Internet Censorship

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

For YEARS, news websites just reported the news, without any of this “audience participation” stuff. There wasn’t any way to voice your opinion at all on the news sites themselves.

Then with this whole Web 2.0 trend, especially the increase of social media, comment sections started to appear everywhere. My guess is there were lots of meetings where the real reason for doing it was “but everyone else is doing it”. It gave them the right to say that they’re cutting edge or whatever. [/quote]

And things have changed. All sorts of pieces of information are now shared that wouldn’t’ve been possible without anonymous type communication.

[quote]LoRez wrote:
Now that that’s less of an issue, and there’s plenty of outlets for discussion – e.g., facebook, twitter – where people can link back to the original article, it seems to make less and less business sense for the news sites to maintain their comment sections.

They still get the clicks (from the links), the search engine placement (from the links), and their audience still has a place to discuss and joke about things (on the social media sites)… but they don’t have to be the ones responsible for hosting it. This makes things easier from a legal perspective too.[/quote]

Right but that still kills your anonymity. There are sites dedicated to collecting FB discussions and posting them such as failbook. On top of that, Zuckerberg is data mining all our accounts.
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Maybe it’s just because of my background in computing… but there’s never been anonymity on the internet. Never.

I don’t know why people act like there is.

On the other hand, there’s so much data out there that, for the most part, nobody gives a damn about you. So yeah, sure, people can “spy” on me… and I have stuff I’d rather them not know… but I’m not important enough to matter.

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[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:
Unless someone is preventing you from paying for your own server space and hosting your own pages, you are free to have as many opinions as you wish. What you aren’t ‘free’ to have is the server space of popular sites if they do not wish to host your opinions. They are not public commodities, they are commercial sites operating for the purpose of creating revenue, not as a public service.
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I have a feeling that killing the comments is actually going to decrease the clicks, and thus their revenue.

Even from a legitimate news-gathering standpoint, I’d expect that some articles/videos are posted entirely to spark some controversy so the reporters can mine the comments for new leads.[/quote]

That might be true but that isn’t the point. There isn’t any censorship going on.

I like reading comments for the lolz too but I’m not going to pretend they actually have any political value.
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Yeah, I agree it’s not censorship.

Somewhat stretching the analogy, but:
a given website = private property
the ‘internet’ = public property

But for some reason, I don’t think most people realize that.[/quote]

They don’t because they don’t bother to read the terms and conditions of membership when signing up.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

For YEARS, news websites just reported the news, without any of this “audience participation” stuff. There wasn’t any way to voice your opinion at all on the news sites themselves.

Then with this whole Web 2.0 trend, especially the increase of social media, comment sections started to appear everywhere. My guess is there were lots of meetings where the real reason for doing it was “but everyone else is doing it”. It gave them the right to say that they’re cutting edge or whatever. [/quote]

And things have changed. All sorts of pieces of information are now shared that wouldn’t’ve been possible without anonymous type communication.

[quote]LoRez wrote:
Now that that’s less of an issue, and there’s plenty of outlets for discussion – e.g., facebook, twitter – where people can link back to the original article, it seems to make less and less business sense for the news sites to maintain their comment sections.

They still get the clicks (from the links), the search engine placement (from the links), and their audience still has a place to discuss and joke about things (on the social media sites)… but they don’t have to be the ones responsible for hosting it. This makes things easier from a legal perspective too.[/quote]

Right but that still kills your anonymity. There are sites dedicated to collecting FB discussions and posting them such as failbook. On top of that, Zuckerberg is data mining all our accounts.
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You’re kind of arguing around this odd premise that because anonymity is being removed from one part of the internet, it’s being removed from the internet?

I have a FB account and a Twitter account that are ‘anonymous’(true anonymity requires some incredible thoroughness that could be its own topic, but that’s not required to prevent your employer or family or friends from attaching content to your name), I could post all the women bashing, racist shit I wanted on them. Every forum I post on is anonymous if I choose them to be.

Internet Censorship is actually a huge ongoing discussion, and something completely different than what you are actually putting forth in this thread.

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I too spent countless hours of my life reading comments on videos, articles ect. I won’t visit those sites anymore. Everytime I post shit online I assume some but pirate is watching with nothing better to do. Shit is never anonymous on the interwebs unless you take 10000x precautions and have hacker skills.

You should be able to comment on it I agree with blocking ip addresses that either spam or have no valid data, Ie people being racist or plainly rude for no reason. I think North america is in bad shape if we try to silence either end of the political spectrum because although people may not admit it it sops us from swinging heavily to one side. I wish that in our countries the republicans conservatives ran the economies and the liberal and democrats ran social initiatives, that way we can move forward and stop wasting time on new laws or bringing old ones and ect, so much time and money is lost over fighting about ideological differences

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Yes, of course. All the shittiest sites on the internet are like that.

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