Is Pacquaio on Steroids?

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
My own route to ‘increased greatness despite advancing age’, lol, would be (and has been) GHRP6.

Undetectable, benign, cheap.

I suspect pacquiao might have been using either GH (due to lack of awareness over the existance of G6) or G6 or some other GH secretagogue.

Given that his weight has remained constant, yet apparent strength and endurance has gone up, this would be my take. However, the mental toughness is more likely to come from age and experience, than from AAS.

BBB[/quote]

Interesting. I know you know about the fight game BBB- you think that this shit could make a guy’s chin any better? I mean, I don’t think so, but I’m curious as to whether the ability to take a shot could be influenced by this.[/quote]

AAS do tend to reduce the ‘fight or flight’ response, namely the adrenaline and cortisol release. This could work 2 ways in a fight, since adrenaline tires you out quickly, can make you shaky. Conversely, cortisol is needed to keep going - to a certain extent.

In other words, AAS modulate the bodys’ response to adrenaline. Read into that what you will - you have experienced the effects of adrenaline when in a fight, I’m sure.

However Gh doesn’t work this way and couldn’t (in my mind) really affect a boxers chin.

BBB[/quote]

I remember Fernando Vargas being caught with drugs in his system (winstrol) for his post-fight drug test after having fought De La Hoya.

He started off very strong/active, but faded late in the fight.

As for whether Pacquiao does roids or growth, I go by the assumption that the majority of professional athletes in physically taxing sports do roids or growth. As such, I’d be surprised if someone doesn’t do the stuff.

On a side note, I recall Yodsanklai Fairtex, a top level muay thai fighter from Thailand, getting caught with growth hormone. It’s the only time I remember hearing about an athlete getting caught with growth. I don’t remember if it was some sort of drug test or if he simply got caught with “possession.”

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LAS VEGAS has the strictest testing there is…he has never failed,unless your a fighter ,most dont realise once you stop ‘dieting’ which he if anything over eats,you go to your normal weight,I talked to Freddie roach,and he said Manny will never drop down below welterweight 147lbs* he has to eat 6-8x’s a day just to weigh 144 now…and thus = strength…

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[quote]fightu35 wrote:
LAS VEGAS has the strictest testing there is…he has never failed,unless your a fighter ,most dont realise once you stop ‘dieting’ which he if anything over eats,you go to your normal weight,I talked to Freddie roach,and he said Manny will never drop down below welterweight 147lbs* he has to eat 6-8x’s a day just to weigh 144 now…and thus = strength…[/quote]

Tests only work for detectable drugs. The quality of the testing is somewhat irrelevant when it comes to athletes with millions of dollars to burn.

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[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]fightu35 wrote:
LAS VEGAS has the strictest testing there is…he has never failed,unless your a fighter ,most dont realise once you stop ‘dieting’ which he if anything over eats,you go to your normal weight,I talked to Freddie roach,and he said Manny will never drop down below welterweight 147lbs* he has to eat 6-8x’s a day just to weigh 144 now…and thus = strength…[/quote]

Tests only work for detectable drugs. The quality of the testing is somewhat irrelevant when it comes to athletes with millions of dollars to burn. [/quote]

good point but they they even test for HGH now,this is only LV who is this strict,but if you compare the guys who get caught in boxing to any other sports is very low,and 20-1 vs MMA,
your smart enough to know roids will help you train,but never help you ‘fight’ ask fernando vargas… and wont help your chin,how much you lift will not help hit you punch harder,thats why roids are not ‘that’ big in boxing,most fighters fight 4-7 times a year,and most good drugs stay in system to long,the last few guys to get caught are Camacho jr…and 3 guys from other countries,all took lasix…last guys to get caught,are James Toney ‘deca’ vargas winny
Mosely EPO & the clear …franswa botha…

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HGH can only be tested for thru blood tests…Manny refuses to fight mayweather cause he won’t agree to blood tests…makes one wonder don’t it

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[quote]iksrtfo28 wrote:
HGH can only be tested for thru blood tests…Manny refuses to fight mayweather cause he won’t agree to blood tests…makes one wonder don’t it[/quote]

He refused to do a blood test that can be given at ANY time before the fight. Meaning the night before or in the middle of the night at any point, etc. aka Olympic testing methods

Pacquiao never refused to do a blood test in general.

More research, less reliance on the media plz

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he agreed to blood tests only as close to 10 days before fight…