It’s probably the income from all three properties per month. Even $1000/month for one place is a lot. At $12000/year, that’s probably more than most of those people make. I live in a pretty cheap area (not Detroit), and $300/month is about what I pay.
[quote]johnnytang24 wrote:
It’s probably the income from all three properties per month. Even $1000/month for one place is a lot. At $12000/year, that’s probably more than most of those people make. I live in a pretty cheap area (not Detroit), and $300/month is about what I pay.[/quote]
Far out man, rent in America must be pretty low compared to Australia, then! Around here, even in what is considered a cheap area, the average rent is $350 per week.
Average? Its hard enough to find a decent house for under $400 a week. Such fucking bullshit. Personally I have a fucking awesome setup for $110 a week so I won’t complain.
I can’t believe people earn less then 12k a year working full time. Our goverment pays almost more then that if you don’t work at all. Even though our dollar is shit, the average person here earns about 35k I think. They claim the average income is 54,000/year but hardly anyone I know earns that, maybe one in 20 people.
In all seriousness, Detroit really shouldn’t be a bad place to live, if it were improved and revived - it’s actually a pretty good location, geographically.
The revival of Detroit into a Super-Metropolis -
So what are the main problems there - crime, drugs, and poverty? If you improve one end of this triangle, you also improve the other two.
I think the best way to revive Detroit would be to create a new car factory there. A profitable company is something that would create a lot of jobs and stimulate the economy.
I have an idea for a certain type of car that is environmentally friendly - it’s just a matter of getting over there and either buying an old auto factory or building a new one.
I could form a real estate holding corp and buy property, then rent the properties to the employees at discount rates. Make life more affordable.
I would also improve education using certain technology and systems that I have in mind.
Poverty and ignorance would go down, thus reducing crime.
The drug problem, well, that would have to be assisted, not by more law enforcement and punishment, but by more progressive methods. Controlled doses of Kratom could be used for heroin addictions instead of suboxone, buprenorphine or methadone. As for crack, coke, meth, and so forth, I understand stimulant addiction so there is a way to overcome it. Using some European nations as an example too see things that work, and things that don’t work, would give a better idea of the drugs in society picture.
I know there is hope, if the right people could just get together and make it happen.

[quote]hardgnr wrote:
Average? Its hard enough to find a decent house for under $400 a week. [/quote]
Tell me about it! I’m building a house on my parent’s property (fully fenced off and subdivided as a separate home with its own driveway) because I own a share of it, so I won’t have to rent.
Apparently, Detroit officials note that about 65 to 70 percent of homicides in the city were confined to a narcotics catalyst. Therefore most of the crime problem is drug related.
If you could solve the drugs problem, then you could greatly reduce the crime.
I also noticed that white people are actually a minority in Detroit? According to the census in 2000, the racial makeup of the city was 81.6% Black, 12.3% White, 1.0% Asian, 0.3% Native American, 0.03% Pacific Islander, 2.5% other races, 2.3% two or more races, and 5.0 percent Hispanic.
The houses in Detroit that are selling for such ridiculously low prices are ghetto. There are some nice parts of Detroit, but you won’t find a 10K USD house there.
If you want to be a ghetto landlord and deal with all the crap that goes along with it, from Australia no less, hop a plane and buy as many as you can afford.
You’d be doing the banks and the city of Detroit a huge favor while becoming a bonafide slum-lord in the process.
Sounds like the depiction of Detroit in the Robocop movies isn’t too far off?
[quote]abcd1234 wrote:
Sounds like the depiction of Detroit in the Robocop movies isn’t too far off? [/quote]
There are parts of Detroit that are nice, but most of it is very run down. It is also very segregated, with white flight beginning after the 67 riots. It is really a shame, as it was once the jewel of the Midwest, and there is some amazing architecture there.
One wrong turn can get you in a lot of trouble though.
I was making a delivery once in a bombed out looking neighborhood.
I stopped because someone had laid tires across the road. I looked in my mirror and they were rolling tires in the road behind me to set up a trap. Luckily crackheads aren’t too sharp and they left me room to escape. Probably couldn’t scrounge enough tires.
[quote]johnnytang24 wrote:
It’s probably the income from all three properties per month. Even $1000/month for one place is a lot. At $12000/year, that’s probably more than most of those people make. I live in a pretty cheap area (not Detroit), and $300/month is about what I pay.[/quote]
Wow, that is much cheaper than my area of the country where the average rent is over $1k.
[quote]JohnnyBlaze wrote:
In all seriousness, Detroit really shouldn’t be a bad place to live, if it were improved and revived - it’s actually a pretty good location, geographically.
The revival of Detroit into a Super-Metropolis -
So what are the main problems there - crime, drugs, and poverty? If you improve one end of this triangle, you also improve the other two.
I think the best way to revive Detroit would be to create a new car factory there. A profitable company is something that would create a lot of jobs and stimulate the economy.
I have an idea for a certain type of car that is environmentally friendly - it’s just a matter of getting over there and either buying an old auto factory or building a new one.
