Is This the End of Roe v. Wade?

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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Oh @zecarlo, I have an informed opinion [the definition of "judgement -
judgment is the process of forming an opinion or evaluation by discerning and comparing.” That’s from merriam-webster], and that means my positions can change, when I am given evidence contrary to a position I hold. If a single person were to ever prove the unborn are NOT [prove just one single characteristic is wrong] whole, complete, living, human beings, from the earliest moments of conception, I will defend their slaughter with more effort than you perceive my defense of the position of LIFE. Until that happens, I will remain on the side of science, logic and reason.

Something I have a right to, and one that you share too, we each have an opinion. However, abortion is a wrong choice, simply because an innocent life is intended to be slaughtered; there are various ways like being literally torn limb by limb, starved to death, and some are still boiled alive in a bath a saline. Very often mothers still lose their lives in States were the procedures are still legal, despite the claim that “abortion should be safe, legal and rare.” Guess thirty-three percent success rate should be a valid claim for any surgical procedure. The only exception to me, is when the life of the mother is in extreme danger. In the example of a mother’s life, my wife said she would lay her life down in that circumstance, because she has had many experiences in this life and she would rather give those same opportunities and experiences to her child.

And please show were I have only opinions. I’ll quietly wait over here.

Yeah, because Christ was treated as a King on earth, yet a week later they hung Him on a Cross. Want to bet how many of people in Jerusalem thought He was still a King, or did everyone, except a small few, did they all scream for His Crucifixion, even while they watched it happen? Only three souls stood at the foot of the Cross.

The same kind of thing that I said above ^^ to @RT_Nomad. If you want me to defend my Faith, find that Catholic thread that I started years ago, and I’ll do my best. But, I am nothing more than a faithful, lay Catholic.

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Comparing yourself to Christ now? You’re a special kind of weirdo.

I would say you are less.

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Is Moses still included in that group? You very well might be right. May I please have the source numbers too? The thing is rather thick. And I would rather read the passage, so I can interpret the words myself. Saying things contrary to my understanding of the Catholic Church, I am blessed to have a brain where I can still learn and understand, but I need to see the words for myself.

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You claim that I fail as a Christian because when I leave this world, I want a list of people who think of me as an enemy. Therefore, I talked about Christ having a huge area of a city who loved and thought of Jesus Christ as a King. Then a week later, they hung Him on a Cross. If I can be anything like Christ, it would be a blessing to have a group of people who despise me and want to kill me. Personally, I’m fine if you think “[I’m] a special kind of weirdo.” In fact, I appreciate the compliment.

We all know what opinions are like, you just don’t want to admit you cannot defend abortion, so you try to attack me. Honestly, I don’t care what your opinions are of me. You are so easily ignored and from this point forward, if you cannot justify the slaughter of an unborn child, I will stop replying to your posts simply because they are insults. Throwing words at each other on the internet is getting so old, it’s actually quite boring.

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If your “out” is a phrase by Ignatius of Antioch, I suppose, at best, you are saying that all the Old Testament saints that were in paradise (not limbo, their final destination was never in question) in the heart of the earth, must also be Catholics.

I myself, find the word Catholic no where in my Bible, nor do I see the name Ignatius. If you wish to fairly communicate with me try finding a Bible quote instead of referencing descriptive nouns and people not mentioned in the Bible.

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According to Catholicism, Jesus Himself took Mary to heaven after she died. I don’t think she was Catholic.

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Neither was the thief on the cross,

The catholic religion and it’s non-biblical followers are gonna be in for a big surprise during the time of judgement

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The Catholic Church holds the position that non Catholics are not prohibited from entering Heaven. Kneedragger just makes up his own rules.

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He should also quote scripture to defend himself and thats hard to do if its not in scripture

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Though he wasn’t a Church authority nor a theologian by trade, Dante had some interesting thoughts in his Paradiso regarding Christians and pagans and entry into the afterlife. Interestingly, Dante had more Jews than Christians in Paradise and more Christians than Jews in Hell.

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Based on past and current situations…he may be correct.

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Before Jesus Christ came to earth, only the Chosen People, the Jews, could be saved. But those saved people aren’t in perfect communion with Rome. The Jewish faith and the Catholic faith a quite different.

But you know what, this a pro-LIFE thread and lets stay on topic, I was the one who probably jumped the tracks?

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Still waiting for those source number/s.

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You do realize you are talking to yourself?

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There are many words that are not in the Bible, yet we can still know what is right or wrong. But GOD gave us all an informed conscience and a mind that can make choices to determine what’s correct, or wrong. Just like we must make the choice to follow the laws of GOD, or we can turn away from His graces.

Catholic means universal, and church is a building where GOD is particularly present. We are told to give just one hour, once a week (a few other Holy Days of Obligation) and practice the Sacraments. Even though it sounds simple, it’s easy to mess up. But GOD did give us the sacrament of Reconciliation, and that’s so very easy.

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There is a celebration of Mary going to Heaven, it’s called the Assumption. Jesus didn’t “take Mary to Heaven.” When she was living with John in Ephesus, she went to bed one night and the next day, she couldn’t be found.

The Church celebrates the Feast of the Assumption because of the special graces she had, GOD didn’t let her experience human death. When we all die, our souls leave our bodies and it’s supposed to be so painful, simply because our nature is body and soul combined. Our souls cannot remain in a dead body.

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Sorry zecarlo, you are trying to just be an annoying little scratch that I can’t seem to satisfy. Cool thing about these forums, I block a name and I never again have to see your posts. It’s just like that kid from New Zeland, maliky, or whatever, you guys both just want attention, like a spoiled ten year old who cries when he throws tantrums. I write responses to you, and all you ever do is throw insults and say garbage. You literally bring nothing to the table. The saddest part, aren’t you a teacher of some kids in a troubled neighborhood or something? I don’t really remember. But if you do teach anyone, they truly should get their money back, you can’t even be civilized on a message board. Man, I’m sorry, but I tired to trying to help, that’s all I’m doing.

Be well and GOD Bless

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Where is this written in scripture about Mary?

her death or her rapture?

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You know that it isn’t written in the scriptures. But there is a scripture passage that describes how the Catholic church treated the word of God centuries ago when they kept the Bible locked up, and how they demand the people follow the teaching of their leaders and not just the word of God.

Isaiah 29:10, “For the Lord hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.
11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:
12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.”

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The word “saved” has quite a few implications. But does the catholic church teach that all of creation before the resurrection of Christ, with the exception of some Jews, were sent to burn in hell (or Purgatory forever, unless someone prays them out of Purgatory?) Sorry if my Catholic dogma is inaccurate.

John 1:9, “That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.”

God judges everyone based on how he responds to the Light that was given him. That Light started with Adam. And “every man” is every man. Jesus spoke the world into existence, and was lightening “every man that cometh into the world.”