This thread is so gay. Whats with all these ego fuck threads. OP, are you in the gifted program. Have you had your IQ tested. Do you try and take over the world every night, only to have your feeble minded sidekick wreck your plans.
Have you ever thought that if you were really smart, you would be able to figure out how to talk to dumb people? It’s not very hard. Just get off your high horse. It will often times be frustrating, but you better figure it out. It’s much harder to only interact with only highly intellegent people.
[quote]keaster wrote:
This thread is so gay. Whats with all these ego fuck threads. OP, are you in the gifted program. Have you had your IQ tested. Do you try and take over the world every night, only to have your feeble minded sidekick wreck your plans.
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Please realize that this is an Internet forum. If you take Internet forums too seriously you should seriously evaluate your priorities.
To answer, either of your questions, yes I am in the ‘Gifted Program’, if you accept all Honors/AP classes as being the equivelant of the ‘Gifted Program’ at a school that offers nothing by such a specific title.
I have had my IQ tested with results ranging from 131 to 181- as you get farther and farther away from the average, IQ tests, designed for the mean, become decreasingly accurate.
[quote]nephorm wrote:
I imagine that as you grow older, you’ll find that the gap between you and your peers will diminish significantly. By training for a profession, you’ll start to filter people out (one way or the other).
By being exposed to people older than you who have much more experience. You are sheltered from that, to a certain extent. You’ll also find, as you get older, that people have things that they invest their time and energies into; dedication can outshine aptitude.
Of course, a lot of it is dependent upon how far away from the mean you are. In high school, where you are mixed in with what is a more representative sample of the population, small differences may appear great.[/quote]
This is true. People seem to settle in strata based at least in part on IQ. I’m an attorney in a big firm in New York. It’s a fairly selective group in terms of IQ. There’s a very noticeable difference when dealing with support staff. And I really have to tune things down when I’m dealing with “normal” people.
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
KombatAthlete wrote:
Can anybody else share any insight they might have about this, either from their own experience or someone you knew?
Most people are really stupid. Ponder this: 50% of people have an IQ of 100 or less. An IQ differential of only 10 points can make it almost impossible for two people to communicate.
Based on the logical reasoning present in your posts, I would say you’re easily in the top 2%. This means you will find it almost impossible to communicate beyond the most basic level with almost 90% of all people. Frustrating, 'eh?[/quote]
You seem to actually be able to relate to the ‘condition’ I referred to in my original post.
To everyone else: I never said that I cannot talk to dumb people, that I can’t deal with anybody who doesn’t approach my intellectual plane, or that intelligence is the most supreme attribute a man can have. Don’t be so quick to make assumptions about a person through an Internet forum.
I in no way refrain from mingling with people I percieve as less intelligent. Most of my friend aren’t exactly the brightest tools in the shed, but I do enjoy their company, appreciate their company, and have fun with them. Under no circumstances do I judge who a person is for their intelligence.
It’s just that I cannot relate to most of my friends on a deeper level or connect about most of the things I thik about it, basically what California Law described.
I do not talk about how smart I am. I have learned not to say most of the things that run through my head and avoid it at all costs. I do not control it- other people ask me ‘how are you so smart?’, tell me ‘you are too smart for you’re own good’, etc. on an almost daily basis.
And I have been in every honors class someone possibly could be in a natioanlly ranked high school (not that that really means anything). Most of the kids I encounter on a daily basis are ‘smarter’ than average in their IQ’s, although they are still probably ‘high school dumbasses’.
These are the kids that give me the comments about my intelligence and looks of dismay when I apply myself to something nobody else can do. A lot of people even think I have copies of the teacher’s tests in-advanced in certain subjects when their only grounds for the claim is success.
If it means anything at all to Internet forum posters, I was good friends with both the Valedictorian and Saludatorian from last year, both of whom would often consult me for advice. There was a Math team in my school, the qualifying test for which was a Mathematical IQ test.
I got the highest score in the grade, to the dismay of my Math teacher and the horror of the Asians who thought themsleves to be the supreme math geniuses. And math is my worst subject in school- I’m more of a Soc/English guy at heart.
I guess its possible to judge people through Internet forums now.
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Wow.
When I was younger, my school had a rule that if any IQ testing was done, the child couldn’t see it until he was eighteen unless his parents went through hell and high water. There was a reason - probably a good one, now that I have read this thread.
Good rule of thumb - if you spend a lot of time analyzing how much smarter you are than everyone else, likely you aren’t quite as smart as you think you are.
Some of the most brilliant people I know have no trouble communicating with nearly anyone - why? Because they are smart - there is no personality or topic they can’t field, all because of their intelligence, not in spite of it.
