In The Market for a Radar Detector

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[quote]hardgnr wrote:
Don’t speed. Its not that fucking hard.[/quote]

ya, this is the argument we are taking to the state reps where I live.

They say dont speed, we say its infringing on our personal liberties by being a nanny police state, blah blah blah.
its ok though historically Aus has never allowed their people any freedoms anyways so I understand where you are coming from.

in my state detectors are also illegal, but http://www.radarbusters.com/ I have the 9500i it works great but it also is a bit out of your price range
the 8500 should be ok for what you want its right around 300 but theres tons of models and reviews here
be sure to check your local laws as well and if they are illegal dont get caught with one then you are looking at more than just a ticket.

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[quote]rock27 wrote:
son of liars wrote:
hardgnr wrote:
Don’t speed. Its not that fucking hard.

You’d be surprised. It’s safe to say that driving the speed limit in some cases is a liability, and is (imo) more dangerous than speeding. But thanks for that fantastic, well thought out post you provided.

Please explain your above post.

Are you actually impying that driving at the speed limit say for sake of argument is 100Kph is MORE dangerous than driving at 120+
??Don’t get sarcastic when someone gives you a good piece of advice, even when it’s not what you wanted to hear.

You’re above post is plain retarded, pure and simple.[/quote]

No, it’s not. I just drove across the country, and I can count on both of my hands how many times I passed someone (and I stayed at around 10 mph above the posted speed limit) like they were standing still and we would have gotten into a SERIOUS accident while doing 80 mph on the highway.

I almost rear ended a SMART car (the ones that are the size of a fucking shoebox) while I was doing 85 and he had to be doing 55, tops, in the left lane, cresting a hill on an interstate.

When there is a difference in speed greater than 10 or so MPH between the flow of traffic, and you, it’s fucking dangerous.

OP, I have the escort 8500 and it’s “saved” me countless times.

That said, a radar detector is NOT a cloak. Cops have laser, which unless you have a laser jammer, you’re already fucked. Plus, they have other ways of finding your speed.

I found two articles online that I paid ten bucks for, and they were written by a former state trooper on how to get the most out of your detector. I forget where I found them, though, and my hard drive was fucked six ways to Sunday last month, otherwise I’d just send them to you.

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I have the Passport Escort 8500 x50 and it works GREAT! It has saved me hundreds of times. It has great range (I’ve picked up cops several miles away), and it reacts quickly. It picks up all the bands including laser and POP. It’s well worth it.

Compared to the Valentine, it’s about $100 cheaper and does just as well. The only real difference with the Valentine is that it has the directional arrows to tell you if the radar is in front of you, behind you or from the side. For me, that’s not worth the $100 difference.

Friends have had the Valentine, and when on group drives, it has performed identically to my Passport 8500 x50.

They have a newer version that can download software online to stay up-to-date on the latest technology:

I’ll get this one in the future.

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[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
rock27 wrote:
son of liars wrote:
hardgnr wrote:
Don’t speed. Its not that fucking hard.

You’d be surprised. It’s safe to say that driving the speed limit in some cases is a liability, and is (imo) more dangerous than speeding. But thanks for that fantastic, well thought out post you provided.

Please explain your above post.

Are you actually impying that driving at the speed limit say for sake of argument is 100Kph is MORE dangerous than driving at 120+
??Don’t get sarcastic when someone gives you a good piece of advice, even when it’s not what you wanted to hear.

You’re above post is plain retarded, pure and simple.

No, it’s not. I just drove across the country, and I can count on both of my hands how many times I passed someone (and I stayed at around 10 mph above the posted speed limit) like they were standing still and we would have gotten into a SERIOUS accident while doing 80 mph on the highway.

I almost rear ended a SMART car (the ones that are the size of a fucking shoebox) while I was doing 85 and he had to be doing 55, tops, in the left lane, cresting a hill on an interstate.

When there is a difference in speed greater than 10 or so MPH between the flow of traffic, and you, it’s fucking dangerous.

OP, I have the escort 8500 and it’s “saved” me countless times.

