Intermittent Fasting: Martin Berkhan

[quote]pumped340 wrote:
I recently started the 16/8 method on Saturday. Not because I expect different results from more typical eating, but 1.) because it’s convenient especially at college (I’m testing it now so I can be more sure about the results when I do it at college in the first half of the day and with different foods) and 2.) because on the cut I’m doing now it’s nice to have bigger more satisfying meals.

What I am surprised about is that I really haven’t been very hungry during the morning, even from day 1. For most people that’s what I expect, because most tell me they either have no breakfast or “have a little something to hold them over”. I on the other hand usually am hungry right when I wake up and love eating a huge breakfast, but like I said it’s seemed fine. I’m actually hungrier now 3 hours after my first meal (eaten at 2:30) than I was prior to it during the fast.

Energy is good, so far the 2 workouts I’ve done have been fine…but I guess we’ll see. Today was my first off day and it feels a little weird doing cardio and then still not eating for hours (Whereas with the workout I just eat right afterwards)

Anyone doing this have diet soda during the fasting portion?[/quote]

sure why not? its no calorie or pretty damn close. its not gonna break the fast.

i wish i knew about this method during college. i probably would have been more productive. i found that i always wrote papers and did assignments best in the morning when i didn’t have food to bog me down, but i was always afraid i would be “catabolic” and my muscles would atrophy if i did this. needless to say i procrastinated a lot… probably just an excuse tho, lol

[quote]Dolce wrote:

[quote]pumped340 wrote:
I recently started the 16/8 method on Saturday. Not because I expect different results from more typical eating, but 1.) because it’s convenient especially at college (I’m testing it now so I can be more sure about the results when I do it at college in the first half of the day and with different foods) and 2.) because on the cut I’m doing now it’s nice to have bigger more satisfying meals.

What I am surprised about is that I really haven’t been very hungry during the morning, even from day 1. For most people that’s what I expect, because most tell me they either have no breakfast or “have a little something to hold them over”. I on the other hand usually am hungry right when I wake up and love eating a huge breakfast, but like I said it’s seemed fine. I’m actually hungrier now 3 hours after my first meal (eaten at 2:30) than I was prior to it during the fast.

Energy is good, so far the 2 workouts I’ve done have been fine…but I guess we’ll see. Today was my first off day and it feels a little weird doing cardio and then still not eating for hours (Whereas with the workout I just eat right afterwards)

Anyone doing this have diet soda during the fasting portion?[/quote]

sure why not? its no calorie or pretty damn close. its not gonna break the fast.

i wish i knew about this method during college. i probably would have been more productive. i found that i always wrote papers and did assignments best in the morning when i didn’t have food to bog me down, but i was always afraid i would be “catabolic” and my muscles would atrophy if i did this. needless to say i procrastinated a lot… probably just an excuse tho, lol
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lol I’m trying to use it for the opposite. My school cafeteria is open from 8am/10am-8pm and is really crowded from 6-8 so what I’m looking to do is the eating portion in the morning. This way I 1.) don’t have to worry about bringing food if I go out with friends/to a party and 2.) when I stay in I don’t have to worry about discretely eating tuna and chicken at night with my roommate and/or friends around.

Martin seems to think this is fine other than maybe hunger and I workout in the early afternoon at college, but it seems there are less “guinea pigs” for this. Also some of the spouted benefits are increased catecholamines and whatnot in the morning.

Interesting. I think it’ll work just fine. Good luck

[quote]pumped340 wrote:
the eating portion in the morning. [/quote]

I don’t think many people try it this way, let us know how it goes.

Dolce: Are you still leaning out with this approach or are you in a maintenance or bulking phase now?

ive started the leans gains approach and its really been helping my digestion. I’ve got IBS and would generally wake up feel ill, eat, feel ill worry about being ill during uni etc. all from small meals maybe 400-500 calls, but fasting through the morning i can have huge meals not feel bloated or ill at all, ive just had a 2300 cal meal and feel absolutely fine which in the 3 years previous wouldn’t even cross my mind.

i’ve been doing this 16/8 for just over a week now. I havent noticed any changes in body comp yet, but I sleep much better and have been having dreams every night. I never have dreams, so thats probably a sign of increased growth hormone production. I also have been having better digestion, and I’m not feeling lethargic at all in the mornings anymore.

I’m really hoping for some body composition changes to start heading my way. I’m at about 14% right now and i’d like to get down to 8% in about 8-10 weeks.

While IF is a great approach, and one I find to be super effective. I do think your macros still need to be in order. So legacy fighter make sure you keep your calories/macros in check. Some walking during 16 hour fast always make me feel great and lean (mental aspect but also good for fat loss)

Martin Berkhan’s new blog post. A great read for anyone who thinks fasting is “starving”:

[quote]forbes wrote:
Martin Berkhan’s new blog post. A great read for anyone who thinks fasting is “starving”:

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x2, puts alot of bullshit on the topic to rest.

