Canada is pretty cool, bc anyways. Culturally its like the USA’s little brother though.
OP if I were you I would just go to college and sit out the recession in Greece. When you graduate think about Canada or Australia. Both countries are doing well. Forget about the USA, while it’s a nice place and very multicultural, it’s in recession (although better than Europe) and the job situation is poor there at the moment.
Who knows what things will be like in 4 years time when you graduate.
Major problems under the surface in Australia. Chronic housing shortage is likely to effect the economy:
Treasurer Wayne Swan has actually frozen most the super of Australian workers.
I just don’t think it’s the best place for a new start. A small population confined mostly to the coastal cities - infrastructure problems, government mismanagement of the economy, budget blowouts, labour disputes. Canada/US is the way to go.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Major problems under the surface in Australia. Chronic housing shortage is likely to effect the economy:
Treasurer Wayne Swan has actually frozen most the super of Australian workers.
I just don’t think it’s the best place for a new start. A small population confined mostly to the coastal cities - infrastructure problems, government mismanagement of the economy, budget blowouts, labour disputes. Canada/US is the way to go.[/quote]
Americans love Australia. Whenever we get sick of our county’s shit, we think ‘What’s the farthest place away that I could go where I wouldn’t have to learn a new language or adapt to a new culture, and have a sexy accent to pick up exotic hotties?’
Answer is always Australia.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Aw bullshit, things look great for in Oz:
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Upbeat article from six months ago. Here’s one from two days ago I came across:
'the United States may finally be in an elusive pattern known as the virtuous cycle - an escalating loop of robust job growth, healthier spending and higher demand.
The nation added 200,000 jobs in December in a burst of hiring that drove the unemployment rate down two ticks to 8.5 percent, its lowest in almost three years, and led economists to conclude that the improvement in the job market might just last.’
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9S3LCL01.htm
18 months old. Also, that’s an employment site too.
That article is 18 months old. Here’s one from yesterday that’s more realistic:
The Premier is blaming a rush of jobseekers to the Sunshine State for dole queues remaining stubbornly long despite billions of dollars of investment in the mining and gas boom.
Net interstate migration to the Sunshine State peaked in 2002 at 37,400 people - 719 more people arriving here each week than leaving.
But that stampede across the border is now a dawdle. The latest available ABS data, for the year to the end of June 2011, shows that while net interstate migration to Queensland was still higher than other states, it fell to 7200 - only 138 people a week.
That was 25 per cent down on the previous year - and the lowest level since the early 1980s.
Maybe we could agree that Canada is the best option?
LOL what the fuck are you talking about SexMachine. I understand you “spinning” Australia so this dude doesn’t set a foot in your country but you can’t be serious in saying Australia is second fiddle to Canada and the US (I’d say they are all equal when you weigh each ones perks).
Australia (and New Zealand to a lesser extent) was largely unharmed during the GFC starting in 2008. They were one of the few countries to actually be on a positive side of major economic statistics when the rest of the world was wondering what the fuck was going on.
Australia is thriving from an economic perspective, thanks in large part to their strong resource industries (particularly mining) and service sector. Average wages are some of the highest in the developed world and the unemployment rate is (comparatively) very low.
You’re always going to find cynical newspaper articles no matter how good things are. In fact, that’s actually when minor news bits get sugar-coated and then highlighted because newspapers need material to get people to read their shit, no real surprise.
In terms of living quality (economics ofcourse playing a major part) Australia is one of the best if not the best place to live as universally agreed by people who print those rankings.
I think you’ll find a lot of people agree with me when I say Aussie is mint as. Most of the cities are multicultural havens, chicks are hot, people are laid back and the beaches are awesome.
EDIT: I know you didn’t really dismiss Australia so I should probably add that every country has problems “under the surface.” I’m saying the positive things about the country outweigh all that mostly speculative and minor news.
Its not overly easy to get into australia if u cant and want to come here go to new zealand live there for two years then come here.
I live in melbourne I lived pretty much all over aus and to me its the best place in aus to live
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
LOL what the fuck are you talking about SexMachine. I understand you “spinning” Australia so this dude doesn’t set a foot in your country but you can’t be serious in saying Australia is second fiddle to Canada and the US (I’d say they are all equal when you weigh each ones perks).
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Well that’s not what I was doing. The truth is the states and federal government are in Labor’s/Labor-Greens’ hands and they have been seriously mismanaging the economy. And there is literally no infrastructure in place to accomodate growth. We don’t even have enough water for our population. I may have been a bit tongue in cheek but I was being honest.
