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[quote]apbt55 wrote:
orion wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
This is what will happen:

If America steps in the world will hate us. If America does not step in the World will hate us. If we wait to help guess what the world will first hate us for waiting and then they will hate us for fighting a war that doesn’t concern us. Sound fair?

Here is what you do.

You abandon all bases on foreign soil and let people sort it out for themselves. Phase them out over the next five years.

Cut military spending in half, eliminate federal income tax and when someone calls you to intervene somewhere tell them you are fucking busy making money.

In other words, act like China.

Noone hates China, except the Tibetians and they hardly count.

Yes but then we have to deal with radioactive clouds from these idiots.

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That is why you have an ocean on either side.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

Also we aren’t commies so we don’t just “want to make money” at least not all of us.

[/quote]

Do you want to make me cry?

DO YOU???

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
orion wrote:
Noone hates China, except the Tibetians and they hardly count.

Many Americans have misdirected hatred toward China. They hate it for its nearly overnight success and the upstaging it has given their “Made in the USA” brand.

Ya when you pay your employee/sweat shop workers 5 cents an hour it’s easy to make a profit. [/quote]

Actually it isn´t, because the wages are not the deciding factor, but anyways…

Did you know that the Chinese are already starting to outsource their cheaper industries?

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[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
orion wrote:
Noone hates China, except the Tibetians and they hardly count.

Many Americans have misdirected hatred toward China. They hate it for its nearly overnight success and the upstaging it has given their “Made in the USA” brand.[/quote]

But that is not the kind of hatred that makes you travel thousands of miles to blow shit up.

It´s the good kind of spiteful ignorance.

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[quote]orion wrote:
apbt55 wrote:
orion wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
This is what will happen:

If America steps in the world will hate us. If America does not step in the World will hate us. If we wait to help guess what the world will first hate us for waiting and then they will hate us for fighting a war that doesn’t concern us. Sound fair?

Here is what you do.

You abandon all bases on foreign soil and let people sort it out for themselves. Phase them out over the next five years.

Cut military spending in half, eliminate federal income tax and when someone calls you to intervene somewhere tell them you are fucking busy making money.

In other words, act like China.

Noone hates China, except the Tibetians and they hardly count.

Yes but then we have to deal with radioactive clouds from these idiots.

That is why you have an ocean on either side.

[/quote]

Makes no sense,

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
orion wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
This is what will happen:

If America steps in the world will hate us. If America does not step in the World will hate us. If we wait to help guess what the world will first hate us for waiting and then they will hate us for fighting a war that doesn’t concern us. Sound fair?

Here is what you do.

You abandon all bases on foreign soil and let people sort it out for themselves. Phase them out over the next five years.

Cut military spending in half, eliminate federal income tax and when someone calls you to intervene somewhere tell them you are fucking busy making money.

In other words, act like China.

Noone hates China, except the Tibetians and they hardly count.

Actually a lot of the world dislikes China since their human rights are terrible. Also go to Japan and ask them how they feel about China.

Also we aren’t commies so we don’t just “want to make money” at least not all of us.

Why should we cut the military in half? Look at WWI and WWII. If another major conflict broke out we would have to spend double just to get back to full strength. You don’t thank the military for fighting a war for a decade by taking their jobs.
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Since the USA is the only country capable of policing and keeping order around the globe, its actually time for the rest of the world to pony up and help fund our military. Austria, for ex, should have a 5% surcharge income tax to be immediately given to fund our military.

America polices the globe, or you get the Somali pirates multiplied by several thousand. Make your choice, everyone.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
America polices the globe, or you get the Somali pirates multiplied by several thousand. Make your choice, everyone.
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Or you know, the governments of these other countries could just let commercial shippers to have weapons aboard their ships for protection. No need for US intervention here at all.

If an oil tanker can’t protect against a raft full of thugs then there is a problem.

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That just wouldn’t be politically correct for the enlightened Europeans though.

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[quote]apbt55 wrote:
orion wrote:
apbt55 wrote:
orion wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
This is what will happen:

If America steps in the world will hate us. If America does not step in the World will hate us. If we wait to help guess what the world will first hate us for waiting and then they will hate us for fighting a war that doesn’t concern us. Sound fair?