Kombat Athlete - not being able to communicate with some people doesn’t automatically mean it is because you are so much smarter than they are. It may actually mean the opposite.[/quote]
I never said I have trouble communicating. I can get along with anyone quite fine and am adept at mainpualting people’s opinions of me if I want to. I said I have trouble connecting on a deeper level, in the sense of finding someone to talk to about the full-range of your thoughts and feelings about things. That is certainly not the same as communicating.
[quote]KombatAthlete wrote:
am adept at mainpualting people’s opinions of me[/quote]
You’re sure doing a bang-up job of it on this site. I’m sure everyone who reads this thread has a brand new opinion of you.
[quote]KombatAthlete wrote:
percieve
the brightest tools in the shed
Under no circumstances
tell me ‘you are too smart for you’re own good’
could be in a natioanlly ranked high school
teacher’s tests in-advanced in certain subjects
I was good friends with both the Valedictorian and Saludatorian
I’m more of a Soc/English guy at heart.
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[quote]pja wrote:
KombatAthlete wrote:
percieve
the brightest tools in the shed
Under no circumstances
tell me ‘you are too smart for you’re own good’
could be in a natioanlly ranked high school
teacher’s tests in-advanced in certain subjects
I was good friends with both the Valedictorian and Saludatorian
I’m more of a Soc/English guy at heart.
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Funniest reply ever.
[quote]KombatAthlete wrote:
It’s just that I cannot relate to most of my friends on a deeper level or connect about most of the things I thik about it, basically what California Law described.[/quote]
In college, most of my friends were professors. It was hard hanging out with other people. They do really stupid shit - like watch sit-coms. Seriously, why do people think what is on TV is funny? Why is “small talk” interesting?
I always wanted to talk about the latest book I hate read, but who cares about linguistics or philosophy of mind? Even people in my classes rarely read something unless it was required reading. I never understood this. But that’s life.
One thing that was always hard was dating: It’s hard shopping with a girl when all I wanted to do was read a book. Most movies are trash, and conversation over dinner is a bore.
Ultimately, I made a compromise. I learned how to turn off my brain when needed. I can still rip through ideas people struggle with, but when the time is needed (i.e., a social gathering or something), I shut my brain off and at least appear to have a “good time.”
You will either learn this skill or be a crazy intellectual. It’ll be your choice to make. But I will be honest: You’re in for an existential struggle.
[quote]nephorm wrote:
I can’t think of a situation in which a difference of 10 points would make it impossible to communicate, unless you’re right at the “profoundly retarded” line… in which case they aren’t really communicating well within that 10 point range, anyway.[/quote]
I’m not talking about asking for direction to the nearest bus stop. I’m talking about having what I consider to be a high-level conversation.
You can ascertain intelligence to the extent logical reasoning is correlated with intelligence. (I think it is.) The ability to clearly and logically articulate a position is an indicator of whether the person is intelligent.
[quote]eengrms76 wrote:
Well obviously not compared to you. Oh well.
I could come up with a witty comeback but it’s not really worth it. You’re just some old geezer who has nothing better to do than flex their one and only muscle on an internet forum, when it’s obvious your outright attacks on people is just a sign of loneliness and a cry for help.
I have enough charity cases to deal with without worrying if I’m impressing you.
How’s that for an independent thought?
By the way- why don’t you have an avatar? Is the whole system just too confusing for you? I can show you how to upload a picture if you need help.[/quote]
Your post is self-contradictory, and indicates you have a less-than-stellar IQ. E.g., you write: “You’re just some old geezer who has nothing better to do than flex their one and only muscle on an internet forum .” This implies I have “mental muscle.”
You then write: “Instead of using your obvious god-given intelligence for good, you troll around on forums trying to make people think you’re smart. I don’t think anyone around here is buying it.”
Which is it? Do I have this “one muscle,” or don’t I?
You couldn’t even pick a theme and stick with it. Am I an intellectual bully, or am I an idiot who is fronting as someone who is smart? I don’t care what you think, so there is no need to answer.
I just think it’s amusing that you couldn’t stick with even one idea/theme in such a short post.
You’re “better” when you’re parroting the advice given in the latest article. (Is there anyone who would argue that your “advice” is NOT simply your repeating what you read in a T-Mag article?)
[quote]pja wrote:
KombatAthlete wrote:
percieve
the brightest tools in the shed
Under no circumstances
tell me ‘you are too smart for you’re own good’
could be in a natioanlly ranked high school
teacher’s tests in-advanced in certain subjects
I was good friends with both the Valedictorian and Saludatorian
I’m more of a Soc/English guy at heart.
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LOL
[quote]pookie wrote:
KombatAthlete wrote:
am adept at mainpualting people’s opinions of me
You’re sure doing a bang-up job of it on this site. I’m sure everyone who reads this thread has a brand new opinion of you.
