Ah right.
I could believe its up to 5% of gym goers.
No way its 10% of the total population!
Are you UK based?
One of the things I’ve noticed over here at the minute is just how many (not even overweight), guys who are growing tits! Like full on gyno on guys who are very clearly no where near a set of weights or any injectable.
I’m convinced its something in the food chain or water course!
Someone claimed I was using a logical fallacy when I said anastrozole was a poison, I called him on it, and I have to work on my self esteem?
Your anger issues necessitate a trt protocol change for you.
Nope. In Minnesota.
Perhaps. My gut feeling is that a lot of it has to do with obesity over here. I think there is something to the plastics leaching, and estrogens in food and water too. Just seems like we have gotten really fat and by observation it is recently.
I started school in 1993. We didn’t have a fat kid (at least not by today’s standards). Now, I see these kids out waiting for the bus, and half of them seem fat (maybe it is a bit lower than that). I do think that these kids are going to on average have more health issues. Many probably will have low testosterone.
Yeah- I’m with you on that.
I’m also seeing lots.of healthy weight normal guys walking around with B cups.
Could well be plastics!
I’ve seen this just a bit. Nothing were I would think what is with all the man tits. I have seen it on skinny guys. Looks really weird.
Hey man out of curiosity are you still doing 10mg T daily for your TRT???
Not at the moment, experimenting with different compounds. Primo, NPP, EQ etc.
Its funny how all these steroids give me awesome fucking libido, but as soon as I increase testosterone to even 100mg a week? = Libido GONE. Same with dbol, libido GONE.
So much for the “the more estrogen the better libido” bullshit going on here.
NO, Libido is about androgens, PERIOD. Given the fact that u have SUFFICENT estrogen.
5mg testosterone a day + 15mg primo a day = rapist level libido for me.
lmao, but would you say thats your set TRT protocol from here on out? I am trying to find long term solutions, as I have to use AI as well on decent TRT doses but always hard for me to dial in, I respond to them too well. I am with you man, I get so sick at the dudes who just jumped on the TRT a few months ago, binge watched that TRT and Hormones Optimization channel and now want to lecture me after I have already done my research and self experimentation with different doses and frequencies, which includes putting so much damn time in it got to the point I would start getting deep pulsations in my damn head unless I did something about my E2.
I am also starting to believe some of us are over responders to the levels them selves, and that “over responding” to the dose isn’t as important. Maybe we are really sensitive to E2 and T itself and don’t need these crazy levels some of these guys are pushing in order to feel great, or even look great for that matter… I mean look at Danny Bossa himself with his over 1500 TT, not someone I strive to look like or act like LOL.
Well, start with a very small dose like 5mg every day (im not joking), try it for 4 weeks, good, no? Up it to 8, then 10, then 12 etc. Eventually you will (hopefully) find a dose that works.
If that shit dont work, then I would suggest you do your own TRT protocol of a very small dose of testosterone (for the estrogen) and then add primo or EQ to it.
People like you and I just cannot handle much e2 at all - yet still we need the androgens and obviously the anabolism, so we have to manipulate this shit with our own home cooked protocol.
Really? Primo crushes my libido. It was MASTERON wherein if I tried a protocal such as the one you’ve outlined my libiido would be sent into overdrive. It was about the only thing I’ve ever taken that was enough to overcome the sexual side effects of the antidepressant meds I take.
Have you checked lipids on this stuff? DHT derivatives tend to crush HDL, even 100mg mast/wk = 30% drop in HDL + 5-10% increase in LDL for me.
Any notable changes in body composition? I notice on the DHT’s I drop water weight, face looks more angular, BF% drops slightly without altering training/diet. The cosmetic effects are fleeting, though the muscle mass gained whilst on them appears to be permanent.
Actually if you look at some of his progress pics he looks very good for a male in his 50’s… most 20y/olds in their prime will never look like he does.
I don’t agree with his philosophy regarding TRT or the way he debates with (shuts down) others, but it works for him. Though in his videos he’s admitted to trying mast, nandrolone etc. I’m sure the nandrolone in particular probably played a contributing effect… it doesn’t take much nand to create an environment HIGHLY conducive for anabolism (only around 100mg/wk) that and consistent supra T levels, not to discredit his hard work though. His gym etiquette and dietary protocols are on point.
@anon18050987 did you ever try nandrolone? What did you think of it? For whatever reason it always had me feeling slightly short of breath, also skyrocketed my autonomic dysfunction into astronomical planes.
Perhaps my nandrolone had a lil bit of tren in it? Seems unlikely but I looked REALLY full and defined (cosmetic effect) on 100mg/wk. I only bring this up as HPLC testing conducted by others found the lab I brought from at the time frequently dosed various compounds with hormones that weren’t on the label. Probably not though, I’ve tried it twice in my life (both times for short durations), both times it had me feeling slightly short of breath at all times. The cognitive dysfunction elicited from progestognenic androgens like nandrolone is no joke either
Why EQ?
Also, these synthetic derivatives tend to hammer cholesterol. Get lipids checked, you might have to go on a statin or something to keep them in line (often HDL can’t be kept in line but HDL/LDL ratio can be)
Oh dude I forgot something else. You ever actually tried going less frequent? Something like E5D or once a week? Through out my time I had better luck with less frequent injections not sure if it was due to DHT or maybe having the troughs settle me down. To be fair though I never really decreased my dose extremely low when going ED/EOD.
How long before you felt these go back to normal after stopping?
Long time since I did it, however, when u say it, yes, in the very beginning of using testosterone, I remember I did 175mg every 5d, with 0.5 of arimidex, that gave me pretty good libido, actually.
Well, it all went to shit once i decided to drop AI, my libido was just shit without AI, almost always, but on VERY small dosages of test.
EQ makes skin look fucking awesome, a “natural tan”, it gives great shape to the muscles and your vascularity shoots thru the roof. Builds as much muscle as test, but without the annoying estrogen side effects.
Interesting, I havent tried mast, but proviron really fucked my libido unfortunately. Primo tho is VERY good for my libido.
Primo is super mild on lipids for me, even on 400mg actually. Primo seems to be waaay milder than mast - but with better muscle building obviously.
What Ive noticed with primo: Way more difficult for my body to put on fat, its very weird, I can increase my calories alot yet still dont put on more fat, this is the only steroid ive noticed that with. Face looks very good with it. Even if i use a high dose testosterone cycle (750mg test), adding 400mg of primo makes my face hold very little water.