Here is what you do.

You abandon all bases on foreign soil and let people sort it out for themselves. Phase them out over the next five years.

Cut military spending in half, eliminate federal income tax and when someone calls you to intervene somewhere tell them you are fucking busy making money.

In other words, act like China.

Noone hates China, except the Tibetians and they hardly count.

Yes but then we have to deal with radioactive clouds from these idiots.

That is why you have an ocean on either side.

Makes no sense,
[/quote]

sure it does, let´em play with fire, as long as you have a giant moat.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
orion wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
This is what will happen:

If America steps in the world will hate us. If America does not step in the World will hate us. If we wait to help guess what the world will first hate us for waiting and then they will hate us for fighting a war that doesn’t concern us. Sound fair?

Here is what you do.

You abandon all bases on foreign soil and let people sort it out for themselves. Phase them out over the next five years.

Cut military spending in half, eliminate federal income tax and when someone calls you to intervene somewhere tell them you are fucking busy making money.

In other words, act like China.

Noone hates China, except the Tibetians and they hardly count.

Actually a lot of the world dislikes China since their human rights are terrible. Also go to Japan and ask them how they feel about China.

Also we aren’t commies so we don’t just “want to make money” at least not all of us.

Why should we cut the military in half? Look at WWI and WWII. If another major conflict broke out we would have to spend double just to get back to full strength. You don’t thank the military for fighting a war for a decade by taking their jobs.

Since the USA is the only country capable of policing and keeping order around the globe, its actually time for the rest of the world to pony up and help fund our military. Austria, for ex, should have a 5% surcharge income tax to be immediately given to fund our military.

America polices the globe, or you get the Somali pirates multiplied by several thousand. Make your choice, everyone.

[/quote]

is you insane? We have a marginal rate of taxation of 66% as it is.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
That just wouldn’t be politically correct for the enlightened Europeans though. [/quote]

Political correctness is not quite the disease here it is in the US.

Then, those ships mostly sail under third world flags anyway.

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[quote]orion wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
That just wouldn’t be politically correct for the enlightened Europeans though.

Political correctness is not quite the disease here it is in the US.

Then, those ships mostly sail under third world flags anyway.

[/quote]

I agree America is way to politically correct. To be outspoken in our country anymore is borderline treason.

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[quote]orion wrote:

sure it does, let´em play with fire, as long as you have a giant moat.

[/quote]

But it really doesn’t, if there is a nuclear war started, by one of these more extreme groups. It will definitely impact in ways you couldn’t understand.

It would impact the entire world.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
orion wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
That just wouldn’t be politically correct for the enlightened Europeans though.

Political correctness is not quite the disease here it is in the US.

Then, those ships mostly sail under third world flags anyway.

I agree America is way to politically correct. To be outspoken in our country anymore is borderline treason. [/quote]

See, we have 3/4 socialism, at least for the unwashed masses, but you can say whatever you want.

Unless you deny the holocaust, then you go to jail.

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[quote]apbt55 wrote:
orion wrote:

sure it does, let´em play with fire, as long as you have a giant moat.

But it really doesn’t, if there is a nuclear war started, by one of these more extreme groups. It will definitely impact in ways you couldn’t understand.

It would impact the entire world.[/quote]

All the more reason not to pour gasoline into the fire.

Let´s face it, they call you Big Satan.

That is several steps beyond calling your momma ugly.

I do not think that American troops instill hope, reason and tranquility in most people these days.

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[quote]orion wrote:
apbt55 wrote:
orion wrote:

sure it does, let´em play with fire, as long as you have a giant moat.

But it really doesn’t, if there is a nuclear war started, by one of these more extreme groups. It will definitely impact in ways you couldn’t understand.

It would impact the entire world.

All the more reason not to pour gasoline into the fire.

Let´s face it, they call you Big Satan.

That is several steps beyond calling your momma ugly.

I do not think that American troops instill hope, reason and tranquility in most people these days.

