I'm Scared to Death of TRT

Its water and some muscle. Pre trt 195. Now 206. :confused:

You wouldn’t have immediate death of sleep apnea starting TRT. takes time for symptom manifestation. Starting trt is pretty safe. Lots happen in one month and cessation after a month is effortless because your natural T is still on.

Clomid won’t feel great until about week 3-4.

For me, Campbell gets too absolute. His idea of “optimal” is blanketed on everyone. If you have a better understanding of T then such statements can be received with a more balanced eye.

What’s your daily diet? If you watched the video you’ll now be familiar with the “ anti-inflammatory” diet. Working out won’t loose the weight. Its 75% diet

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Clomid is not going to increase FREE T into the 20s . Or can it?

Otherwise

It does. Not nearly as good as TRT.

While on clomid, on the last 3 months I cleaned up my diet, cardio every day and my T rose 180 points. Cant stress enough how important diet is. These aren’t magic pills. T is the cement foundation but everything built on top is up to you.

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What do you feel by “tou wont feel good on clomid until week 3-4”?

I feel more shitty everry time I take a new pill, although my dosage is really low.

My diet is ok, balanced macros - veggies, saturated fat, mostly quality carbs and enough protein. Problem is my appetite is never ending and I eat way too much.

Let me guess, so far your having night sweats? Hot flashes?? It will pass. When T is elevated it has to reach MANY receptors in your body. Every organ has T receptors. Its like water absorbed by a large sponge.

You can actually eat a lot more clean food than crappy food and not suffer from it. I hit this too. I eat strict m-f and shitty food saterday-Sunday. Gives me something to look forward too.

I got great returns in lbs from 45 min elliptical or treadmill daily.

When your starting T theory especially with clomid your body is juggling estrogen too. Takes some time to rebalance. Estrogen will keep you fat until it subsided.

Try 1/4 pill every other day

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Well I take 1/4 every other day, did not try more :slight_smile:

Sides I feel - moodiness, more irritability and veerry sleepy and lethargic.

I also take dim for estrogen and boron for shbg concern from the clomid

This doctor proscribed? I would only start with clomid and go from there. Too difficult to diagnose anything with so many meds at the same time. Clomid is estrogen FYI. Both estrogen and SHBG can be managed through clomid dose.

You could have crashed e2 taking DIMM. Where was e2 when you started.

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It is unlikely that you have crashed estrogen. Not impossible, but unlikely. Clomid is also NOT estrogen, it is sort of the exact opposite of estrogen. I sounds like you do not tolerate Clomid and should stop using it.

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Clomid is also known as clomiphene citrate. … Clomid works by making the body think that your estrogen levels are lower than they are, which causes the pituitary gland to increase secretion of follicle stimulating hormone, or FSH, and luteinizing hormone, or LH.

So if clomid somehow lowers Estrogen we shouldn’t take DIMM.

I thought dr crissler once said it was half estrogen.

It does not lower estrogen, it will almost surely raise it. It blocks the receptor to give your body a false E2 reading which triggers production from the testes. It raises BOTH levels at the same time and mostly bypasses the AI properties so that an AI doesn’t help much.

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Ita was not high in fact - around 20. But is it possible one week DIM to crash it? I thought its action is very mild and more of converting bad eatrogens to good

20 is already low. I would not touch DIMM unless symptoms and labs match up. Even then a high reading does not mean it’s bad.

Well in Tuesday I will go to the lab and make estrogen only, it is 10 dollars luckily :slight_smile:
Do you really believe I could have crashed my e2 further with DIM?

DIM lowers E2, but how much depends on the individual as much as anything.

Some have and I am not going to jump to conclusion. I will jsut say get tested and only take pills or supplements when the situation calls for it. Labs and symptoms should match up.

Have high e2! Well don’t take anything if no symptoms. Hope that helps.

It is estrogen.

How is your ejaculation after you started TRT?

I heard the sperm is decreased from TRT and for me personally if I do not take out enough seamen the orgasm is not good

the affect T has on the prostate is incredible. Orgasms are WAY better. Loads are bigger.