[quote]zenontheterrible wrote:
ok so… Russia had peace keepers in south osseta…
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Which is part of Georgia
In response to South Ossetia shooting into Georgia. Why weren’t the Russians stopping the South Ossetians? They are supposed to be peacekeepers.
Invasion of Georgia certainly is.
[quote]
i must be confused.
personally i hope if someone killed a bunch of US peace keepers and civilians we’d respond with MORE aggression.[/quote]
You have been buying to the Russian propaganda.
[quote]zenontheterrible wrote:
personally i hope if someone killed a bunch of US peace keepers and civilians we’d respond with MORE aggression.[/quote]
Not neccessarily. When have we done so?
edit- in Lebanon?, Somalia?
Zap is right about Russian propaganda. The KGB anti-US disinformation campaign of the late 80’s worked exceptionally well.
Too bad.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
orion wrote:
flyboy51v wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
tg2hbk4488 wrote:
The idea of everyone should be equal is all nice and sweet and would be fair…but not realistic. Chad being equal with China…please.
China is more important. The only suggestion I would be evening willing to consider would be 1) Remove Franc off permanent seat in security council. They have no historic merit for being there, unless being rescued by from invading forces in both world wars is a requirment for that seat.
Your knowledge of both history and “world issues” is pretty poor. France bled itself white (ever heard of Verdun?) in the First World War, and then taught the U.S. Army how to fight modern industrial war (whether those were the best lessons is another issue).
And today France fights a handful of little African brush wars that no one ever reads about while being second only to the U.S. as an expeditionary military power, believe it or not.
I’m sorry … I’m gonna have to throw the giant BS penalty flag on this one. France taught the US how to fight modern industrial war??? France’s attempt at modern industrial war started and stopped (horribly) with the maginot line.
Maybe you mean by getting themselves totally wiped out by the Germans who went around their defenses they demonstrated exactly how NOT to wage modern industrial warfare?
The US certainly learned that lesson … as well as a few others. Most notably how NOT to appease dictators … and how NOT to collaborate with nazis.
And we’re still learning things from France even today. Like how NOT to morally posture at the UN to prevent effective action, while at the same time raping the Oil for Food program to get billions for yourself while arming a genocidal dictator.
In fact, the US has learned many things from France but not the kind of things you’re thinking of.
(And I think the British might have thing or two to say about who is second to the US as an expeditionary military power.)
Yup, you learned modern warfare from the French.
Deal with it.
Plus, American military instructors readily admit this so your outrage is highly amusing.
WW1 trench warfare is hardly modern warfare.[/quote]
Then you learned modern warfare from the Germans and post-modern warfare from the Iraqis.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
orion wrote:
… post after pointless post about me.
That’s no coincidence, Mr. Narcissism.[/quote]
He wants me to father his children?
But even if that were possible, I want my children to be smart!
[quote]Chushin wrote:
orion wrote:
Chushin wrote:
orion wrote:
Chushin wrote:
orion wrote:
That I have never set foot on US soil is pure speculation on your part.
Not entirely.
I asked you point blank if you’d ever been to the US, and you didn’t have the balls (integrity?) to answer. Need I find that thread for you?
It’s not speculation so much as a judgement based on the info you provided – or DIDN’T provide, more accurately.
Want another chance? Have you been to the US, or is all your “knowledge” from Professor Internet? If you have been there, for how long, and when?
The basic question stands: Do you have any practical experience living in the US, or are you just a keyboard know-it-all?
Tsk, tsk, tsk,…
You go from “having set foot on US soil”, which I undoubtedly have, if only because I lived 300 meters from the US embassy before they turned it into a ridiculous fortress, to having visited the US to “having experience living in the US”?
What is next, do I need to have a wife and children in the US?
Not that my original reply to that does not still stand.
So you have lived in the US.
That means you know 0,0000000001% or so of its territory by personal experience and the rest you know from the media.
Coward.
Idiot.
Debil.[/quote]
That would have been clever had you known that “debil” means “retarded” in German.
[quote]Nich wrote:
orion wrote:
What do you think Russia is? The Navajo?
this means what exactly?
[/quote]
That the US may be used to breaking promises over and over again, but in the case of Russia that has consequences.
[quote]orion wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
orion wrote:
flyboy51v wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
tg2hbk4488 wrote:
The idea of everyone should be equal is all nice and sweet and would be fair…but not realistic. Chad being equal with China…please.
China is more important. The only suggestion I would be evening willing to consider would be 1) Remove Franc off permanent seat in security council. They have no historic merit for being there, unless being rescued by from invading forces in both world wars is a requirment for that seat.
Your knowledge of both history and “world issues” is pretty poor. France bled itself white (ever heard of Verdun?) in the First World War, and then taught the U.S. Army how to fight modern industrial war (whether those were the best lessons is another issue).
