I just Googled it, Test Flu sounds exactly where I am at. I guess I just need to ride it out, although it’s rough! Thanks for your input.
I’d like to share some research with you, which may help reduce the catastrophising around lack of sleep (which causes arousal contributing to even worse sleep).
“The study looks at 1.1 million people’s sleep patterns over the course of 6 years, tracking the amount of sleep each subject averaged alongside their longevity. Its major finding: Sleeping as little as 5 hours per night can be better for you than sleeping 8.”
Very interesting mate, kinda makes me feel a bit better about the sleep situation.
I’m having a rough time since going back on the Sustanon, I’m completely wiped out and feel like I have the flu, had it for 10 days now so sleep has been awful.
I’m booked in to give blood this week, I’m hoping this will bring some relief also
I’m sorry to hear you’re still having issues man. I just got caught up on your thread and I have to say, your problems are all hormonal…BUT
Your problem with your hormones is COMPLETELY neurological. Your anxiety is off the charts man. You won’t allow yourself to heal because every time your body tries to reach homeostasis, your brain ramps up and throws it all into a tailspin.
You have conditioned yourself to thrive on an imbalance, and now you have an inert subconscious fear of allowing yourself to stabilize. It’s not the ester. It’s not the oil. It’s not your life. It’s not “just how @pilchard is”. It’s what you have created for yourself through years of self hate, lack of self confidence, and fear of society as a whole.
Here’s what I believe you should do buddy. Have a long discussion with your wife and tell her that you need her support more than ever right now. Tell her that something is broken inside of you and you need to fix it for yours, hers, and your daughters sake.
Take a vacation from work, and book a cabin in a resort somewhere for a week that has a nice swimming pool or a lake. Bring no cell phones, no electronics, and no other connection to the outside world whatsoever. No books. No music. Nothing to stimulate the mind.
Pack up your kids and your wife, and drive there and leave the world behind. Forget about bills. Forget about your life. Forget about everything for one week and just go have a family outing where you, your wife, and your daughters have no outside influence. No normality. Just complete out and out relaxation.
Reconnect with God. Reconnect with family. Reconnect with what it would feel like to live a life of peace. You still have that ability. You’re just scared of change my friend. This ball of fear that you are now is the result of what you have created. It’s your current comfort zone. Get out of it. Break free. Disconnect from the entire world, take your wife and kids and go have a holiday.
Best of luck brother.
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I truly believe you know me more than I know myself! Thanks bro, those words ring so true. Yes, I am the problem, I’ve spent so many years being ill that I don’t know how to live a life without anxiety and depression.
I am so aware and tuned into my body, the slightest change sparks an anxiety response and it becomes so overwhelming I can’t think of anything else until it manifests and becomes an obsession. I don’t know how to be any different.
When I discovered I was T deficient, I thought this was the answer I was looking for, I thought I could supplement testosterone and I would be healed from the torture. I was so wrong. The treatment has made my anxiety worse, constantly worrying about my levels, E2, blood pressure, red blood cell count, it’s become another obsession to add to my ever growing list. To be totally honest with you guys was happier being tired all the time and on antidepressants, I didn’t have this level of anxiety and I could sleep at night.
I’m now at the stage where I have had enough, I can’t take anymore pain. I’m contemplating stopping treatment and getting back on antidepressants and just numbing the whole situation.
I’m finished bro, I don’t have any fight left in me. My holiday to Florida 2 weeks ago was ruined by me obsessing over my health, I felt so ill I couldn’t relax. It was meant to be a once in a lifetime experience for my family but I can’t even remember it, all I remember was I felt like crap.
I’m lost. I pray every day for some peace but every day I have a new challenge to face.
Yes, I suffer with debilitating anxiety and I am severely depressed. I guess you guys knew this anyway from my posts on this thread. I don’t know what to do to put things right. I am truly lost and my life is passing me by. Im not living but merely existing.
Thanks for your positivity bro, it’s nice to know you are there.
If anyone reads this and takes offense, I sincerely apologize…but this is the only help I can offer @pilchard at this time…
Lord, I ask you be with this man. Touch his life and his family. Show yourself real to him. Heal his body. Heal his mind. Give those that are around him the heart to support him, and give them the wisdom to speak truth into his life. Let his mind be focused in peace, love and happiness God. Let him find light in his hour of darkness.
In the name of your Son Jesus Christ,
Amen.
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Thank you bro, I mean that from the bottom of my heart, you are a good man.
I wish I had more to offer you man. I ask that you keep fighting and don’t roll over and give up though. I truly believe if you keep fighting and keep faith in whatever is your truth and yourself that you will find your answers and youll be stronger when you do
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I’m trying bro, I truly am but I’m tired. Thanks for your words of positivity
Okay, when I stopped laughing I followed the links and read.Then I laughed some more.
Like this gem: “With all the biohacking I’ve done over the years, I’m able to thrive on about 2.5 hours of sleep per night and be fully functional the next day without needing to “catch up” on sleep.”
Let’s start with the fact (yeah, I’m going with FACT) that this “Bulletproof” moron is preying on stupidity and is essentially useless as a source of information. Coconut oil in your coffee is not going to do anything for you except ruin that cup of coffee.
You’ll notice that he does not actually link to the study anywhere. He also doesn;t link to anything that echoes his claim about what the study says.
You need enough sleep. It needs to be good sleep. You need to know sleep quality to derive any useful comparison of durations. And I’ll add this, geting 2.5 hours of sleep a night will positively make you delusional and stupid in a very real sense quite quickly. And you cannot “catch up on sleep”. You can only get what your body needs.
It would appear my new protocol is heading in the right direction, I’m happy my E2 has fallen quite a bit. These bloods were taken at 3 weeks into the new protocol, as I was paranoid about red blood cell count and E2 which is why I wanted to test, but it would seem they aren’t too bad, I may have to give blood but I’m not overly concerned, my platelets are within range this time.
I will retest in around 5 weeks when things have levelled out more, all in all quite happy and goes to show I have been worrying unnecessarily.
I was a bit disappointed with my T levels but this was in a trough and also I am taking Sustanon so all the other esters won’t have built up yet in my body.
US conversion
T = 519
E2 = 39
Sorry but could not read all the thread.
Since you improved your protocol did your sleep improve?
How was your insomnia pre TRT compared to post TRT?
Hi mate, insomnia is still present unfortunately, it’s become a psychological problem for me. Pre TRT I could sleep a lot better (not great) but it seems the introduction of Testosterone has worsened my problems. I’m still searching for an answer!
Take magnesium glycinate 30 mins before bed. 400 - 600 mg. Specifically GLYCINATE.
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Ive just ordered some, thanks
Just to update my log: I still feel like crap, the only thing that is constantly high is my E2. I’m gonna bite the bullet and take arimidex 0.25mg x 2 weekly. I’ve done everything possible to bring it down but have failed. All my current symptoms, high anxiety, depression, insomnia, hot flushes point to high E2. I’m gonna add in the AI. I will report back soon.
hey Pilchard,
please take a look on this: The Gut Brain Connection: How Gut Health Affects Mental Health
and Microbes and mental health: A review - ScienceDirect
you also should avoid gluten. they cause leaky gut.
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Very interesting, I have introduced kefir and sauerkraut into my diet to help with gut bacteria…
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Nice , perhaps take some time do repopulate with the “good guys” keep up! gl
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How are you going with the Arimidex? Any improvements?
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