@luidox33 I cannot give you such answer, you need to perform a sleep study
About tree fiddy but definitely not two fiddy
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Oh and my bp is generally 118/70 almost all the time since being on TRT. gawd o hope that’s a good thing.
Last 3 weeks I’ve noticed my resting/sleeping hr will decrease to 55-58-60 at a certain point. According to the fitbit. This is not typical for me. I’m just making sure I’m not ignoring something.
What is the general consensus on needing thyroid medication? My T4 is constantly in the low borderline range .9 while my TSH is always in the middle. 2.2
@luidox33
Google stopthethyroidmadness and go to their website. It’s got a lot of great info in a way that’s easy to make sense of it. Especially why taking a T4/T3 combo can be beneficial
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So your saying those meds are bad
I was attempting to tell you to go to that website and read about exactly what you’re asking so you can understand it as no one here is a thyroid expert. Successful I was not
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You don’t use tsh as a guide. Don’t use t4 either. Look at free t3. It’s all about symptoms friend. If no ft3 look at t4. No t4 or t3 better get them tested. Tsh over 1.5 usually needs work.
If you take trt and free t is at a good level for 3-4 months, and symptoms don’t resolve, then you look at thyroid.
When supplementing remember that If free t3 is not in the top 10% of the range you can definitely supplement. That’s with symptoms. Don’t do it if you don’t have issues.
Guys who have ft3 at 3 or 4…1 out of 5 and still have issues. Resolve their Fatigue ; depression, anxiety When raised to 4.5 or higher they did their issues.
Now if fatigue is so bad that you can’t focus , wake up, fall asleep midday . I would
Start trt and thyroid.
Finally you don’t take synthetic or t4 only. It’s a waste of time. your body isn’t converting t4 to t3 properly and that’s the reason you have issues in the first place. Don’t drive yourself crazy giving the body t4 only.
Anyways: instead of beating your thyroid against the wall; give your body t4 and t3 using armor thyroid or a dessicated compounded version. Pork or beef (porcine/bovine).
Does that help?
Yes a guide would be great for him.
That helps. TSH is 2.06 My biggest symptom is Joint ach and not loosing weight despite strict diet and workouts. I get focus issues sometimes even while on TRT.
Fingers and extremities feel cold during winter and hot during summer. Wife tells me my hands are extreme either way all the time. I sweat in moderate heat more so than anyone else around me. I get cold easier in the same respect.
Resting heart rate while sleeping hits 55. Don’t know if that’s an issue.
Irritability happens often still even while on TRT.
My free T is often above levels. I get blood done the day before next injection. I’m always at around TT 820 FT 182.
That’s 150mg a week at 0.3cc e3d Estrodol is consistently between 45-56
Right now I’m on 65mg iron daily. I have been getting a nice energy boost from that every morning.
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Don’t over think it. your symptoms are sounding like thyroid. If trt doesn’t fix your problems the next step is to always try thyroid meds. Get on armor thyroid and run a trial of 1grain am and 1grain pm. Or go get free t3 tested and wait for results and start armour thyroid. If it’s lower than midrange start 2 grains. If it’s close to 4 out of 5 take 1.
This works just get a doc who understands thyroid and isn’t going to say your 2 is in range. Tell him to treat symptoms not ranges.
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Vitamin C is one of those vitamins responsible for iron absorption.
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Iv done all that. I’ll try again. Been a while. Tempted to push MRI just to get a full snapshot going forward for future comparison.
The biggest problem with that is my doctor does the classic “your fine, your in range” BS. Obviously the solution is fine another doc. Can’t afford defy yet. Though that might change soon. Right now I pay $1000 A month for EXTREMELY good health insurance but my work recently offered an HMO that’s just as good at only $300 a month. The offset alone makes defy much more cheaper than what I pay now.
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Yup it’s shit. You need to find a doc that cares and isn’t an idiot. I would look on this forum and ask men if they Tmc an send you the name of a good doc in your area.
End of day insurance will not cover your thyroid meds unless bellow low range . You are stuck in the dick care system .
So, my HDL in 7 months has Only budged 1 point. 34-35. In 7 months I’ve been weight lifting every week, eating meat and veggies and Iv been on trt starting 7 months ago.
The only number besides T that’s not changed in that time is T4 and TSH.
T4 - .95-.98
TSH - 1.92 - 2.06
Could thyroid be holding my HDL down?
Current docs seem to always be reluctant With ordering T3 for some reason.
There is no “try”, Yoda… LOL.
@hardartery
Hahaha
Absolutely failed
What absolutely failed @luidox33?