That said, a radar detector is NOT a cloak. Cops have laser, which unless you have a laser jammer, you’re already fucked. Plus, they have other ways of finding your speed.

I found two articles online that I paid ten bucks for, and they were written by a former state trooper on how to get the most out of your detector. I forget where I found them, though, and my hard drive was fucked six ways to Sunday last month, otherwise I’d just send them to you.[/quote]

So you passed a few ppl out. Speed limits are there for a reason. Otherwise some ppl would drive at crazy speeds like on the autobahns, and some would be driving about as slow as a funeral. IMO it just makes the situation more dangerous.
In my opinion these jammers are a bad idea full-stop. Now I’m assuming the vast majority of ppl on these forums use them within reason, i.e. to go 5 or 10miles per hour over the speed limit. But not everyone is as mature. You put one of these things in the hand of some dumbass kid’s hand and you’re basically giving him a license to kill.

Sorry if I’m rambling on and forgive me OP if I hi-jacked this thread, but that’s just my thoughts.
Any-ways these only block a certain type of radar, not all, as one of the posters already mentioned, so I wouldn’t rely on them too much.

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[quote]rock27 wrote:
son of liars wrote:
hardgnr wrote:
Don’t speed. Its not that fucking hard.

You’d be surprised. It’s safe to say that driving the speed limit in some cases is a liability, and is (imo) more dangerous than speeding. But thanks for that fantastic, well thought out post you provided.

Please explain your above post.

Are you actually impying that driving at the speed limit say for sake of argument is 100Kph is MORE dangerous than driving at 120+
??Don’t get sarcastic when someone gives you a good piece of advice, even when it’s not what you wanted to hear.
You’re above post is plain retarded, pure and simple.[/quote]

The posters following the one you wrote explains it all. You might live out in butt fuck who-knows-where, but Atlanta traffic is no joke, and keeping with the pace of traffic IS safer than staying at the exact speed limit. Reason being is that when you are dealing with 5-8 lanes of merging traffic, that one token asshole going 55 while everyone is crusing at 75 has a damn good chance of getting rear-ended.

How retarded was that one?

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While I agree it is safer to go with the flow of traffic, my general opinion is that most people speed excessively whether there is traffic or not.

Speeding doesn’t cause accidents in itself though, drivers do, and it is important to adjust to traffic conditions. Still, very rarely do I find I absolutely HAVE to speed.

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Waste of money. I would save that money for something more useful.

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[quote]Heavy-Duty wrote:
Waste of money. I would save that money for something more useful.[/quote]

Like a “future speeding ticket” fund?

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[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
Heavy-Duty wrote:
Waste of money. I would save that money for something more useful.

Like a “future speeding ticket” fund?[/quote]

How about just following the law and do the posted speed limit. Being a law abiding citizen will make the need for a radar detector not needed and a “future speeding ticket” fund an idiotic idea.

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[quote]Heavy-Duty wrote:
rrjc5488 wrote:
Heavy-Duty wrote:
Waste of money. I would save that money for something more useful.

Like a “future speeding ticket” fund?

How about just following the law and do the posted speed limit. Being a law abiding citizen will make the need for a radar detector not needed and a “future speeding ticket” fund an idiotic idea.
[/quote]

You drive exactly 30 mph around town? You don’t go over 65 on the highway, ever? Give me a break.

I’ve had friends get tickets for doing 5mph over. Like Push said earlier, tickets generate revenue. If a cop wants to give you a ticket, he or she most likely can find something to give you one for.

Having a radar detector gives us a slight edge to help avoid tickets.

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[quote]Nate Dogg wrote:
I have the Passport Escort 8500 x50 and it works GREAT! It has saved me hundreds of times. It has great range (I’ve picked up cops several miles away), and it reacts quickly. It picks up all the bands including laser and POP. It’s well worth it.

Compared to the Valentine, it’s about $100 cheaper and does just as well. The only real difference with the Valentine is that it has the directional arrows to tell you if the radar is in front of you, behind you or from the side. For me, that’s not worth the $100 difference.

Friends have had the Valentine, and when on group drives, it has performed identically to my Passport 8500 x50.