[quote]Hog Ear wrote:
I’ve been doing the 16/8 intermittent fasting per Leangains for a week, so far I feel great. This feels like the natural way for me to eat, I had always resisted it though because I thought I’d loose muscle. On days when I lift I’ll take a scoop of whey about an hour before training. I break the fast with solid food around 1pm, the have 2 or 3 more meals before bed. I’ll post some body pics in a few months. [/quote]

What page are the pics at?

[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:

[quote]forbes wrote:
Martin Berkhan’s new blog post. A great read for anyone who thinks fasting is “starving”:

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x2, puts alot of bullshit on the topic to rest.
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x3 I third that.

[quote]legacyfighter wrote:
Dolce: Are you still leaning out with this approach or are you in a maintenance or bulking phase now?[/quote]

been bulking it up. got a little dirty there for a few weeks… i nearly doubled my training volume. went from 195- to 208ish in about 6 weeks. definitely some fat gain… but that’s to be expected eating junk food. look’s like i’ve put on few pounds of LBM.

i’ve still been fasting everyday till at least 2pm… sometimes till 5pm. i think this has really helped keep the fat gain from getting out of control even though i’ve been eating an excess of 4-5k calories a few days a week. i typically gain fat really easily.

started cutting again yesterday. will cut to thanksgiving and evaluate where i am then. might take it into december, then bulk again for 2-3 months, and cut again for summer.

i hate being such a pussy about bulking. i actually made my best gains when i ballooned up to 230 but i felt like crap. next time i bulk, i’ll probably use a “carb backloading type approach”- something to the effect of fasting till around noon, eating 1-2 protein/ fat meals a couple hours before training and loads of carbs peri and post training. this way i can keep the calories fairly high without feeling incapacitated after eating. gonna keep the calories pretty clean this bulk too. gonna try to limit eating out/ pizza/ donuts/ ice cream to maybe once a week, depending on how i feel.

all in all, intermittent fasting has given me some control back. the biggest benefit to this type of dieting is the time/ energy you save not eating half the day. as long as you aren’t doing anything terribly strenuous during this time, it ain’t no thang.

love me some coffee on an empty stomach…

i’ll have some updated pictures come thanksgiving. i’m hoping to be as lean as my previously posted pictures but a few pounds heavier!

So Martin Berkhan is the real deal? His arguments seemed convincing but I don’t know enough to really evaluate them on a scientific level.

I’m currently doing IF and while my weight isn’t budging much (and I don’t want it to), my body comp is changing, and I’m gaining strength. So I’m happy so far.

I’m wondering if it’s good for my diabetic father…

[quote]tef wrote:
So Martin Berkhan is the real deal? His arguments seemed convincing but I don’t know enough to really evaluate them on a scientific level.

I’m currently doing IF and while my weight isn’t budging much (and I don’t want it to), my body comp is changing, and I’m gaining strength. So I’m happy so far.

I’m wondering if it’s good for my diabetic father…[/quote]

How has your bodycomp changed?

Any real-world specific examples will help lend credibility to this technique.

If you follow his research and anyone who has applied his principles you will see he doesn’t lack in the credibility department. I have followed his program since the beginning of the year and have gone down 10 pounds in body weight while increasing in strength and muscle size. I am a big believer based on my own results. It works for me and for others that have tried it. Just get your macros right and watch what happens.

[quote]ColinD624 wrote:

[quote]tef wrote:
So Martin Berkhan is the real deal? His arguments seemed convincing but I don’t know enough to really evaluate them on a scientific level.

I’m currently doing IF and while my weight isn’t budging much (and I don’t want it to), my body comp is changing, and I’m gaining strength. So I’m happy so far.

I’m wondering if it’s good for my diabetic father…[/quote]

How has your bodycomp changed?

Any real-world specific examples will help lend credibility to this technique.[/quote]

Went from 11% bf to like 8%, and am stronger.

[quote]BamaGuy wrote:
Just get your macros right and watch what happens.[/quote]

Agreed. I’ve been following leangains for almost a year… Definitely works quite well, especially for retaining LBM when in a calorie deficit.

Check my pics on the 2nd page of the thread for a real world example.

[quote]tworkinhard wrote:
Definitely works quite well, especially for retaining LBM when in a calorie deficit. [/quote]

this^ . its strange watchin the fat go down but the lifts keep goin up . i dont train fasted any more i have 25g whey 60g hi gi carbs pre w/o n the same pwo n 2 more meals after that .