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I think this point…may be above his head. One thing I have learned over time is that you can learn something from anyone. It allows me to understand how to deal with different types of people better and also gives me several different perspectives when viewing a problem.
I have a select group of friends I would ever discuss “deeper issues” with and that is mostly because I’ve known them for several years and have been through enough shit with them to believe that I can trust them. It is not based on an IQ alone but rather on trust.
I speak to the janitor the same way I speak to the doctor I share an office with (aside from using different terms or even slang as necessary).
The chance of you being the absolute genius who is so far above all of mankind that you can not relate to any of the population is rather slim. There is a greater chance that you are simply a jackass.
My dad had my IQ tested when I was a kid but would never tell me what I scored on it…and at this point, I truly don’t care. It means nothing to me because I have learned that those who often claim to own the largest amounts of brain matter…are often the least informed on issues that truly matter.
[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
I agree with the intellegence gap thing. Except the other way around.
Mom says that once I learn how to read, write, and do my sums, I might be able to get a job at the filling station.[/quote]
I think what you mean to say is “…I might be able to get ME a job at the filling station.”
Also, it is spelled “intellAgence”.
Sorry, but I am just a bit of a grammer Nazi.
[quote]KombatAthlete wrote:
Most of my friend aren’t exactly the brightest tools in the shed…
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Do you mean the sharpest tools in the shed?
[quote]KombatAthlete wrote:
I hate to potentially sound like the cockiest person alive, but this is an Internet forum after-all.
Does anyone else feel like their unusually high intelligence makes them removed from society, in the sense that you feel separated from just about everyone else you know?
I have noticed this more and more about myself the older I grow (I’m in high school), and although it’s not a bad problem to have, it is a little troubling emotionally. It’s like I’m just not on the same playing field as everyone else. Keep in mind that I have a normal social life and am atheltic so I don’t feel removed simply due to being wierd.
Can anybody else share any insight they might have about this, either from their own experience or someone you knew?[/quote]
I kinda understand what you mean, in two different ways.
First, I have levels of very high in some areas and 5th grade levels in other things, according to tests. (unfortunately the lower ones were in types of memory and math)
Anyways, you may be high in things that you can show, that you understand, but there is something you need to understand to not be seen as a little narcissistic brat-you have your lows. You are human. We all are good at some things and not so good at others. You really need to understand that. Really.
I dont know…do you have high levels in thinking abilities? Because if you do I can see how you feel seperated by being surrounded by people that arent thinking as in depth as you think you do normally.
Then there is the different perspective. I dated this guy who was academically (visual memory retention was extremely high) brilliant.
He got straight A’s through honors private school no big deal, but he had this idea that he was on a whole nother plane than everyone else, and it was a concrete wall in his head-nobody could shake his narcissism and ego, he found his success in academics to be his proof of having a superior mind.
But socially he was ridiculous. He didnt even know how to laugh, I did Everything to try and make him laugh and he would just stare at me, drove me crazy-thats why i stayed with him, to try and make him laugh just once.
Then Everybody Loves Raymond comes on one day and he laughs at him falling on his ass in the show and laughs mechanically. Freaked me out.
So see? He wasnt scially smart at all but was academically oh gotta go
[quote]Fonebone wrote:
BarneyFife wrote:
I agree with the intellegence gap thing. Except the other way around.
Mom says that once I learn how to read, write, and do my sums, I might be able to get a job at the filling station.
I think what you mean to say is “…I might be able to get ME a job at the filling station.”
Also, it is spelled “intellAgence”.
I think (hope?) Barney was being ironic. Although I’m not sure about the “intellegence” issue 
Sorry, but I am just a bit of a grammer Nazi.[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
My dad had my IQ tested when I was a kid but would never tell me what I scored on it…and at this point, I truly don’t care. It means nothing to me because I have learned that those who often claim to own the largest amounts of brain matter…are often the least informed on issues that truly matter. [/quote]
I think IQ tests measure how good you are at passing IQ tests. I think there is a lot more to being smart than just being able to do pattern recognition and sentence completion quickly.
[quote]Res Judicata wrote:
Fonebone wrote:
BarneyFife wrote:
I agree with the intellegence gap thing. Except the other way around.
Mom says that once I learn how to read, write, and do my sums, I might be able to get a job at the filling station.
I think what you mean to say is “…I might be able to get ME a job at the filling station.”
Also, it is spelled “intellAgence”.
I think (hope?) Barney was being ironic. Although I’m not sure about the “intellegence” issue
Sorry, but I am just a bit of a grammer Nazi.
Doesn’t it suck when people accidently put their response inside the quotes, so that it looks like there is no response?
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