They have a newer version that can download software online to stay up-to-date on the latest technology:

I’ll get this one in the future.[/quote]
Nate its the same one I have and it works wonderfully

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[quote]Heavy-Duty wrote:
rrjc5488 wrote:
Heavy-Duty wrote:
Waste of money. I would save that money for something more useful.

Like a “future speeding ticket” fund?

How about just following the law and do the posted speed limit. Being a law abiding citizen will make the need for a radar detector not needed and a “future speeding ticket” fund an idiotic idea.
[/quote]

oh and you can also have a ticket for impeding the flow of traffic even though you are a law abiding person
think about that one.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
rock27 wrote:
…Any-ways these only block a certain type of radar, not all, as one of the posters already mentioned, so I wouldn’t rely on them too much.

Sorry, friend. The aforementioned devices are detectors not jammers or blockers.[/quote]

Well spotted, was hoping nobody would spot it!

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[quote]son of liars wrote:
rock27 wrote:
son of liars wrote:
hardgnr wrote:
Don’t speed. Its not that fucking hard.

You’d be surprised. It’s safe to say that driving the speed limit in some cases is a liability, and is (imo) more dangerous than speeding. But thanks for that fantastic, well thought out post you provided.

Please explain your above post.

Are you actually impying that driving at the speed limit say for sake of argument is 100Kph is MORE dangerous than driving at 120+
??Don’t get sarcastic when someone gives you a good piece of advice, even when it’s not what you wanted to hear.
You’re above post is plain retarded, pure and simple.

The posters following the one you wrote explains it all. You might live out in butt fuck who-knows-where, but Atlanta traffic is no joke, and keeping with the pace of traffic IS safer than staying at the exact speed limit. Reason being is that when you are dealing with 5-8 lanes of merging traffic, that one token asshole going 55 while everyone is crusing at 75 has a damn good chance of getting rear-ended.

How retarded was that one?

[/quote]

Sorry don’t recall saying I lived in butt-fuck who knows where but there is fuckin traffic everywhere. And you’re solution to the problem is to drive faster when a piece of electronics tells you to?
That one token is not the danger - if everybody else did the same there would not be as many accidents.

And how retarded was that one - yes the ppl doing 75 were quite the bunch of retards. Just because the majority like to go over the speed limit doesn’t make what they’re doing any more acceptable.

Now I’ve been known to speed a bit, but when I do so I realise that I am doing so at my own risk. What I don’t do is begin speeding when a flashing light tells me it’s ok to do so.
If I am caught I will have to pay the fine and take the points(points system here in Ireland where a number of road infraction will put you off the road).

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[quote]MaddyD wrote:
Heavy-Duty wrote:
rrjc5488 wrote:
Heavy-Duty wrote:
Waste of money. I would save that money for something more useful.

Like a “future speeding ticket” fund?

How about just following the law and do the posted speed limit. Being a law abiding citizen will make the need for a radar detector not needed and a “future speeding ticket” fund an idiotic idea.

oh and you can also have a ticket for impeding the flow of traffic even though you are a law abiding person
think about that one.[/quote]

Yes if everyone is going 75 in a 60 area, then of course you’ve got to match your speed with that of the rest of the traffic sharing the road.
However, it’s not clever to just go over the speed limit all the time.
Some ppl here seem as if they are just pre-programmed to add 20mph to the speed limit and just always do that.

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[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
Heavy-Duty wrote:
rrjc5488 wrote:
Heavy-Duty wrote:
Waste of money. I would save that money for something more useful.

Like a “future speeding ticket” fund?

How about just following the law and do the posted speed limit. Being a law abiding citizen will make the need for a radar detector not needed and a “future speeding ticket” fund an idiotic idea.

You drive exactly 30 mph around town? You don’t go over 65 on the highway, ever? Give me a break.

I’ve had friends get tickets for doing 5mph over. Like Push said earlier, tickets generate revenue. If a cop wants to give you a ticket, he or she most likely can find something to give you one for.

Having a radar detector gives us a slight edge to help avoid tickets.[/quote]

Don’t even bother arguing about it. There will always be some law-abiding citizen that thinks they are right because you shouldn’t speed or that they never speed or whatever (but they probably break the law in some other area but preach about how you should drive the speed limit!).

