Is This the End of Roe v. Wade?

There is a wild one about men fighting and one of the wife’s grabbing one of the dude’s penis. If that happens you have to cut her hand off. That must have happened, because there is no way they could have predicted needing that rule.

There is a law should such an event happen (Deut 25:11-12 for those who wish to look it up). Not only that, the last half of verse 12 says, “…thine eye shall not pity her.”

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I know, that’s another one.
“Sorry, sir, we do not allow dickless men inside this club”.
Lol.

-“But I’m a woman!”
-“Bruce, I see everything. I watched you win the decathlon in '74. Don’t try to bullshit me, Bruce. You’re a dickless dude, and that’s that.”

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Sex is between two, sometimes more, people who consent. Murder is a non consensual act. Your analogy might have made sense if you didn’t compare a legal act to an illegal one.

Or is it a set of laws?

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A girl under a certain age cannot legally consent to sex yet she is somehow bound by an implicit contract? And who enforces this contract? If it’s the justice system then it is not an implicit contract, whatever that even means, but simply a legal issue.

I would have thought the zygote is the other party involved in the contract. This implicit contract is between the mother and who, if it isn’t the zygote?

I’m not comparing sex to anything. I’m comparing murdering a baby before birth and murdering someone after birth.

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I have a serious question, and I’m saying this because otherwise it might be taken as sarcastic. It’s a question of opinion that might seem odd.

Of the pro-abortionist men out there, how many do you estimate:

  1. Actually cares about women’s well-being (that is, if access to abortion lends to their well-being)?
    Or 2) Want easy access to accountability-free box (so-called “free sex”)?

And just to express a random thought (if anyone even cares what I say), I usually try to see the big picture in things and not only think in personal terms, emotions, preferences, or desires. For example, when thinking over Clarence Thomas’s deal on contraception, I initially thought, “what kind of impact would that have on us all?” But then I pondered over things in the manner of an individualist and asked, “Would I truly be bothered if contraception became near impossible to access?” Then I answered myself, “If that was the case, coupled with a reduction of welfare for unwed or never-married single mothers, no, I wouldn’t. Why should someone? Why are men so scared of this thought?”

It functions as a contract between the government and the people. It should not be confused with a law which is the responsibility of the government to create. The constitution can be updated, but it is updated as a contract, where both parties (the government and the people) have to sign off on changes. If it were just a list of federal laws, congress would be able to update it independently. You could think of it as a meta-law, a law governing laws, if you wanted but I think that’s just more confusing.

It is really a document that outlines and limits federal power using a grouping of laws that create a set of expectations for how a government will function… Basically a fundamental legal-political rulebook.

*government and the States, originally

About 95%, with my corrections
*some
**any sex they can get

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I have two things I can look to, to try to answer these questions, and I won’t be considering my personal thoughts on abortion.

  1. Men are more likely to be pro life, and less likely to be pro choice, than women, in general. I think there are several things that COULD explain this, but you can draw your own conclusions. I would imagine anyone reading this stat already has their mind up as to why this is.

  2. Men are FAR more likely to support ‘abortion only under certain circumstances’ than ‘under any circumstance’. Around 30% say under any circumstances, a clear minority. I would expect a significant portion of this 30%, but not the majority of it, to have relatively altruistic motivation for the position. So I would bump that 30% number down to 20-25%. That ends up representing the ‘i want free sex’ crowd to me, approximately.

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Thanks for the detailed response.


Man Jokes About Going To Pro-Choice Protests To Pick up Women (dailydot.com)
Side note: I can’t tell if that’s 1) actually his face, 2) a filter, or 3) he just had his wisdom teeth removed.

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So as a side note to this conversation, any ‘bro’ who wants accountability free sex can also just get a vasectomy… It’s a hell of a lot easier/healthier than abortions. And it’s technically reversible, if a man eventually decides he wants to procreate. It’s what I did after my son was born. My wife responded very poorly to birth control medication, and we decided that we only wanted one kid. So, I got one shortly after he was born. I would THINK that I’m not the only dude who sees this as a viable/preferable option. And it’s another component of why I think this mentality as a reason to be pro choice is overblown.

I’m snipped.

holy fuck that was funny!

I mean, yes, technically but…
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You aren’t, although I’d just as quickly jump on un-needed high-dose TRT before letting someone use a knife around my dangly bits.

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I really don’t think any of that is correct.