[/quote]

I think they instill those traits in the people that matter and the rest of the world can do and say what they want about it.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

Also we aren’t commies so we don’t just “want to make money” at least not all of us.
[/quote]

I’m sorry. I realize the thread has continued past this point, but… I just couldn’t let it go.

This is the dumbest statement I’ve read in a long, long time.

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[quote]orion wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
orion wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
This is what will happen:

If America steps in the world will hate us. If America does not step in the World will hate us. If we wait to help guess what the world will first hate us for waiting and then they will hate us for fighting a war that doesn’t concern us. Sound fair?

Here is what you do.

You abandon all bases on foreign soil and let people sort it out for themselves. Phase them out over the next five years.

Cut military spending in half, eliminate federal income tax and when someone calls you to intervene somewhere tell them you are fucking busy making money.

In other words, act like China.

Noone hates China, except the Tibetians and they hardly count.

Actually a lot of the world dislikes China since their human rights are terrible. Also go to Japan and ask them how they feel about China.

Also we aren’t commies so we don’t just “want to make money” at least not all of us.

Why should we cut the military in half? Look at WWI and WWII. If another major conflict broke out we would have to spend double just to get back to full strength. You don’t thank the military for fighting a war for a decade by taking their jobs.

Since the USA is the only country capable of policing and keeping order around the globe, its actually time for the rest of the world to pony up and help fund our military. Austria, for ex, should have a 5% surcharge income tax to be immediately given to fund our military.

America polices the globe, or you get the Somali pirates multiplied by several thousand. Make your choice, everyone.

is you insane? We have a marginal rate of taxation of 66% as it is.[/quote]

Obama wants to have a global poverty tax. How about a global police tax, with aircraft carriers and subs?

Seriously, if we don’t crush the pirates, its going to be just like a brush fire — there’ll be thousands of such groups in the near future. Think what that’ll do to the global economy!

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
orion wrote:
apbt55 wrote:
orion wrote:

sure it does, let´em play with fire, as long as you have a giant moat.

But it really doesn’t, if there is a nuclear war started, by one of these more extreme groups. It will definitely impact in ways you couldn’t understand.

It would impact the entire world.

All the more reason not to pour gasoline into the fire.

Let´s face it, they call you Big Satan.

That is several steps beyond calling your momma ugly.

I do not think that American troops instill hope, reason and tranquility in most people these days.

I think they instill those traits in the people that matter and the rest of the world can do and say what they want about it. [/quote]

Well, the rest of the world thinks, since you have bases in their countries, you could, kind of like, leave and they call you Big Satan and kill you if they have the chance.

Bases in 150 countries?

1 Trillion for “defense”?

Really?

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
orion wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
orion wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
This is what will happen:

If America steps in the world will hate us. If America does not step in the World will hate us. If we wait to help guess what the world will first hate us for waiting and then they will hate us for fighting a war that doesn’t concern us. Sound fair?

Here is what you do.

You abandon all bases on foreign soil and let people sort it out for themselves. Phase them out over the next five years.

Cut military spending in half, eliminate federal income tax and when someone calls you to intervene somewhere tell them you are fucking busy making money.

In other words, act like China.

Noone hates China, except the Tibetians and they hardly count.

Actually a lot of the world dislikes China since their human rights are terrible. Also go to Japan and ask them how they feel about China.

Also we aren’t commies so we don’t just “want to make money” at least not all of us.

Why should we cut the military in half? Look at WWI and WWII. If another major conflict broke out we would have to spend double just to get back to full strength. You don’t thank the military for fighting a war for a decade by taking their jobs.

Since the USA is the only country capable of policing and keeping order around the globe, its actually time for the rest of the world to pony up and help fund our military. Austria, for ex, should have a 5% surcharge income tax to be immediately given to fund our military.

America polices the globe, or you get the Somali pirates multiplied by several thousand. Make your choice, everyone.

is you insane? We have a marginal rate of taxation of 66% as it is.

Obama wants to have a global poverty tax. How about a global police tax, with aircraft carriers and subs?

Seriously, if we don’t crush the pirates, its going to be just like a brush fire — there’ll be thousands of such groups in the near future. Think what that’ll do to the global economy!

[/quote]

So we put a gunship on every oil tanker.

That is an insurance issue.