The reality is that most of us do speed, and we are still safe drivers (probably safer than most who don’t speed) since we are more aware of our surroundings and being able to see potential problems ahead of time since we are focused on the road and driving and not mindlessly driving or talking or texting on our cell phones or being distracted by food, the radio and whatever else.

Also, there have been numerous studies showing that higher speeds are not necessarily linked to more deaths or whatever. In fact, a recent study compared the difference in deaths between highways with a 55mph speed limit and a 70mph speed limit. Guess what? The higher speeds were safer and resulted in less crashes.

We could also discuss the autobahn and how people drive in excess of 100mph and there is even less crashes, death, etc.

In fact, after spending time in Europe last summer, I think every American needs to learn how to drive the way they do in most European countries. It may seem “crazy” to most of us, but the “aggressive” way they drive is actually the best driving I’ve seen.

But most Americans would piss their pants being in that type of driving situation. It sure would eliminate most of the retards on the roads around here!

Get a Passport Escort 8500 x50 or the new 9500xi. It’ll be money well spent.

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[quote]Nate Dogg wrote:
rrjc5488 wrote:
Heavy-Duty wrote:
rrjc5488 wrote:
Heavy-Duty wrote:
Waste of money. I would save that money for something more useful.

Like a “future speeding ticket” fund?

How about just following the law and do the posted speed limit. Being a law abiding citizen will make the need for a radar detector not needed and a “future speeding ticket” fund an idiotic idea.

You drive exactly 30 mph around town? You don’t go over 65 on the highway, ever? Give me a break.

I’ve had friends get tickets for doing 5mph over. Like Push said earlier, tickets generate revenue. If a cop wants to give you a ticket, he or she most likely can find something to give you one for.

Having a radar detector gives us a slight edge to help avoid tickets.

Don’t even bother arguing about it. There will always be some law-abiding citizen that thinks they are right because you shouldn’t speed or that they never speed or whatever (but they probably break the law in some other area but preach about how you should drive the speed limit!).

The reality is that most of us do speed, and we are still safe drivers (probably safer than most who don’t speed) since we are more aware of our surroundings and being able to see potential problems ahead of time since we are focused on the road and driving and not mindlessly driving or talking or texting on our cell phones or being distracted by food, the radio and whatever else.

Also, there have been numerous studies showing that higher speeds are not necessarily linked to more deaths or whatever. In fact, a recent study compared the difference in deaths between highways with a 55mph speed limit and a 70mph speed limit. Guess what? The higher speeds were safer and resulted in less crashes.

We could also discuss the autobahn and how people drive in excess of 100mph and there is even less crashes, death, etc.

In fact, after spending time in Europe last summer, I think every American needs to learn how to drive the way they do in most European countries. It may seem “crazy” to most of us, but the “aggressive” way they drive is actually the best driving I’ve seen.

But most Americans would piss their pants being in that type of driving situation. It sure would eliminate most of the retards on the roads around here!

Get a Passport Escort 8500 x50 or the new 9500xi. It’ll be money well spent.

[/quote]

Not trying to start an argument. I never said I was a law-abiding citizen, and I already said that i do speed.

However using these speed trap detectors will give some ppl a false sense of security, providing them with the little voice in their ear alerting them that they will not get caught so they might aswell punch it. Now I’m not saying ppl here do that but you have to realise that not all ppl are like the majority.

I really don’t know where distractions such as mobile phones and such come into the issue but if you are going to bring them into the debate, then what about these pieces of detection equipment which have to be some sort of distraction if you need to pay attention to them for the alert of an upcoming speed trap?

You mentioned a study between a 55 and 70 mph speed limit. Of course the 70 mph area will be safer because that is the LIMIT. Ppl will be less likely to break the speed limit in a 70 zone than a 55 zone.

And with the autobahn the reason for the less number of crashes is the significant improvement of their road systems than most places in the world.

I agree with you that the more aggresive approach to driving makes ppl a little less lax about driving and forces them to concentrate more on their driving, and not making mistakes.