spewed all over you…wait…that came out wrong…
I was thinking what about hitting the ‘good girl/bad girl’ machine for a ton of volume? 10 x 10 or something. That wouldn’t involve your foot would it? and you’d feel like you were having a proper workout, for duration at least.
Building up your adductors and abductors would at least make you feel like you’re working legs and I’m sure having them bigger and stronger would benefit your squat and dead when you get back into it.
The number of nights I’ve cried myself to sleep over your stinging criticism. shakes head
Chin up!
Please forgive my jumping in unasked, but I lurk over on O?s log, and think I can add a unique perspective in that I have taken bench shirts further than most. (Yeah I?m a BOF?)
Best Comp Raw: 235kg (518lbs)@SHW
Best Comp Multiply: 385kg(837lbs) @308
So you can see that it is possible to have more than 60% carryover from one?s gear, as I am getting ~330 lbs on a ~518lbs raw bench. What I don?t think is widely understood is exactly what goes into getting that sort of carryover. To Parrot PeteS: It certainly is not magic.
To start with I have great genetics (tiny little t-rex arms, long torso, robust CNS) for shirted benching.
However in addition to those genetics, I have been training with a shirt for more than 10 years now. Indeed I have dropped out pretty much all raw, full-range work for the last couple of years, because trying to keep the separate elbow paths and shoulder positions distinct under max weights was messing me up. And that means I am in a tight shirt benching heavy pretty much every week of the year.
I have four SDPs, and at least one of them is at Inzer at any given time, being tweaked, and a shift in bodyweight of more than 5lbs (on 300) or so is quite noticeable in fit.
As well technique at extreme points in shirted benching becomes more important. I will frequently just do set-ups in the gym: Over and over to get things exactly right. It?s to the point where if my feet are in the wrong place on a bench, my shoulders not back enough, or I mis-time my tuck, I will, pretty consistently miss the bench. A few years back I had to reign in my psyche up, because getting too hopped up was making me sloppy, and was leading to missed lifts.
Last but not least; an underappreciated part of it is having a great crew around (Big thanks to everyone at the Anvil!!). You MUST have good spotters; people who show up, and you trust will save you, when you inevitably miss weights. When 800+ pounds gets wiggly you need 5 people to gentle it down, and it?s even better when those people can see the miss coming.
All the best with your recovery.
OH FOR GODS SAKE…YOU STOPPED TAKING THE PRIMROSE OIL, didnt you? ---->serious here.
Snap you know you are a fighter, stop messing with your own head.
FB has a point on the good girl bad girls, theres something about that power muscle ~wink~
[quote]W.E.C wrote:
Please forgive my jumping in unasked, but I lurk over on O?s log, and think I can add a unique perspective in that I have taken bench shirts further than most. (Yeah I?m a BOF?)
Best Comp Raw: 235kg (518lbs)@SHW
Best Comp Multiply: 385kg(837lbs) @308
So you can see that it is possible to have more than 60% carryover from one?s gear, as I am getting ~330 lbs on a ~518lbs raw bench. What I don?t think is widely understood is exactly what goes into getting that sort of carryover. To Parrot PeteS: It certainly is not magic.
To start with I have great genetics (tiny little t-rex arms, long torso, robust CNS) for shirted benching.
However in addition to those genetics, I have been training with a shirt for more than 10 years now. Indeed I have dropped out pretty much all raw, full-range work for the last couple of years, because trying to keep the separate elbow paths and shoulder positions distinct under max weights was messing me up. And that means I am in a tight shirt benching heavy pretty much every week of the year.
I have four SDPs, and at least one of them is at Inzer at any given time, being tweaked, and a shift in bodyweight of more than 5lbs (on 300) or so is quite noticeable in fit.
As well technique at extreme points in shirted benching becomes more important. I will frequently just do set-ups in the gym: Over and over to get things exactly right. It?s to the point where if my feet are in the wrong place on a bench, my shoulders not back enough, or I mis-time my tuck, I will, pretty consistently miss the bench. A few years back I had to reign in my psyche up, because getting too hopped up was making me sloppy, and was leading to missed lifts.
Last but not least; an underappreciated part of it is having a great crew around (Big thanks to everyone at the Anvil!!). You MUST have good spotters; people who show up, and you trust will save you, when you inevitably miss weights. When 800+ pounds gets wiggly you need 5 people to gentle it down, and it?s even better when those people can see the miss coming.
All the best with your recovery.
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W.E.C. that was very well put. Obviously you know how tragic my bench is but even at my weights, I worry about things like the fact that they are looking for volunteers to spot and load at my upcoming meet. The thought of having an inexperienced person do a lift off on bench makes me nervous.
I don’t suppose any of the Anvil people will be in Ottawa will they?
sorry for the hijack Snap but this guy knows his bench stuff.
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
sorry for the hijack Snap but this guy knows his bench stuff.
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No apology necessary. Although you should apologize for talking about how “tragic” your bench is in my log. And W.E.K.'s knowledge is obvious. Although I do have a question: You actually send your shirts back to have them tailored for a little weight gain here and there? Most benchers I know have an arsenal of shirts (many that are custom) that accommodate such nuances in physique changes. Alterations are expensive and take time. And those of you who bench weights in that range don’t normally get tremendous longevity out of a shirt, I wouldn’t think, especially if training geared all/most of the time.
I know that everything everybody’s saying about my situation/recovery is true. I’m just in a period of frustration. This, too, shall pass.
Snap anything you have to say is always said in a good productive way and not meant to be anything but helpful–I think at least. You just want to help and your knowledge is valuable stuff you are generous to share it!
Snap out of it dammit!
serial- its ok to be all crabby when you rehabbing.
active people are the worst patients
I mentioned training - while in college with a boot on my ankle
what I did and Im not advising you do it-
even though I think you might actually think about it
is lots and lots of snatches
with the ‘bad’ foot’s knee resting on other blocks
I did them from the floor
from the hip
lot of cleans too
RDL too.
and yes I did HLR , and pull ups too.
they sucked it was like a 25lb plate hanging off my foot
but shhhhhhhh
dont do it.