I could form a real estate holding corp and buy property, then rent the properties to the employees at discount rates. Make life more affordable.
I would also improve education using certain technology and systems that I have in mind.
Poverty and ignorance would go down, thus reducing crime.
The drug problem, well, that would have to be assisted, not by more law enforcement and punishment, but by more progressive methods. Controlled doses of Kratom could be used for heroin addictions instead of suboxone, buprenorphine or methadone. As for crack, coke, meth, and so forth, I understand stimulant addiction so there is a way to overcome it. Using some European nations as an example too see things that work, and things that don’t work, would give a better idea of the drugs in society picture.
I know there is hope, if the right people could just get together and make it happen.[/quote]
Do it.
[quote]JohnnyBlaze wrote:
The revival of Detroit into a Super-Metropolis -
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you have been watching too much robocop…
detroit is a hole that will someday just be knocked down and they will try again.
[quote]Ratchet wrote:
JohnnyBlaze wrote:
The revival of Detroit into a Super-Metropolis -
you have been watching too much robocop…
detroit is a hole that will someday just be knocked down and they will try again.
[/quote]
That’s far removed from what I had in mind. My vision is for a peaceful, thriving, progressive and technologically advanced American city.
[quote]Free2Be wrote:
JohnnyBlaze wrote:
In all seriousness, Detroit really shouldn’t be a bad place to live, if it were improved and revived - it’s actually a pretty good location, geographically.
The revival of Detroit into a Super-Metropolis -
So what are the main problems there - crime, drugs, and poverty? If you improve one end of this triangle, you also improve the other two.
I think the best way to revive Detroit would be to create a new car factory there. A profitable company is something that would create a lot of jobs and stimulate the economy.
I have an idea for a certain type of car that is environmentally friendly - it’s just a matter of getting over there and either buying an old auto factory or building a new one.
I could form a real estate holding corp and buy property, then rent the properties to the employees at discount rates. Make life more affordable.
I would also improve education using certain technology and systems that I have in mind.
Poverty and ignorance would go down, thus reducing crime.
The drug problem, well, that would have to be assisted, not by more law enforcement and punishment, but by more progressive methods. Controlled doses of Kratom could be used for heroin addictions instead of suboxone, buprenorphine or methadone. As for crack, coke, meth, and so forth, I understand stimulant addiction so there is a way to overcome it. Using some European nations as an example too see things that work, and things that don’t work, would give a better idea of the drugs in society picture.
I know there is hope, if the right people could just get together and make it happen.
Do it.[/quote]
I’d love to. There’s nothing wrong with giving it a try, because Detroit can’t be made any worse, anyway…
[quote]JohnnyBlaze wrote:
Ratchet wrote:
JohnnyBlaze wrote:
The revival of Detroit into a Super-Metropolis -
you have been watching too much robocop…
detroit is a hole that will someday just be knocked down and they will try again.
That’s far removed from what I had in mind. My vision is for a peaceful, thriving, progressive and technologically advanced American city.[/quote]
Can anyone else envision this, and under what circumstances?
Uber
[quote]hardgnr wrote:
Average? Its hard enough to find a decent house for under $400 a week. Such fucking bullshit. Personally I have a fucking awesome setup for $110 a week so I won’t complain.
I can’t believe people earn less then 12k a year working full time. Our goverment pays almost more then that if you don’t work at all. Even though our dollar is shit, the average person here earns about 35k I think. They claim the average income is 54,000/year but hardly anyone I know earns that, maybe one in 20 people.[/quote]
For your purposes the median income would be a more valuable figure.
Imagine your nation went through an industrial boomb, and a bunch of exslave, illiterate, sharecropper serfabos, walked from the outback to a regional shipping and emerging production hub.
The racial climate lent itself to segregation to maintain order between class and color for peace. There were always more abos, than jobs so things became ultracompetitive, and labor was super productive, but poverty was always endemic.
Then there was a class war, in which the the workers formed unions and forced the companies into a corner, cutting down profitability and making them uncompetitive.
Then there was a mini-race war and all the non-abos, ran out because they were afraid of the very real possibility of murder and rape.
The unions and race war destroyed the industry, joblessness increased, but none of these regional immigrants went home. Instead they started shitting out tons and tons of babies without the means to care for them.
All the wealthy tax base of the city left, so there was no money to improve infrastructure and social systems.
This left over plebian populaiton, then turned against itself and without an upper class to rob, began to rob and trick eachother into worse more rampant subjugation. Crack cocaine the collar of choice allowed wiseguys to control and tax the weaker minded poor.
Now the US economic system falters, and you think as an Australian, it would be a good idea to buy up these crackhouses that the plebians live in and charge them for it?
You might as well buy a hi-jacked house in Johanneseburg…if you wouldn’t invest in South Africa, you shouldn’t invest in Detroit. Same shyt, different continent.
In Detriot people hi-jack apartment buildings, if the police cannot control the serfdom of that city, how can you enforce rent from 3,000 miles away? Anything in the price range you speak of is going to be a house which will be squatted in or hi-jacked, it’s not worth your effort.