And today France fights a handful of little African brush wars that no one ever reads about while being second only to the U.S. as an expeditionary military power, believe it or not.
I’m sorry … I’m gonna have to throw the giant BS penalty flag on this one. France taught the US how to fight modern industrial war??? France’s attempt at modern industrial war started and stopped (horribly) with the maginot line.
Maybe you mean by getting themselves totally wiped out by the Germans who went around their defenses they demonstrated exactly how NOT to wage modern industrial warfare?
The US certainly learned that lesson … as well as a few others. Most notably how NOT to appease dictators … and how NOT to collaborate with nazis.
And we’re still learning things from France even today. Like how NOT to morally posture at the UN to prevent effective action, while at the same time raping the Oil for Food program to get billions for yourself while arming a genocidal dictator.
In fact, the US has learned many things from France but not the kind of things you’re thinking of.
(And I think the British might have thing or two to say about who is second to the US as an expeditionary military power.)
Yup, you learned modern warfare from the French.
Deal with it.
Plus, American military instructors readily admit this so your outrage is highly amusing.
WW1 trench warfare is hardly modern warfare.
Then you learned modern warfare from the Germans and post-modern warfare from the Iraqis.
[/quote]
Not bad. But the problem is that we learned modern warfare from the French and not the Germans.
[quote]orion wrote:
Nich wrote:
orion wrote:
What do you think Russia is? The Navajo?
this means what exactly?
That the US may be used to breaking promises over and over again, but in the case of Russia that has consequences.
[/quote]
what does the Dine (navajo) have to do with that statment?
ok let me ask you this,
if you would have used any other race,lets say,the asains,mexicians,irish
any of the other many many people that the us made promises to and then broke or persecuted over the years,would it be any more offensive?
how about if you said russia arent N****rs would that have been any more or less offensive?
or is it maybe you knew that there was a few of each of these races on this board,but you knew that there was no navajos so you are safe and able to say something like that?
shows your ignorance
the navajo was one of the many many tribes of people that was involved in that “witch hunt” this is true
however the navajo was able to keep there holy lands and one of the very very few that has not lost there traditions and beleifs to the europeans
they have their own government something that is also unique to native americans they are working on expanding that government and becoming toataly free from the us government,as it stands they are semi-autonomous and very little in us aide goes to these people.
you are very ignorant and you made a general statment about something you know nill about.
just another example of you need to just shut up and stop spewing media bullshit.we already have the media here thanks
[quote]Chushin wrote:
orion wrote:
I want my children to be smart!
Yes, I’m sure you want more for your kids than you’re capable of yourself.[/quote]
See, that makes it even more unlikely that I can fulfill his wishes .
Hence his frustration.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
orion wrote:
Debil.
That would have been clever had you known that “debil” means “retarded” in German.
It wouldn’t have been possible at all if you could spell beyond the level of someone who is retarded, chieokure-kun.
[/quote]
That was a joke you dolt.
About George Bush and his axis of ebil.
I thought that if someone thinks like a 3 year old he should also talk like one.
You are official the only one not to get this or at least to get that I did it on purpose…
And you think I am stupid?
Damn, you are depressing.
[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
orion wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
orion wrote:
flyboy51v wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
tg2hbk4488 wrote:
The idea of everyone should be equal is all nice and sweet and would be fair…but not realistic. Chad being equal with China…please.
China is more important. The only suggestion I would be evening willing to consider would be 1) Remove Franc off permanent seat in security council. They have no historic merit for being there, unless being rescued by from invading forces in both world wars is a requirment for that seat.
Your knowledge of both history and “world issues” is pretty poor. France bled itself white (ever heard of Verdun?) in the First World War, and then taught the U.S. Army how to fight modern industrial war (whether those were the best lessons is another issue).
And today France fights a handful of little African brush wars that no one ever reads about while being second only to the U.S. as an expeditionary military power, believe it or not.
I’m sorry … I’m gonna have to throw the giant BS penalty flag on this one. France taught the US how to fight modern industrial war??? France’s attempt at modern industrial war started and stopped (horribly) with the maginot line.
Maybe you mean by getting themselves totally wiped out by the Germans who went around their defenses they demonstrated exactly how NOT to wage modern industrial warfare?
The US certainly learned that lesson … as well as a few others. Most notably how NOT to appease dictators … and how NOT to collaborate with nazis.
And we’re still learning things from France even today. Like how NOT to morally posture at the UN to prevent effective action, while at the same time raping the Oil for Food program to get billions for yourself while arming a genocidal dictator.
In fact, the US has learned many things from France but not the kind of things you’re thinking of.