In Aus that was due to Howard and Costello. Labor spent the surplus and wracked up considerable debt. They wasted the surplus of the Howard years. We would be flying now if it weren’t for Labor.
Exactly. Then along comes Kevin f@!king Rudd - Australia’s own little hope and change pimp who shits on you and tells you it’s fudge.
Depends how you measure that. Wages in the mining sector are high but Labor-Greens are trying to bring in a mining industry tax that will ruin the whole industry. It’s an attempt to balance their woeful budget and implement the Greens/left Labor wealth redistribution program.
Well I don’t know much about national politics over there (complicated by the fact you have state politics to boot) but I’ve heard about the carbon tax and mining tax. Apparently the truckies are complaining about the carbon tax, which is fair enough but the miners being up in arms about their tax seems a bit arrogant.
The mining industry has been raking in billions of dollars and wages seem inflated anyway. A tax on the industry shouldn’t harm hiring if miners are willing to take a little bit of a pay drop (and I understand how they endanger their lives everyday going into tunnels miles under the earth). I mean if the gov’t uses that revenue to improve national infrastructure it can’t be too bad can it?
Yeah, with those hippie, carbon-taxin’, budget-blowin’, pinko communist morons in charge it’s no wonder none of Australia’s cities made it onto any of these lists:
Oh wait…
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Well I don’t know much about national politics over there (complicated by the fact you have state politics to boot) but I’ve heard about the carbon tax and mining tax. Apparently the truckies are complaining about the carbon tax, which is fair enough but the miners being up in arms about their tax seems a bit arrogant. The mining industry has been raking in billions of dollars and wages seem inflated anyway. A tax on the industry shouldn’t harm hiring if miners are willing to take a little bit of a pay drop (and I understand how they endanger their lives everyday going into tunnels miles under the earth). I mean if the gov’t uses that revenue to improve national infrastructure it can’t be too bad can it?[/quote]
It’s a radical wealth re-distribution tax:
“The tax base will be unreasonably narrow, being focused on 320 taxpayers in two resource areas: coal and iron ore. It will be a volatile tax subject to huge fluctuations depending on international commodity prices (making it unsuitable to fund ongoing budget commitments your government has made such as reducing company tax and funding increased superannuation).”
A considerable reason for the mining boom has been the increased value of metals which has enabled previously closed mines and new mines to open - they are operating on a relatively narrow margin. Imposing this tax will force many of these mines to close. The companies will just close them because they can’t make a profit anymore. And as I said before, the whole purpose of this tax is to balance a budget that Labor turned from a surplus to a massive deficit. They have a history of doing this. See attached picture for recent history.
Anyway this is not PWI so I will leave it there.
[quote]Cimmerian wrote:
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Based on a survey.
[quote]Cimmerian wrote:
Why does nobody want this guy in their country?
I’d be glad for Australia to do a swap with Greece. Niksamaras can move here and Greece can have theBird.[/quote]
Sounds fair. You should both take him up on this.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]Cimmerian wrote:
Why does nobody want this guy in their country?
I’d be glad for Australia to do a swap with Greece. Niksamaras can move here and Greece can have theBird.[/quote]
Sounds fair. You should both take him up on this.[/quote]
Won’t work. The government here swaps on an 800/4000 ratio - i.e. we give 800 illegal migrants to Malaysia and they send us another 4000.
So however much I’d like to say goodbye to the bird I would not be prepared to accept half a dozen Niksamaras’s in return.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]Cimmerian wrote:
Why does nobody want this guy in their country?
I’d be glad for Australia to do a swap with Greece. Niksamaras can move here and Greece can have theBird.[/quote]
Sounds fair. You should both take him up on this.[/quote]
Won’t work. The government here swaps on an 800/4000 ratio - i.e. we give 800 illegal migrants to Malaysia and they send us another 4000.
So however much I’d like to say goodbye to the bird I would not be prepared to accept half a dozen Niksamaras’s in return.[/quote]
Why not? I am funny, outgoing and handsome!
[quote]niksamaras wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]Cimmerian wrote:
Why does nobody want this guy in their country?
I’d be glad for Australia to do a swap with Greece. Niksamaras can move here and Greece can have theBird.[/quote]
Sounds fair. You should both take him up on this.[/quote]
Won’t work. The government here swaps on an 800/4000 ratio - i.e. we give 800 illegal migrants to Malaysia and they send us another 4000.
So however much I’d like to say goodbye to the bird I would not be prepared to accept half a dozen Niksamaras’s in return.[/quote]
Why not? I am funny, outgoing and handsome! [/quote]
What your mom tells you doesn’t count.