Hi there all, I am a sports teacher from the UK and have recently found out that some of my pupils in the rugby team are taking steroids. They are 19/20 yr olds. I have done alot of research into steroids but can find very little detail on steroids’ effect on 19/20 yr olds.
As you may/not know, using steroids is not illegal in the UK (only supplying them) but is not allowed in many sports. I have talked to those using the drugs and have mentioned the possible adverse affects on their natural growth/ test production.
However, they counter this by saying that their PCT is extremely good and that there is no worries. I am not 100% sure as to whether they are right or not.
If anyone can tell me anything they know on this topic in a bit more detail than “may cause natural test production to decrease etc (v.vague)” or give me any good links to informative web sites, I would be very grateful.
I have been looking for long term negative side effects from juice, and have not been able to find any.
I have seen many a challenge in these forums for someone to find proof of negative irreversible damage, and no one has been able to come up with any.
I have heard they can make you sterile, lose the ability to get an erection, but I haven’t found anyone with these problems.
Some people have said it causes heart problems, then go on to cite Arnold as an example of what steroids do to your heart. But if you look at Arnold in Wikipedia it becomes very clear he had the heart problems his entire life.
Good friend, and please come back to let us/me know if you find anything.
As I see it, the biggest problem, eventhough it is not that common of a problem, is the psychological problems that can occur within certain teens. As most of parents know, all teenagers have mood swings. Added to these, when a young adult takes steroids, this can lead to greater mood swings and if the hormone imbalance is very high, can lead to total personality change (for the duration of the cycle at least). However, it must be noted that the brain in question must already have “the ability” to be affected in order the person to experience extreme differences in personality. What I mean by this is that some people are born with the potential to become psychotic, and for example, if they experience a great emotional trauma, the resulting emotions caused by hormone imbalance, can lead the frontal lobes of the brain, “unleashing” the normally dormant psychotic behaviour of the person. Theoretically, steroids could have the same affect as the emotional trauma in certain individuals. But this occurs very very infrequently as I understand it.
Another point that struck me is that,with modern PCT and the depth of knowledge surrounding steroids these days, it would seem unlucky for a clued up user experiencing the “classic” symptoms of using steroids. From reports that I have read, it is only those who are genetically susceptible to the side effects (ie natural hormone imbalance) that are most at risk. Of course there are those users who do not understand what they are doing and it would seem that it is these people who give the practice of using steroids a bad name. I find this quite sad, as if people understood more about steroids, there would not be this great stigma about those who use (some sites I visited who were complete bollocks in my mind, even though I am neutral in the steroid use affair) ie they are all psychopaths. This leads to my biggest fear about young adults using steroids. Due to this stigma, youngsters (including my rugby players who are using) often only do research on the web into steroids and not go to a doctor or specialist for information and advice. It is all well and good reading an article on steroids, but when a specialist can outline the pro’s and cons to your face and with the added fact that they are qualified to advise you, unlike half the articles on the web, it makes me angry that these specialist are avoided. Also, if the young adult or even anyone, is still willing to take steroids, at least the doctor can monitor blood levels etc and will also be able to diagnose any problems early. However, due to those ignorant people who say all steroid user are “cheaters” and “psychos”, allot of people would rather take steroids without telling a professional because of embarrassment and take un-needed risks, rather than be labeled as a “roid head” by the ignorant ones. If this stigma could be dispelled, the world of steroids would become allot more safe.
So in conclusion to my rant, I have done the following and am going to do:
Made those boys in my school using steroids go to the doctor to get all the tests done and made sure they go for regular check-ups to make sure nothing is going wrong
(BTW if anyone who is reading this and thinking why not make them stop, I am not going to do this as what these lads need is support and not someone giving them a lecture and achieving nothing except losing their trust)
2)Told a few of these ignorant web sites what I think of them…
3)Carry on my research.
Sorry about my the length of my post but hey, had allot to say ;).
I did some test cypionate about 10 years ago and I can relate to what you say about emotions and steroids altering them.
I was always an agry person. The test made my anger incredible. I would get extremely frustrated and agry over minutia. When I would have these angry episodes, I would remind myself I was taking something that may make me angry, and I wold try to calm down. Nonetheless, it was a notable difference to me.
Prior to ever using gear I had anger issues as well as impulse control issues. I started taking an SSRI before months before my first cycle. Whether on gear or not my issues are for the most part resolved with this SSRI [Lexapro]. If someone is prone to outbursts and they are maginfied by being on gear perhaps their problem is not the gear itself but a preceding condition in the brain. That was the case for me.
[quote]sapasion wrote:
Prior to ever using gear I had anger issues as well as impulse control issues. I started taking an SSRI before months before my first cycle. Whether on gear or not my issues are for the most part resolved with this SSRI [Lexapro]. If someone is prone to outbursts and they are maginfied by being on gear perhaps their problem is not the gear itself but a preceding condition in the brain. That was the case for me.[/quote]
Hey sapasion, Can you elaborate on this a little? What is SSRI? What does it stand for? What is Lexapro?
I may be able to benefit from something like this. As i am older now and more calm, I am still an angry bastard.
SSRI - Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor. Lexapro is the brand name of the one I use.
The idea is the brain is a bucket and the water inside the bucket is your serotoin. My bucket has a hole in it where serotoin leaks out effecting my mood. Lexapro reduces the size of the hole.
Technically it is an anti-depression drug but I have noticed a lengthening of my short fuse. My lows aren’t nearly as low now. Although arguably my highs aren’t quite as high either. One side effect is an increased difficultly sexually climaxing [notice I didn’t say this was a negative side effect ;)]
Talk to your doctor about it as he or she will have better technically data for you.
Good Luck