Is Voting Welfare?

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

Rainjack makes a good point too. I go back and forth on the electoral college as a concept, but think I’d prefer a straight up vote. I don’t like the tendency for the liberal corners of the country in our case to force their “progress” on the rest of us.

Of course some will argue that the major population centers should carry that influence and maybe so, but I don’t like it.
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I had thought it was the opposite, that the Electoral College was intended to and continues to protect the interests of the smaller states.

On a direct, grand-total-national vote, racking up huge vote totals in the big states would render votes in the smaller states fairly meaningless.

With the Electoral College, candidates can afford to neglect none of the states, no matter how small, that they have any chance in at all.

And they have no need to bend over utterly backwards to an extreme end of the spectrum for purposes of racking up giant vote totals in states already ideologically aligned with them -

  • the Electoral College causes a candidate’s chances to be better if he is acceptable to most states rather than just getting giant percentages in a few large states.

Should a candidate win who loses the great majority of the states by a 35/65 margin, but wins a few big states by 80/20 or whatever?

Under a direct-vote / national-grand-total system, such a candidate would win the Presidency. Under the Electoral College system, they would not.

And what happens if the election comes out extremely close and it’s not just one state that has to be recounted, but the entire country?

That would make the let’s-keep-changing-the-method-of-counting-till-Gore-wins-and-then-and-only-then-stop / nope-enough-is-enough-he-lost-by-the-rules-in-3-straight-counts Florida mess of 2000 seem like the smoothest of sailing.

[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
<<< the Electoral College causes a candidate’s chances to be better if he is acceptable to most states rather than just getting giant percentages in a few large states.

Should a candidate win who loses the great majority of the states by a 35/65 margin, but wins a few big states by 80/20 or whatever? >>>[/quote]

That’s the good point in favor of the EC and like I say, I’m not beyond changing my mind again as I never really settled that personally in a concrete way. I just get tired of hearing nobody who fails to carry these and those states ever wins.

[quote]Gael wrote:
You didn’t do anything to earn your vote. Why should you get something for free?[/quote]

Your hilarious.

Take economics, or please, get the fuck out of here. Now. You know what, take Economics AND US Governmental Philosophy. The you can come back and realize how retarded you sound.

The equivalent you will understand:

Global warming is so important we should ban coffee right? Coffee is hot, so it should be banned. Hot water too. Makes sense right?