[quote]jsbrook wrote:
katzenjammer wrote:
forlife wrote:
Clearly, the large majority disagree with you given the vehemence for or against Obama being our next president. If he was just more of the same people would stay home instead of voting in record numbers.
They’re voting in record numbers because the MSM has infected them with BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome); because their lives are empty and they need a “leader” to redeem them; because thanks to postmodern educational methods and indoctrination, they don’t understand the past and the meaning of liberty.
In other words, they’re voting for Obama out of a mixture of ignorance & emptiness.
Not so sure about the ‘derangement’ part. It’s because Bush has been such a horrendous president and incompetent manager. Anything that seems diametrically opposed will get a lot of support.
But the ignorance part is correct. People that are hugely excited about an Obama presidency really don’t understand what it will mean.[/quote]
BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome) = Bush is blamed for bad outcomes that he had no hand in, or had no control over, or are imagined. Meanwhile, his achievements are routinely ignored.
Bush wasn’t perfect by any means; but the lies and the anger that have proliferated around his presidency can only be explained as a syndrome.
the count isn’t in yet so don’t be smug about this being a record turn out for Obama. The record turn out in 2004 favored Bush.
the majority of people are not intelligent enough to know the difference between rhetoric and actual meaningful argument; it comes down to which candidate can dupe the most people to vote for him.
winning by a simple majority does not make one’s ideas correct; elections aren’t even about ideas – see #2.
None of which has anything to do with my point, which was that the large majority of people believe that this election represents a revolutionary change rather than just being more of the same as you claim.
To be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best day and night to make you like everybody else means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can fight and never stop fighting.?e e cummings[/quote]
I hear you. I have been blessed with 2-3 teachers who’ve known and encouraged my political views.
On an average day I own about 5+ liberals in the middle of a class.
[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
RebornTN wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
katzenjammer wrote:
Too bad our teachers and educational systems have been drilling the opposite into the heads of our children for the past 30 years.
Thank you department of education. I am a victim of that system so there is still hope.
It’s scary some of the shit that the teachers are teaching us in school. My extended family is quite educated though, and so I have been able to see opposing ideal’s and come to my own conclusions.
Conclusion One:
The schools textbooks know shit.
The schools teachers know even less.
Good for you Reborn - it feels a bit like tilting against windmills sometimes, I know, but you really do have to take a stand; and it won’t come without some cost.
You might want to check out ISI ( http://isi.org/ ) if you haven’t already. They can be very helpful in many ways. PM me if you want details. There are some very good people there.
Cheers,
~katz
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ISI is great. They’ve put a bunch of Solzhenitsyn stuff out recently.
I think it’s safe to say the majority of Americans now oppose the war. And if they oppose the war, where lives are lost, and billions of dollars a month vanish into a black hole, it’s going to have a profound effect on the Republican party.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
I think it’s safe to say the majority of Americans now oppose the war. And if they oppose the war, where lives are lost, and billions of dollars a month vanish into a black hole, it’s going to have a profound effect on the Republican party.[/quote]
It wasn’t even one of the top issues in the campaign.
The reality doesn’t match the rhetoric you and GDollar are speaking.
Iraq is drawing to a close. Everyone knows this. TO make an issue of it is moot at this point.