Investing in Schools Creates More Than Twice as Many Jobs as Military Spending

I suppose that in the interest of full disclosure I ought to point out that one of the reasons I like John T, Gatto is that he, like me, gave up a lucrative career as an advertising copywriter to become a teacher. Unlike him, I found a way to make teaching just as lucrative (running a private school to teach English in Japan), but many of the “guerrilla educational tactics” he describes in his books and speeches ring particularly familiar to me.

I used to take students on field trips out into the subtropical rain forests of the Boso peninsula where I lived, teaching them English, certainly, but also primitive survival skills such as fire making, shelter building, trapping and fishing using lines braided out of cattail leaf fibers. Yes, some parents raised some eyebrows when their progeny came marching back to the “school” in the rain, covered in mud, singing lusty sea shanties in English, but most were thrilled. I figured, if they didn’t approve of my methods they shouldn’t have signed their kids up at a place called “Adventure English.”

[quote]drunkpig wrote:

Oddly enough - you are whining about the lack of home schooled social interaction, but you completely ignore the fact that they can fucking read, write and count at levels higher than a comparable publicly educated child.

If you aren’t teaching my kid to read, write, and count - what the fuck are you doing?
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Oh, I think it’s pretty clear what they’re doing.

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
I’m a bit late to this party, but I thought I’d share some of the words of John Taylor Gatto, one of the most lauded teachers in the public school system, and one of its most eloquent critics. He is the author of “Dumbing us Down”, a scathing critique of the “institution” of public education, whose unspoken ultimate agenda is no different from that of any other institution, namely, institutionalization.

One need only look at this or any other Internet forum to see that the systematic dumbing-down of the American people has to a huge extent been accomplished. The number of people who are practically illiterate in their native language, unable to comprehend even the most basic phrases in a foreign language, woefully ignorant of history and its implications on the present, and contemptuous of scienctific theories, other cultures and religions, the teaching profession in particular and intellectualism in general, is staggering. Internet forums may be a poor place to draw a statistical sample, but there is enough evidence in real life to conclude that it is indicative of conditions in society at large.

This situation, Gatto reasons, is not a result of the public education system’s failure, but rather its success beyond the dreams of its progenitors. Arguing, therefore, that all we need to “fix” education in America is to “invest” more money into it is tantamount to claiming that all we need to put out the oilfield fire is to “invest” more gasoline.

No, to put out a gusher fire, one needs dynamite.

Gatto provides some here.

http://www.wesjones.com/gatto1.htm
http://iwcenglish1.typepad.com/Documents/Gatto_Dumbing_Us_Down.pdf[/quote]

Thank you for the links!

[quote]2busy wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
I’m a bit late to this party, but I thought I’d share some of the words of John Taylor Gatto, one of the most lauded teachers in the public school system, and one of its most eloquent critics. He is the author of “Dumbing us Down”, a scathing critique of the “institution” of public education, whose unspoken ultimate agenda is no different from that of any other institution, namely, institutionalization.

One need only look at this or any other Internet forum to see that the systematic dumbing-down of the American people has to a huge extent been accomplished. The number of people who are practically illiterate in their native language, unable to comprehend even the most basic phrases in a foreign language, woefully ignorant of history and its implications on the present, and contemptuous of scienctific theories, other cultures and religions, the teaching profession in particular and intellectualism in general, is staggering. Internet forums may be a poor place to draw a statistical sample, but there is enough evidence in real life to conclude that it is indicative of conditions in society at large.

This situation, Gatto reasons, is not a result of the public education system’s failure, but rather its success beyond the dreams of its progenitors. Arguing, therefore, that all we need to “fix” education in America is to “invest” more money into it is tantamount to claiming that all we need to put out the oilfield fire is to “invest” more gasoline.

No, to put out a gusher fire, one needs dynamite.

Gatto provides some here.

http://www.wesjones.com/gatto1.htm
http://iwcenglish1.typepad.com/Documents/Gatto_Dumbing_Us_Down.pdf[/quote]

Thank you for the links!
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I read the first link. Maybe this is why I hated school so much. I wanted an education not how to memorize stuff. Basically that is what a test is. What did you memorize not what did you actually learn. It is like this all the way through your Bachelor. My MBA is more education and application and less memorization.