(And I think the British might have thing or two to say about who is second to the US as an expeditionary military power.)
Yup, you learned modern warfare from the French.
Deal with it.
Plus, American military instructors readily admit this so your outrage is highly amusing.
WW1 trench warfare is hardly modern warfare.
Then you learned modern warfare from the Germans and post-modern warfare from the Iraqis.
Not bad. But the problem is that we learned modern warfare from the French and not the Germans.[/quote]
That depends what you call “Modern warfare”. The combined effort of tanks, airforce and infantry, aka “Blitzkrieg” was undoubtedly German.
[quote]Nich wrote:
orion wrote:
Nich wrote:
orion wrote:
What do you think Russia is? The Navajo?
this means what exactly?
That the US may be used to breaking promises over and over again, but in the case of Russia that has consequences.
what does the Dine (navajo) have to do with that statment?
ok let me ask you this,
if you would have used any other race,lets say,the asains,mexicians,irish
any of the other many many people that the us made promises to and then broke or persecuted over the years,would it be any more offensive?
how about if you said russia arent N****rs would that have been any more or less offensive?
or is it maybe you knew that there was a few of each of these races on this board,but you knew that there was no navajos so you are safe and able to say something like that?
shows your ignorance
the navajo was one of the many many tribes of people that was involved in that “witch hunt” this is true
however the navajo was able to keep there holy lands and one of the very very few that has not lost there traditions and beleifs to the europeans
they have their own government something that is also unique to native americans they are working on expanding that government and becoming toataly free from the us government,as it stands they are semi-autonomous and very little in us aide goes to these people.
you are very ignorant and you made a general statment about something you know nill about.
just another example of you need to just shut up and stop spewing media bullshit.we already have the media here thanks
[/quote]
Oh Jesus, I just picked one Indian tribe whose name had a nice ring to it.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
orion wrote:
Chushin wrote:
orion wrote:
Debil.
That would have been clever had you known that “debil” means “retarded” in German.
It wouldn’t have been possible at all if you could spell beyond the level of someone who is retarded, chieokure-kun.
That was a joke you dolt.
So you claim.
[/quote]
Yeah, Firefox´s spell checker for some reason accepts “ebil”.
[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
orion wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
orion wrote:
flyboy51v wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
tg2hbk4488 wrote:
The idea of everyone should be equal is all nice and sweet and would be fair…but not realistic. Chad being equal with China…please.
China is more important. The only suggestion I would be evening willing to consider would be 1) Remove Franc off permanent seat in security council. They have no historic merit for being there, unless being rescued by from invading forces in both world wars is a requirment for that seat.
Your knowledge of both history and “world issues” is pretty poor. France bled itself white (ever heard of Verdun?) in the First World War, and then taught the U.S. Army how to fight modern industrial war (whether those were the best lessons is another issue).
And today France fights a handful of little African brush wars that no one ever reads about while being second only to the U.S. as an expeditionary military power, believe it or not.
I’m sorry … I’m gonna have to throw the giant BS penalty flag on this one. France taught the US how to fight modern industrial war??? France’s attempt at modern industrial war started and stopped (horribly) with the maginot line.
Maybe you mean by getting themselves totally wiped out by the Germans who went around their defenses they demonstrated exactly how NOT to wage modern industrial warfare?
The US certainly learned that lesson … as well as a few others. Most notably how NOT to appease dictators … and how NOT to collaborate with nazis.
And we’re still learning things from France even today. Like how NOT to morally posture at the UN to prevent effective action, while at the same time raping the Oil for Food program to get billions for yourself while arming a genocidal dictator.
In fact, the US has learned many things from France but not the kind of things you’re thinking of.
(And I think the British might have thing or two to say about who is second to the US as an expeditionary military power.)
Yup, you learned modern warfare from the French.
Deal with it.
Plus, American military instructors readily admit this so your outrage is highly amusing.
WW1 trench warfare is hardly modern warfare.
Then you learned modern warfare from the Germans and post-modern warfare from the Iraqis.
Not bad. But the problem is that we learned modern warfare from the French and not the Germans.[/quote]
You are 100 years behind the times.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
WW1 trench warfare is hardly modern warfare.
Then you learned modern warfare from the Germans and post-modern warfare from the Iraqis.
Not bad. But the problem is that we learned modern warfare from the French and not the Germans.
You are 100 years behind the times. [/quote]
Read some history. Modern conventional warfare was born in World War I. Heavy firepower, the thinning of the battlefield, the industrial mobilization of the state for war, etc. Blitzkrieg doctrine was a descendant of German stormtroop tactics of 1918. A century is not that long. For example, the U.S. Army today still has basically the same personnel system it had before World War I.
And FYI, the “early modern” period begins about 1500. 1918 is certainly “modern”.